Uncategorised Anhang 2 zur H.Dv. 1a Pocket book for Winter war

[Jock Auld]

Guys,

Found this rather interesting appendix to the Infantry vorschrift today about fighting and more importantly surviving in winter conditions, there are too many sketches to show so here are just a few, it is 372 pages long.

Jock

[Bernhard H.Holst]

Hello Jock.

Interesting information. After blundering into the campaign against the Soviet Union and exposing the soldiers to a terrible winter the army appeared to have learned some bitter lessons in winter warfare. So in August 1942 these instructions were issued. They seem on the surface to be sound instructions but I am not one to judge that in any way not having been exposed to that kind of warfare.

Bernhard H. Holst

Edited July 23, 2014 by Bernhard H.Holst

[Jock Auld]

Bernhard,

I think is like with most Armies the information is there, you just have to relearn the lessons. Bit like us with the convoy drills against the U-boats, and then the US having to discover the same on entry into the war when it should already have been known? I assume alot of what is in there is from WW1 when engaged onthe Russian front then?

Jock

[Bernhard H.Holst]

Bernhard,

I think is like with most Armies the information is there, you just have to relearn the lessons. Bit like us with the convoy drills against the U-boats, and then the US having to discover the same on entry into the war when it should already have been known? I assume alot of what is in there is from WW1 when engaged onthe Russian front then?

Jock

Hello Jock.

Possibly a lot was recalled from WW I campaigns in the East. Apart from the army the airforce also had to learn in a hurry.

BTW: I always had the belief that the Israeli Defense Force was always up to date because of its nearly permanent involvement in military action. The present events in the Gaza operation seems to indicate of their being up against some unforeseen obstacles and very regrettably high losses.

Bernhard H. Holst

[Jock Auld]

Bernhard,

Thats the problem with wars, the opposition never follow the script, bloody anoying, all that planning for nothing!

Losses on any side these days are a shame, you would think that given the last century we may have evolved a bit, ironic I know it is since I have 23 years service but I suppose it is only with age you get a bit wiser. I am now a confirmed pacifist, I distrust all of the politicians that squander our young soldiers lives just because it is harder to not do it. LMF from them all. Chinless twats!

Jock

[Bernhard H.Holst]

Bernhard,

Thats the problem with wars, the opposition never follow the script, bloody anoying, all that planning for nothing!

Losses on any side these days are a shame, you would think that given the last century we may have evolved a bit, ironic I know it is since I have 23 years service but I suppose it is only with age you get a bit wiser. I am now a confirmed pacifist, I distrust all of the politicians that squander our young soldiers lives just because it is harder to not do it. LMF from them all. Chinless twats!

Jock

Hello Jock.

I hear you loud and clear.

Also it is said that anyway the best of plans usually do not survive the first day of battle.

Bernhard H. Holst