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#1 Christian L

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Posted 18 May 2006 - 14:50

got this medal today, and i have to say, that i've never seen it before - can someone please help me with it!
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#2 Christian L

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Posted 18 May 2006 - 14:51

and the reverse:

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#3 Dave Danner

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Posted 18 May 2006 - 15:16

The Jubilee Medal for the 50th Anniversary of the Kaiser's reign (1848-1898), commonly called the "Signum Memoriae" medal. The good news is a replacement ribbon is easy: for military personnel it is all red. The civil version is slightly harder: half red/half white.

Edited by Dave Danner, 18 May 2006 - 15:16 .


#4 Christian L

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Posted 18 May 2006 - 15:34

thanks much for the really fast help dave!
best regards christian

#5 Kev in Deva

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Posted 15 July 2008 - 14:22

Hallo Gents, beer.gif

I require a little help here, I have always took it that this medal had two ribbons to denote

a Military award and a civil award, today I have heard the following,

that there are two distinct medals, the difference being in the Latin Script

and I am trying to get verification:-

Civil: FRANC.IOS.I.D.G.IMP.AVST.REX BOH.ETC.ET REX AP.HVNG

Military: FRANC.IOS.I.D.G.IMP.AVSTR.REX.BOH.ETC.AC.AP.REX.HVNG

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Edited by Kev in Deva, 15 July 2008 - 14:51 .


#6 Jef

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Posted 15 July 2008 - 18:17

Hello Dave and Kevin,
You are speaking about two possible ribbons for the Signum Memoriae: red and half red/half white. Is this ribbon a wrong one, or is it a Hongarian issue?
kind regards,
Jef
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#7 hipnos

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Posted 15 July 2008 - 18:33

QUOTE (Jef @ Jul 15 2008, 20:17 ) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hello Dave and Kevin,
You are speaking about two possible ribbons for the Signum Memoriae: red and half red/half white. Is this ribbon a wrong one, or is it a Hongarian issue?
kind regards,
Jef
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Yes it?s wrong, this is an Hungarian (modern) medal ribbon...
regards
Miguel

Edited by hipnos, 15 July 2008 - 18:35 .


#8 Ed_Haynes

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Posted 15 July 2008 - 18:39

Unfortunately, my copy of H&S is underneath (literally) a 2-meter stack of other books. Someone . . . rolleyes.gif



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Posted 15 July 2008 - 19:49

QUOTE (Kev in Deva @ Jul 15 2008, 14:22 ) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hallo Gents, beer.gif

I require a little help here, I have always took it that this medal had two ribbons to denote

a Military award and a civil award, today I have heard the following,

that there are two distinct medals, the difference being in the Latin Script

and I am trying to get verification:-

Civil: FRANC.IOS.I.D.G.IMP.AVST.REX BOH.ETC.ET REX AP.HVNG

Military: FRANC.IOS.I.D.G.IMP.AVSTR.REX.BOH.ETC.AC.AP.REX.HVNG

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Kev,

That's correct, two different inscriptions for Military and civilian awards.
The gold version with the eagle below the ribbon was awarded to high ranking officers with an extremly long military service.

Aufschriften:

"Milit?r" : FRANC.IOS.I.D.G.IMP.AVSTR.REX.BOH.ETC.AC.AP.REX.HVNG.
"Zivil" : FRANC.IOS.I.D.G.IMP.AVST.REX.BOH.ETC.ET.REX AP.HVNG.


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#10 Jef

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Posted 15 July 2008 - 20:02

QUOTE (hipnos @ Jul 15 2008, 20:33 ) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes it?s wrong, this is an Hungarian (modern) medal ribbon...
regards
Miguel




Thank you , Miguel
Jef


#11 Elmar Lang

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Posted 15 July 2008 - 20:45

Hello,

actually, I don't think that the difference between the Military and the Civil "Jubil?umsmedaille 1898" is in the inscription: these are just variations in the text, between different strikings, both from the award period. The difference is in the ribbon's colour (in any case, I'll check the regulations and the Michetschl?ger).

The medal posted from Jef has a wrong, hungarian ribbon.

It's necessary to remember that it existed a further 1898 Jubilee Medal: the one awarded to Officers with more than 50 years of active service: it was in gold; with a double-eagle shaped suspension.

Best wishes,

Enzo

Edited by Elmar Lang, 15 July 2008 - 20:46 .


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Posted 10 December 2011 - 17:50

..here a Bronze military jubilee commemorative medal 1898 in original case....

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Posted 10 December 2011 - 17:52

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#14 Christian Zulus

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Posted 05 March 2012 - 13:50

The SIGNUM MEMORIAE had been reinstituted some years ago by the late crown prince Otto von Habsburg himself on behalf of his 95th birthday:

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Back:
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My document:
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"Signum Memoriae" on my uniform of the Austrian Armed Forces (Österreichisches Bundesheer):
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#15 Teodor

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 21:12

here is one quite rare piece from my collection.... with plastic backside

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#16 Yankee

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 22:51

Dear Gentleman

Can anybody say if the medals struck in silver were for dignitaries, special puchases or simply fakes?
In books only described as being issued in bronze. Must be a mistake I suspect.

#17 Ulsterman

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 03:36

wow! The plastic back is rare!!!

Otto V. Hapsburg was a man I admire very much. His obit. in the Economist was brilliant:" always right and ahead of his time".

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 03:38

Oddly enough, I think this chap has the civil SM:

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Posted 02 January 2014 - 03:50

Here is my piece Jubiläums-Medaille 1898 für Zivilstaatsbedienstete

 

It has the inscription FRANC.IOS.I.D.G.IMP.AVST.REX.BOH.ETC.ET.REX AP.HVNG.

 

I wonder if we can get any new information regarding the different inscriptions as discussed in Posts #9 and #11 above...  From my totally unscientific and hasty research; several images of the "Zivil" and "Militär" medal online suggest that the inscriptions are in fact different for each class (rather than different producers).

 

 

I think I have two more of these medals some place...just need to find them... :rolleyes:



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Posted 02 January 2014 - 04:42


 

I wonder if we can get any new information regarding the different inscriptions as discussed in Posts #9 and #11 above...  From my totally unscientific and hasty research; several images of the "Zivil" and "Militär" medal online suggest that the inscriptions are in fact different for each class (rather than different producers).

 

More discussion in this other GMIC thread regarding the different inscriptions... SIGNVM MEMORIAE MEDALS

 

 

Seems that there are some references for the different inscriptions for the "Zivil" and "Militär" medal







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