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    Midwest USA
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    My military collectibles interest center mainly around;
    Imperial Germany -Tsingtau, China during WWI...Document/award groups.
    Imperial Germany -Pilots or Observers...Document/award groups.
    Imperial Germany -uncommon awards and identifiable medal bars/groups.
    Imperial Germany -Afrika or Pacific during WWI.
    Imperial Russian -Awards/medals and medal bars.

    " if you have something like this FOR SALE, please let me know!

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  1. I think this whole thread should be moved off the Germany: Imperial: The Orders, Decorations and Medals of The Imperial German States forum and put....somewhere else, like the Lounge.
  2. Claudius

    What is this medal

    Oh, I do think it would have value to a collector. The bronze and silver medals are scare, but they do show up from time to time in auction houses. For those who can't wait and want to buy it immediately, there is likely one for sale right now on a website for an unreasonable price. But at a realistic price I believe it would be almost irresistible to a collector of Imperial Korean medals. However, it would take further research to find out what that price would be.
  3. Apparently, none of my suppositions withstand these facts. Considering he served in a Bavarian unit and in another unit under the auspicious of the Grand Duke of Mecklenburg-Schwerin, perhaps Erbse considered the Schwarzburg cross to be a "foreign" award and put it justifiably at the end of the bar.
  4. I have another explanation. It is really a modified #2 and a little of #3. But above all I try to apply Occam's Razor to the question. Doctor Fritz Erbse was from Rudolstadt(Schwarzburg) but clearly during the war he was active and recognized by other States when he was awarded combatant class decorations from at least two other States as well as Prussia (EKII). However before the war he likely served in some capacity (as a Doctor?), in his native Rudolstadt, where I'm guessing he earned a NON-Combatant Schwarzburg Cross (3rd or 4th class). There may have been previous mountings of Dr. Erbse awards before 1934, however in 1934 he decided to mount them again, including the non-combatant Schwarzburg cross, in its correct position at the end of the bar. It was only after this mounting, that the Principality of Schwarzburg recognized their mistake in not awarding their fellow countryman and back awarded awarded him a COMBATANT Schwarzburg cross for his service in the war. Post war awards are not uncommon. The Schwarzburg Cross/swords supercedes the non-combatant one both would not be worn. And it's here where the 50+ year old doctor didn't want to "reorder" the whole bar and just requested that with Swords version be swapped in where the non-combatant version was.
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    Or a thin coating of Gun Oil. Its been used for decades by owners of very expensive guns to keep the metal parts from rusting.
  6. Wonderful bar Chris! Naval related....Doctor? He was certainly an Officer that should be found in the 1910 Rolls. But without cross-tabulating award rolls I'm not sure how you can find him. You would have to get lucky and "stumble" across the right candidate you was in China and with WWI service.
  7. Claudius

    Tsar Nicholas I. Medal

    Hallo Rohleder; I am an advocate for adding ribbons to medals. In my opinion, it completes them. I think it is a matter of taste on HOW you attach the ribbon -for display purposes. Most of the time, the Russian medals tend to have a unique fold to the ribbon. I attached a link to an imperfect example that I found on this forum, but there are a lot of photographed examples of soldiers wearing their medals this way. It doesn't look like you have a lot of ribbon to work with, so I can understand that you might not be able to duplicate this.
  8. That is a great period photo of that patch!
  9. That's what I wanted to believe too, but it seems awfully dark. More black than blue.
  10. Thoughts on ribbon #2? Is this the Bav. Free-City Jubilee 2nd Infantry 1932 medal?
  11. If this bar was made in that narrow period after the Anschluss but before the Hungary and Bulgaria was fully recognized as allied powers, then this would be a special bar. But I also don't like ribbon #2 -insofar as what I would expect to also be on the ribbon bar and what isn't on the ribbon bar.
  12. Claudius

    Unknown chinese/korean medals

    I don't recognize it either. But it reminds me a lot of other, well known fantasy pieces.