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#41 Chris Clark

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Posted 12 February 2007 - 07:26

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#42 Scowen

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Posted 13 February 2007 - 16:42

I have been in communication with Chris regading the badge he has posted above & have asked for better images of the obverse for I fear that it could be a fake.

The "S" Kolonial pin has been faked for over 30 years now is still being made today.

He are a few points that I have observed. On originals there is usually (but not always) a very slight serif on the tips of the "S", but as I just pointed out, annoyingly not always. However, they did always use a rounder oval to surround the "S" than there seems to be on the one above, only the fakes have the narrow oval.

On the obverse of the badge in the top right corner of the red enamel, next to the top star, originals ALWAYS have a pattern of 9 pebbles/dots. Fakes only have 4 (this is why I've asked for a better image as I can't quite see on Chris' badge). The final clue is the gap between the outer edge of the Swastika & the inner edge of the surrounding diamond. There is ALWAYS a clear & distinct gap between them with white enamel in it, they never run into each other due to the white enamel between them.

Both John Temple-West's badge at the start of the thread & Roberts in post #10 show classic original "S" badges.

Bye the way, the points mentioned above are only for the "S" marked badges, other makers have their own peculiarities.

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#43 BURGERHAUS

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Posted 13 February 2007 - 18:45

Don If you like, you can move mine next to Chris' to show the differences. Good research! Robert

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Posted 14 February 2007 - 00:42

I agree good research by Don cheers.gif

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Posted 14 February 2007 - 15:23

gents, Here is my reverse circle S. Robert

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#46 Chris Clark

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Posted 14 February 2007 - 17:30

as soon as i can get mine out of the frame i will take some better pics straight on and not at an angle. on the looks mine is indeed a dud . which surprises me as came with a large group of which all the other stuff was 100% correct. one good thing its not the expensive end of collecting.
on the white enamel around the swaz it indeed does not go all the way round but there is a hair line mark where the enamel would of run into if it wasnt so thin.

one for the hammer when i take it out

Edited by Chris Clark, 14 February 2007 - 17:43 .


#47 Scowen

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Posted 14 February 2007 - 17:49

Thank you Gentlemen.

Here is a comparison between a fake bought from a reproduction regalia specialist for a couple of pounds & JTW's original.

Note the difference in pebbling, especially the top right corner of this area. Also the gap between the outer edge of the Swastika & inner edge of the surrounding diamond.

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#48 Scowen

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Posted 14 February 2007 - 17:54

Reverse. Note the wider, rounder oval.

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#49 Scowen

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Posted 14 February 2007 - 17:58

Here's a comparison using a clearer mark from another pin. The description I used of a serif is probably wrong. The ends of the S on the originals are clipped virtically giving an appearence of a serif.

Again, Fake on the left, Original to the right.

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Posted 30 April 2007 - 08:33

Another manufacturer

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#51 Scowen

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Posted 30 April 2007 - 09:34

And very nice too........

You know this manufacturer plagues me, it was such a prolific producer of badges yet so far I've been unable to discover their name. I'm hoping that at some point a common trait will be spotted between a badge with their symbol on & one with an RZM number & then the mystery will be solved.

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#52 --dj--Joe

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Posted 30 April 2007 - 22:36

Discounting the unknowns for the moment.

Total conjecture, if it is NR, at a stretch of the imagination, it could be Nichols & Raimund a manufacturer of belt buckles, however the drawing I have seen of their mark in a circle is different, an N and R sharing the last upright stroke of the N. But we know that companys changed logos. unsure.gif

Or is it RN ? ohmy.gif

Don, you mention the posibility of it being FNR. Do you happen to have a clear close up of the mark?

Ah well, fun to research. I also hope something comes to light.

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#53 Scowen

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Posted 02 May 2007 - 17:42

Joe,

It's only conjecture that it's FNR & could just as easily be PNR, NR or RN. This is the best image I have at the moment, a little out of focus I'm afraid.

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#54 --dj--Joe

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Posted 02 May 2007 - 21:40

Thanks, Don, best close up I've seen. I am thinking after seeing your image, NR.

anmatcat.gif Now, which is the surname letter?

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Edited by --dj--Joe, 02 May 2007 - 22:49 .


#55 Andy H

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Posted 25 June 2007 - 22:13

This membership card appears to be to a Chimney sweep

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#56 jabnus

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Posted 07 September 2008 - 18:29

Here are two of me, variation of the amtstr?gerabzeichen.

They were mentioned at the beginning of the post, but the pictures disappeared over time perhaps?

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#57 jabnus

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Posted 07 September 2008 - 18:32

close up:



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#58 jabnus

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Posted 07 September 2008 - 18:36

and last. (yes the silver one is enamel damaged)


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Posted 07 February 2012 - 08:44

Sign on my friend. A brand В in a circle. The similar brand meets on fakes, but this sign the 100% original.

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 08:45

№2

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