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  1. Hi, The (almost) unique thing about the Bavarians is that there is absolutely no prerequisite for the baravey medals... not the EK2, EK1, MVK that the prussians had. A guy could get the Golden Bravery medal as his first award in August 1914 and no further award until the end of the war. I am unaware of any silver and gold recipients, but if they exist I would love the group!!! :-) But given the fact that silver and gold were awarded from the outbreak of the war, with no prerequisite needed to get an award... I think we can assume the ratio must depend on a certain extent to what the commander put in for. Lets also not forget, the level of bravery is often not related to the size of the battle. A daring trench raid in a quiet sector could have just as much chance as a defensive action in the middle of the Somme. In some cases units in quiter sectors may have had more chance to have men put in for awards as there was less fog of war... Also a thought... one of the main reason the Leib Regiment introduced the "leiberring" was because the officers thought that the Leiber (and other hard charging regiments) were getting the same awards as regiments in Quiet zones, and that it had become rather difficult to judge someones contributions by the amount of medals they had... maybe this was some sour grapes because the 12 bRIR was ahead of them on the table. I remember reading something about Vietnam, where some units had a papermill, churning out medal applications, while in others it was done more conservatively
  2. I am going to go out on a limb here and say I think he made a copy error. The 12th bavarian RIR was in the 1st bavarian Reserve Div until mid late 1916, the Division average was just above 3000 KIA during the war, then to the 5th bavarian reserve Division where it joined the 7th and 10 bRIR... whose average was under 3000 KIA during the war... I dont have the history for the 12th bRIR, but I am guessing the 9688 number was the wounded? Lets assuming the Regiments within a division were rotated and unless the 12th was on everyones shtlist, they would have spend as much time in the line as anyone of the other regiments, under similar conditions... That also begs the question, the amounts of medals to other regiments it served with ... they must have had the same amount of time in the line... Unit -gold bravery - silver bravery - MMMJ 12th bRIR - 45 - 76 - 4 7th bRIR - 12 - 39 - 2 10 bRIR - 36 - 60 - 3 1 BRIR - 15 - 30 - 4 2 BRIR - 9 - 59 - 4 3 BRIR - 26 - 88 - 2 Another point that confuses me.... how can the proportions of gold:Silver medals vary so much.... of course, sometimes there is a spurt of bravery that will a single unit the edge over others in the "hero" category, but this over the whole period of the war... I think the proportions are interesting Gold:silver 12bRIR 1:1,6 7bRIR 1:3,25 10bRIR 1:1,6 1bRIR 1:2 2bRIR 1:6,55 3bRIR 1:3,38 Somehow I get the feeling that the numbers of awards were severly influenced by the willingness of a Regt Commander to send in a request for the award. Unless the members of a regiment were inheritasntly braver than those of another unit, the proportions Gold:silver should be similar?
  3. And now the silver..... 89 – b.I.L.R. 88 - b.R.I.R. 3, 76 - b.R.I.R. 12 69 – b.I.R. 1, 65 – b.I.R. 12 63 – Bavarian Jäger Regt (1. B.J.B. 22, 2.b.J.B. 21, 2. B.R.J.B. 20) 61 – b.I.R. 9, 60 - b.R.I.R. 10 59 – b.I.R. 15, b.R.I.R. 2 56 - b.R.I.R. 4 53 - b.R.I.R. 15, b.R.I.R. 52 50 – b.I.R. 18 46 – b.I.R. 2, 8, 11, b.R.I.R. 16, 44 - b.R.I.R. 11, 42 – b.I.R. 4, 41 – b.I.R. 10, 16 b.R.I.R. 18, 40 – b.I.R. 24 39 - b.R.I.R. 7, 38 - b.R.I.R. 8, 36 - b.R.I.R. 19 35 – b.I.R. 3, 20, b.R.I.R. 17, 34 – b.I.R. 25, 33 – b.I.R. 23, 31 – b.I.R. 17, b.R.I.R. 31 30- b.I.R. 13, 22, b.R.I.R. 1, 30, 29 – b.I.R. 19 28 - b.R.I.R. 22 27 - b.R.I.R. 13 26 – b.I.R. 7, 25 – b.I.R. 5, 22 – b.I.R. 22, b.J.B. 1 21 – b.J.B. 2 20 – b.R.J.B. 2 19 - b.R.I.R. 5 16 - b.R.I.R. 20 15 – b.I.R. 15, b.R.I.R. 14 12 – b.I.R. 6, 26, 11 – b.I.R. 27 10 – b.R.J.B. 1 9- b.I.R. 31 6 - b.I.R. 30, 32 5 - b.I.R. 28 2 - b.I.R. 29
  4. I counted up the number of Bavarian Bravery medal awards for each Active and reserve infantry regiment.... I must say, this astonished me. Of course, we need to take into account when some of the regiments were formed, but the 12 Reserve Infantry Regiments 1st place really astounded me.... 45 - b.R.I.R. 12 38 - b.I.L.R. 36 - b.R.I.R. 10, 11 30 – Bavarian Jäger Regt (1. b.J.B. 19, 2. b.J.B. 9, 2. b.R.J.B. 2) 26 - b.R.I.R. 3, 24 - b.R.I.R. 17 23 - b.I.R. 3, 18 20 – b.I.R. 19, 19 – b.J.Btl. 1 18 - b.R.I.R. 20 17 – b.I.R. 7, 13, b.R.I.R. 4, 8, 16 - b.I.R. 1, 2, 4, b.R.I.R. 14, 16, 21 15 – b.I.R. 6, 10, 11, 15, b.R.I.R. 1, 13, b.R.J.B. 1 14 – b.I.R. 8, 16, 21, 13 – b.I.R. 23, b.R.I.R. 22 12 – b.I.R. 9, b.R.I.R. 7, 11 – b.I.R. 5, 14, b.R.I.R. 6, 10 – b.I.R. 17, b.R.I.R. 15, 9 - b.R.I.R. 2, 19, b.J.Btl. 2 8 – b.I.R. 12, 20, 22, 7 - b.R.I.R. 18, 23 6 – b.I.R. 24, 25, b.R.I.R. 5, 5 – b.I.R. 26, 3 – b.I.R 28, 2 – b.R.J.B. 2 1 – b.I.R. 31 0 – b.I.R. 27, 29, 30, 32
  5. Yes indeed... but in general he was not a likeable guy... I was reading a Bio, when between the wars he was teaching at the same academy as Rommel, the feeling was that Rommel commanded by his personality, Schörner was respected because of his rank and reputation as a soldier, his personality not being something that warmed him to others. I have a few groups from WW2 where the guy was a combat stud in WW1, and a distastefull fellow in the 3rd Reich. Its a bit like OJ Simpson.... there was the football player /B Movie actor.... and there was the murderer.... a Before/After kinda deal....
  6. I have his Leib Regt honor ring and Militärpass as well ;-)
  7. OK, photo is dated April 1918 on the left Fw. Lt. Fritz Baier, recipient of the Austrian Golden Bravery medal. (11.9.1884) 2nd from left, Richard Steinhäuser, promoted Lt 11.4.1918 (11.11.1897) Schörner Right Bernhard Pechmann, EK1 on the 20th Marche 1918, buried by shellfire and reported as badly wounded and MIA at Kemmel on the 29th April 1918 (14.5.1898)
  8. To go with my tiny Schoerner collection..... Taken just before the Battle for Kemmel Schoerner Bernhard Freiherr v. Pechann Fähnrich Steinhäuser FwLt Baier Obviously Schoerner 2nd from the right, Pechmann extreme right methinks... not sure who is who on the left,,,, I guess the older one is the Fw Lt and the younger the Fähnrich
  9. For sure.... the EK Book? I had planned 2 years... used up over 10 before I reaslised it was not going to happen. I think the Bavarian one is more realistic... I am planning 6 months, hope to have it done in a year :-)
  10. I am guessing he was an NCO in Darmstadt (115th), was maybe wounded then sent to the School? Try a wound and assault badge, the wound badge loops will usually be closer together
  11. I think it is the Kriegsschule Wiener Neustadt? formerly the Austrian Kriegsschule.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theresian_Military_Academy
  12. Hi Guys, thanks for the comments, all valid points indeed... so here are my thoughts.... I shelved the EK book project because there are simply not enough EK doc collectors to justify the project. The work would have needed to include the Iron Crosses as well, but then it becomes a multi volume work and it is a thankless, impossible task to go it alone. So I decided to concentrate on the Bavarian Infantry (Active and reserve for now)... Logically I included the Bavarian Jäger (as light infantry) and that means half of the Alpenkorps infantry is already included... Although not Bavarian I think we can agree that few people would complain if the rest of the Alpenkorps Infantry and a couple of other Mountain troops were included as an annexe. I think it is dooable in one big volume, at a push maybe in 2 smaller volumes... I need to see what form it takes. The secret is finding a happy medium, that there is enough variety to attract people with different intrests, and meat on the bones to give those people enough of what they want in their field of intrest... so I hope for the following... Photographic: - No Matter how much we like history, it is the illustrations that make a buyer decide, so.... - A wide range of variation as far as Bavarian award document/Militärpass etc go - A good selection of Period Photos - An interesting but not overpowering/exhaustive selection of bavarian Militaria Text: - a support function - Basic info which helps a collector understand what he is seeing - an annex that provides the reader with an overview of the actions that the various divisions took part in - for selected documents some deeper research about the man and his part in the war. At the moment - I have a potential co-author who is very interested in the Bavarian angle, especially Alpenkorps - I am tossing up whether it is better to look for a publisher or Self Publish and maintain flexibility - I am looking for a volunteer who may be able to help with layout (if there is anyone out there... :-) That be my thoughts of the day.... -
  13. Nice indeed! I no longer have my WW2 references... that is the shoulderstrap?
  14. Wow.... that looks like a promising start indeed!!! lets see the rest of it! :-)
  15. super guys, thanks! I will get on it at ancestry.
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