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Tony You are correct NZ SWB issue numbers do not equate to service numbers.

Greetings all This is either a strange fake (one that I have not seen before) or a 30's German made example?? Help please, It is from an old New Zealand collection. Thanks in advance.

Thanks chaps.

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Greetings all I would appreciate educated thoughts on this badge please as I am told the hook may be a replacement? These are the only two images I have at present. Thanks in advance

Thank you, much appreciated.

Fantastic! Many thanks. Any idea in where this div was deployed 1914-18?

Thanks, here is another image.

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Dog tag?

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I was lucky to aquire this group some time ago, I have always wondered about the 'supposed brass dogtag' is it a dog tag or something else and what is written on it? The group was a New Zealand WW1 veteran bringback. Enjoy the images and please help re the dogtag query. Thanks in advance.

Yeah good, those first images on WAF were the sellers photos, he had taken them with the bar upside down...I thought that was fairly obvious if you read the thread. I am done. 'Comms out' But Gentlemen, I have a question - What are we talking about here!?! In case no one has noticed, the bar presented here (post #2) is mounted in the frak, or reverse, form. The bar originally presented on the WAF in the thread titled "Imperial Group of Five - help please" (post #1) is mounted in the standard (left to right) form. That does it. :speechless:

Markus I am having doubts now, but it was so cheap and the New Zealand source has supplied me with loads on unmessed with vet bought back items. Anyway you are fairly convincing and I have an offer to trade it for a local vet bought back WW1 camo M16 helmet, so i may offload it. What value estimate do you place on the bar?

Well said, I apologise.

Carfeul Markus I may take you up on that! I have been to Germany a few times 1989, 95 and 98. I love it. Berlin is my favourite European city. I lived in london for 6 years and spent a lot of time travelling around Europe, Germany is a great place. Forget the church though, I am a non believer. All the best. Mike

Sorry to hurt your feelings Sweety.

What is a Spangenstueck?

Do you realise how insulting that comment is? Warning to all members: dont believe the story, that the KO4X shown above is an original, cross and swords were married some decades later. Collecting is not the same as religion, not a question of believing or not. Regards Markus

Good point, thanks.

Thank you for your intelligent, objective and well reasoned analysis, which is the reason I posted the group here. The previous forum had many comments that appeared to be quoted straight from textbooks, which I find boorish as nothing is black and white. And perhaps English not being a first language to some forum members can lead to a misunderstanding of subtle points. When the Jeweller said integral, he meant not added later or solderd etc etc, but I am not going to revisit that point. I see we have some of the same members of the other Forum present here, who appear to be a bit young? Perhaps wanting to be proven right all the time? Anyhow I am happy . At the end of the day the group was cheap as chips also Alll the best. Mike

Thanks, all I can say is what the Jeweller has told me after inspection, that it is not soldered on etc and part of the original medal, I dont know what else to say here? Also as stated this is an indirect vet purchase, NZ troops ended WW2 in Northern Italy (Trieste) Many crossed the border to Austria etc, I believe this is where the bar comes from. Anyway, interesting commenst, thanks.

Dont forget, I have said this is not an issued cross, bit a later private purchase example .Also I would like to hear from an expert in the field if possible.. How many firms made this cross? so why compare it to a single example? Common sense please.