Christian L Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 got this medal today, and i have to say, that i've never seen it before - can someone please help me with it!front: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian L Posted May 18, 2006 Author Share Posted May 18, 2006 and the reverse: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Danner Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 (edited) The Jubilee Medal for the 50th Anniversary of the Kaiser's reign (1848-1898), commonly called the "Signum Memoriae" medal. The good news is a replacement ribbon is easy: for military personnel it is all red. The civil version is slightly harder: half red/half white. Edited May 18, 2006 by Dave Danner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian L Posted May 18, 2006 Author Share Posted May 18, 2006 thanks much for the really fast help dave!best regards christian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev in Deva Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 (edited) Hallo Gents, I require a little help here, I have always took it that this medal had two ribbons to denotea Military award and a civil award, today I have heard the following,that there are two distinct medals, the difference being in the Latin Scriptand I am trying to get verification:-Civil: FRANC.IOS.I.D.G.IMP.AVST.REX BOH.ETC.ET REX AP.HVNGMilitary: FRANC.IOS.I.D.G.IMP.AVSTR.REX.BOH.ETC.AC.AP.REX.HVNGKevin in Deva. :beer: Edited July 15, 2008 by Kev in Deva Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jef Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 Hello Dave and Kevin, You are speaking about two possible ribbons for the Signum Memoriae: red and half red/half white. Is this ribbon a wrong one, or is it a Hongarian issue?kind regards,Jefhttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_07_2008/post-761-1216145710.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_07_2008/post-761-1216145731.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hipnos Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 (edited) Hello Dave and Kevin, You are speaking about two possible ribbons for the Signum Memoriae: red and half red/half white. Is this ribbon a wrong one, or is it a Hongarian issue?kind regards,Jefhttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_07_2008/post-761-1216145710.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_07_2008/post-761-1216145731.jpgYes it?s wrong, this is an Hungarian (modern) medal ribbon...regardsMiguel Edited July 15, 2008 by hipnos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 Unfortunately, my copy of H&S is underneath (literally) a 2-meter stack of other books. Someone . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 (edited) Hallo Gents, I require a little help here, I have always took it that this medal had two ribbons to denotea Military award and a civil award, today I have heard the following,that there are two distinct medals, the difference being in the Latin Scriptand I am trying to get verification:-Civil: FRANC.IOS.I.D.G.IMP.AVST.REX BOH.ETC.ET REX AP.HVNGMilitary: FRANC.IOS.I.D.G.IMP.AVSTR.REX.BOH.ETC.AC.AP.REX.HVNGKevin in Deva. Kev, That's correct, two different inscriptions for Military and civilian awards.The gold version with the eagle below the ribbon was awarded to high ranking officers with an extremly long military service.Aufschriften:"Milit?r" : FRANC.IOS.I.D.G.IMP.AVSTR.REX.BOH.ETC.AC.AP.REX.HVNG."Zivil" : FRANC.IOS.I.D.G.IMP.AVST.REX.BOH.ETC.ET.REX AP.HVNG.Regards Eddie Edited July 15, 2008 by Taz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jef Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 Yes it?s wrong, this is an Hungarian (modern) medal ribbon...regardsMiguelThank you , MiguelJef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmar Lang Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 (edited) Hello,actually, I don't think that the difference between the Military and the Civil "Jubil?umsmedaille 1898" is in the inscription: these are just variations in the text, between different strikings, both from the award period. The difference is in the ribbon's colour (in any case, I'll check the regulations and the Michetschl?ger).The medal posted from Jef has a wrong, hungarian ribbon.It's necessary to remember that it existed a further 1898 Jubilee Medal: the one awarded to Officers with more than 50 years of active service: it was in gold; with a double-eagle shaped suspension.Best wishes,Enzo Edited July 15, 2008 by Elmar Lang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iver Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 ..here a Bronze military jubilee commemorative medal 1898 in original case.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iver Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Zulus Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 The SIGNUM MEMORIAE had been reinstituted some years ago by the late crown prince Otto von Habsburg himself on behalf of his 95th birthday: Front: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1266954827074&set=a.1107886170457.18743.1025906913&type=3&permPage=1 Back: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1266954787073&set=a.1107886170457.18743.1025906913&type=3&permPage=1 My document: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1266954747072&set=a.1107886170457.18743.1025906913&type=3&permPage=1 "Signum Memoriae" on my uniform of the Austrian Armed Forces (Österreichisches Bundesheer): http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1346758022104&set=a.1107886170457.18743.1025906913&type=3&theater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teodor Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 here is one quite rare piece from my collection.... with plastic backside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankee Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Dear Gentleman Can anybody say if the medals struck in silver were for dignitaries, special puchases or simply fakes? In books only described as being issued in bronze. Must be a mistake I suspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulsterman Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 wow! The plastic back is rare!!! Otto V. Hapsburg was a man I admire very much. His obit. in the Economist was brilliant:" always right and ahead of his time". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulsterman Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Oddly enough, I think this chap has the civil SM: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishGunner Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Here is my piece Jubiläums-Medaille 1898 für Zivilstaatsbedienstete It has the inscription FRANC.IOS.I.D.G.IMP.AVST.REX.BOH.ETC.ET.REX AP.HVNG. I wonder if we can get any new information regarding the different inscriptions as discussed in Posts #9 and #11 above... From my totally unscientific and hasty research; several images of the "Zivil" and "Militär" medal online suggest that the inscriptions are in fact different for each class (rather than different producers). I think I have two more of these medals some place...just need to find them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishGunner Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 I wonder if we can get any new information regarding the different inscriptions as discussed in Posts #9 and #11 above... From my totally unscientific and hasty research; several images of the "Zivil" and "Militär" medal online suggest that the inscriptions are in fact different for each class (rather than different producers). More discussion in this other GMIC thread regarding the different inscriptions... SIGNVM MEMORIAE MEDALS Seems that there are some references for the different inscriptions for the "Zivil" and "Militär" medal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Materia Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 (edited) Since this is the latest topic about this medal. Both medals are literaly the same, I am yet to get the ones that have different text on them. Left has newer type of a ribbon with a clasp [red], while the right one has older style [pink]. Not only that, but the gold patina [I assume] is so pretty. Edited September 5, 2017 by Materia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farkas Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 On 15/07/2008 at 20:49, Taz said: Kev, That's correct, two different inscriptions for Military and civilian awards. The gold version with the eagle below the ribbon was awarded to high ranking officers with an extremly long military service. Aufschriften: "Milit?r" : FRANC.IOS.I.D.G.IMP.AVSTR.REX.BOH.ETC.AC.AP.REX.HVNG. "Zivil" : FRANC.IOS.I.D.G.IMP.AVST.REX.BOH.ETC.ET.REX AP.HVNG. Regards Eddie I'm just home from a friends 50th and I read this.... love it! Brilliant! Back with mine in coupla minutes unless I have a snooze..., tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farkas Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 Hi Gents all mine have an 'austr' ..., tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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