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  2. Hi Uwe & Dave, Thanks very much!
  3. Hello , Im looking to go to the max show and if anybody is going that has any attributed ribbon bars for sale please bring them to the show Thanks John
  4. You have forgot the one I posted, Another navy airship badge is located at the Zeppelin museum at Zeppelinheim. Kind regards Alex
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  6. Could you please tell me, how to recognize a Zimmermann made cross and what time of farbrication exactly means early? Thanks in advance!
  7. If he served at Hebburn and Jarrow then he would not have been a member of the Sunderland Borough Police. Dave.
  8. Acquired at auction.Does it appear original? Thanks for looking.
  9. Montenegro - Bravery Award

    What the striking difference between two medals, especially in the thickness.
  10. While most of the tipstaves we are used to seeing tend to have a bulbous handles example such as this are also well known. It is; however, fairly unusual to see three at once. I agree with collector in the USA that there are definitely no issues with the first two. I think the problem with the third piece is that overall it is not a pretty example and the proportions do not feel right. That said on balance I would say it is genuine as the handle appears to be integral to the piece and you don't normally fine fakers making up such elaborate metal work. The real issue with faked tipstaves is engraved decoration such as the Bow Street example mentioned earlier. This is not the first time this piece has been offered at auction over the past few years. I have looked closely at it and while wanting it to be genuine just don't know. I wouldn't try and put anyone off buying it as you will find no one who can say for certain if it is genuine or fake.
  11. My mistake, should read "Sunderland Borough Police" have amended the post
  12. Early tipstaves

    Hello Great Dane. My sense is that the tipstaff on the left and the tipstaff in the middle, are authentic. They are likely Victorian. They are rather pedestrian, and would not have great value, being the sort of little tipstaff that the working man office holder would keep in a pocket. It's nice to see that the tipstaff on the left has what appears to be the original purple (perhaps originally red, now discolored) velvet in the crown (meant to mimic the Royal Crown's "Cap of Maintenance"). The tipstaff to the right is a bit more involved, and looks to not have the wear pattern I would expect to see on a 150 year old tipstaff. Having said that, it is perhaps just in an excellent state of preservation. I think it's likely to be authentic, but I am just a tad bit less certain of this one. It does, however, look like it's perhaps missing its finial top (the "Maltese Cross"). You would have to send a photo that shows the top clearly for us to be able to determine that with certainty. I think the tipstaff on the right is probably also right, and would have had a slightly higher value than its brethren to the left, were it not for the missing finial. If the finial is not missing, then perhaps it would have a slightly higher value. I hope this is of some help to you, and please feel free to ask additional questions if you have them.
  13. Thanks for this. It's a handsome trinket. And thanks to Dave for the "how-to-wear" illustration. Hugh
  14. Not my area, but didn't the flamethrowers et al already have some kind of distinctive insignia? For the gearheads back then nothing impressed like an airship, a U-boat or a bloody great lumbering tank. I think size won. Big vehicle, big badge. Luca Brazzi and the gas troops weren't sexy enuff, I guess.
  15. I can see the logic of the Luftschiffer one, all the other fliers had a badge.... I am still at a loss to the Tank one.... You have Sturmbataillon guys, Infantrymen, Combat pioniers, Tunnelers, Flamethrower men, Infantry assualt gunners, Minenwerfer guys, gas troops..... ALL of whom objectively did more..... than the tank guys, who were way to few, way too late and their list of actual battlefield achievments are so short I have not been able to find it.... and who gets the sexy badge..... envelope please..... and the winner is..... "The Tank guys!" Its a bit like saying "The Godfather deserves an oscar for the best actor!" then ignoring Brando, Pacino, Caan, Duvall, John Cazale etc. etc.... and giving it to the guy who played Luca Brasi...... I agree tanks are sexy.... but I am still of the opinion that the arm of service to accomplished the least... got the great badge for doing it.... It remains a WTF?? issue for me ;-) But I am glad to see some discussion!! :-)
  16. Alex, for interest I added up all the identified GODETs in the two books (Baldes and Pandis) that came out, and the few other badges I know about. There are a few more GODET Zeppelins out there flying about than I thought...16 fullsize + Prinzen. What was that 3rd badge you say is in a Museum? Thanks. 10 x GODET Navy Zeppelin fullsize badges: 1. “LZ-103” engraved on nose; sold Wallis & Wallis; Pandis p. 261 2. marked GODET-WERNER BERLIN 938; sold Carsten Zeige; Pandis 263 3. “935” on pin; coll. German family; Pandis 263 4. Museum Friedrichshafen; Pandis 264 5. “JGuS” on pin; Baldes 594 6. Screwback; German family; Baldes 595 7. “Hans Masius” screwback; Baldes 596 8. Screwback converted to pin; John Bell; Baldes 597 9. Cliche; German family; Pandis 272 10. Fergus Gillett 1 x GODET Army Zeppelin fullsize badge 1. “Arthur Wurbs” cliche; sold Kai Winkler; Baldes 575, Pandis 272 4 x GODET Navy Zeppelin Prinzen badges 1. John Bell; Pandis 265 2. marked “20643”; Aeronauticum Nordholz; Baldes 609, Pandis 268 3. “Walther Fischer”; Georg Bewersdorf; Baldes 608, Pandis 270 4. “Wolff-Vorbeck”; Georg Bewersdorf; Baldes 607, Pandis 271 1 x GODET Army Zeppelin Prinzen badge 1. “Hermann Rotzoll”; John Bell; Pandis 268
  17. Chris, I agree with Alex, biased as I am! Your parallel is the Zeppelin Commemorative badge, which came after the war, did have some qualification criteria, went to an arm that didn't achieve much but came into its own later (strategic bombing), and probably only had a lobby of a few score officers (with only several hundred badges subsequently purchased). As Hans von Schiller wrote in 1920 about the production of this new badge: The idea had already emerged in 1916, as many comrades from the Airship branch might recall...why the proposal got no further, is unknown to me....After the Revolution, when the [Airship] Branch was dissolved by order of the enemy, the idea was taken up again by Korv.-Kap. Sommerfeld to create a Commemorative Badge for the many missions over the enemy. So it sounds like it was not a priority during the war, and a tchotchke afterward to salve some wounded pride! After that, like the Tanker, it became a commercial venture for any jeweller who wished to stock and retail them for a limited market. As for approving such a badge--not much else for the Luftsreitkraefte to do in 1920 but arrange for the sale of their Zeppelins overseas as per Versailles. If you were lucky enough to win a commemorative Zeppelin Becher there was no money for postage so come and get it!!
  18. Different medal

    Hello Gard, About your medal "MEDAL CARLISTA requetés for LOYALTY IN THE CRUSADE", it´s not for being wounded. It was awarded like that to veterans of this group during the spanish civil war. Awarded to veterans from the civil war, but after war, in 1964!! Being sold in Spain for about 85-135 euros. Have a look at these medals, all from the Carlism movement. http://www.coleccionesmilitares.com/medallas/texto/carlistas.htm Best regards, Dolfek.
  19. German medal bar with Bulgarian Bravery 4 class 2 grd and mini chain
  20. That's not a bad thought, Duncan! Well done. There are some very odd ranks in the modern IA, as there were in the old Imperial organization and even though they tend to be in English, puzzling them out can be a real challenge, especially when one adds in all the 'para'-police/army units and civvy employees who seem to qualify for gongs too!
  21. You mention that your man served in the "Sunderland County Police". Insofar as your research is concerned it is worth bearing in mind that such a police force has never existed. If he served at Hebburn and Jarrow, he would have been a member of the Durham County Constabulary. I hope this is helpful. Dave.
  22. Welcome to the forum. Very nice!!! It is not often that you see tinnies from the Tirol. Thank you for showing them
  23. Austrian uniforms

    Thanks for your answer !
  24. Well written, it's pleasant as always to read the texts of yours.
  25. Indeed. Being home to many of the major and minor North Sea and Baltic Sea ports, both the Grand Duchies of Oldenburg and Mecklenburg-Schwerin and the three Free and Hanseatic Cities made a lot of awards to naval personnel. III./IR 162 is merely the most direct connection between Lübeck and Oldenburg. Particular award combinations can sometimes strongly hint at certain units, but there are simply way too many variables. For every III./IR 162 recipient of the Lübeck and Oldenburg awards, there was probably some Lübeck native serving in IR 91, DR 19 or FAR 62 who also got both. And then the navy guys. And then the staff types. And then the guys who changed units. Or a Lübecker in 1.GDR, since the Grand Duke of Oldenburg was à la suite that regiment.
  26. The Prussian : perhaps the best traduction of durchzug to english is across or crossed .
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