Chris Boonzaier Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Hi, I think this is Leib Rgt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Danner Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 There was a Karl Laber, born 16 May 1882, in the ILR. He was promoted Leutnant der Reserve on 5 July 1916. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted March 31, 2012 Author Share Posted March 31, 2012 Magic, thanks, thats a keeper then :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccj Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 Is that a 1916 Bavarian Litewka in feldgraue? It looks for me with the one pocket fron and the buttons Hi, I think this is Leib Rgt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 Charles, It is a Bavarian officer's Litewka. These came in the same colors as the officer's prewar colored Waffenrocks, so they could be light blue, dark blue, steel green or gray green. They were never supposed to be in field gray. They were ordered replaced with the introduction of the new uniforms in (Bavaria) 1916. From that point, Bavarian officers were to wear the Kleiner Rock in its place. Chip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccj Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 So this can't be the man they say. A man made LdR in 1916 wouldn't have a prewar tunic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted December 3, 2012 Author Share Posted December 3, 2012 Hi, is there any chance a newly minted Officer recycled a tunic previously worn by someone else? Best Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccj Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 I doubt it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccj Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 It may be a field grey tunic cut like the old style Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 The Bavarians wore these by regulation up until the Kleiner Rock was introduced to them in 1916. And who's to say that they didn't continue to wear them, especially for studio photos, where they might have preferred their old distinctive jacket. Chip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted December 21, 2012 Author Share Posted December 21, 2012 I really think we underestimate how much "old clothing" was worn. I dont think in the war that a lot of people hung clothes up for the duration. As clothes were "worn out" before replaced, and I have photos of men in Ersatz battalions using prewar Blue tunics with large patches on the shoulders where they were worn through, I am guessing it was probably the exception to "retire" clothing before the end of the war. I do have a few "closet stuffers" from men killed in the war, but assume if he had a brother or cousin in the army these would probably have had a good chance of being used again. This especially true for lower ranks and lower ranking officers. Best Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccj Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Personally, I imagine all sorts of tunics were worn off duty or behind the lines. Prussians are often seen in Uberrocks and we see photos of Bavarian Litewka being worn. I don't know how long the pre-war colored type were worn or how often an officer had a field grey version made but I would imagine it was more often than photos suggest. We can hope someone finds a nice Bavarian officers personal photo album showing the litewkas in wear. The french had all sorts of tunic styles made during the transition from per-war to horizon blue as many offices assumed the regs would keep the same style but in Horizon Blue. I would imagine the same may have happened in 1915-16 when regulations were changing in Prussia and the Bavarians were making their own regs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccj Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 I have seen many examples of this pattern in photos in what appears to be field grey. Interestingly by Bavrian and Prussian officers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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