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    1. Thanks to Auke De Vlieger, I have found out a bit more about this man. Nikifor Ivanovich Bobrov (b. 1905). Served as a political officer and commissar during the Great Patriotic War. Conscripted in 1928, attended political officer course in 1935. Participated in the invasion of Poland in 1939. Appointed commissar for a tank battalion in 1940. Contused during tank battle at Brody in June 1941, participated in defence of Moscow in Oct.-Dec. 1941, then slightly wounded at Staraya Russa in Sept. 1942. Attended advanced political officer course at the Stalin Academy in 1942-43. Retuned to the front in 1943 and served as deputy commander for political affairs for the 252nd Tank Regiment (1943-44), 84th Guards Tank Regiment (1944-45) and 165th Tank and Self-Propelled Gun Regiment (1945-47). Served in the campaigns to capture (or “liberate”, depending on your perspective) Budapest, Prague and Vienna, and was severely wounded during the latter. After victory over Germany he served in Mongolia during the short war against Japan. Postwar, Bobrov served in a variety of political positions: Party Commission Secretary for special units of the 6th Guards Tank Army, commissar of an automobile depot and a district ordnance warehouse, and battalion commissar. He retired from the army in Nov. 1953 and lived in Kiev, where he worked as a personnel inspector at a cardboard factory. His date of death is unknown. Bobrov’s awards included two Orders of the Red Star, the Order of the Patriotic War, two Orders of the Red Banner, the Order of Alexander Nevsky, the Order of Lenin, the medals for the Defence of Moscow, the Capture of Budapest, the Liberation of Prague, the Capture of Vienna, Victory over Germany, Victory over Japan and “The Defence of Mongolia” (this latter probably the Mongolian “We Won” medal).
    2. Thanks again, Jan. That is a very interesting thread. It makes me wonder, what was the criteria for the award of the "We Won" medal to Soviet personnel? Was it simply service within a defined area during a defined period, or was it restricted to officers or members of certain units? Does anyone know?
    3. Thank you, Jan (and thanks to your wife, too!). So nice to have a name to associate with this medal. He sounds Russian rather than Mongolian.
    4. Hello everyone, I just received an example of the Mongolian "We Won" medal (aka Victory over Japan medal, aka "We have Conquered" medal) with matching document. I'm pretty poor with cyrillic handwriting; can anyone translate the name of the recipient and the others who signed it? Are the latter names of any significance? Bill
    5. Bill

      I've taken the liberty of moving your query to the Mongolian section, on the possibly spurious grounds that the experts there are more likely to have answers than the rest of us!  I hope that's acceptable.  If not, I'll move it back, though there is a link on the 'Rest of the World' section as well.  Good luck with the query!

      Peter 

      1. Bill Harris

        Bill Harris

        Sounds good Peter. I wasn't sure where it should go: Soviet, rest of world, or wherever! Thanks for your assistance.

        Bill

      2. peter monahan

        peter monahan

        No problem.  hard to see wher to put that one but, as I say, maybe the 'Mongolians' will know more about the 'stans' than we Euro-centric types. ;)

      3. peter monahan

        peter monahan

        Still hoping for a flood of entries to the competition, ladies and gents.  The judges are waiting in eager anticipation for a chance to exercise their aesthetic judgement too.

        Anyone?

    6. Hi everyone, I note that Uzbekistan issued its medal Jasorat (Bravery) to that country's WW2 veterans en masse in 1994 as a commemoration of the Great Patriotic War. My understanding is that Uzbek veterans have since been forbidden to wear their Soviet WW2 medals. Does anyone know if other ex-Soviet republics (particularly the Central Asian -stans) have issued their own WW2 commemorative medals and, if so, have they similarly banned the wearing of Soviet medals? Bill
    7. Has anyone been in contact with Jeff lately? I have been trying to reach him for the last week and haven't had any luck... BH
    8. Most interesting, thanks Nick and Paul for the comments and images. BH
    9. Is anyone able to shed some light on the campaigns that this medal was issued for? The other medals for central Asian campaigns (Kokand, Khiva, Geok-Tepe) are all pretty specific regarding the operations they commemorate. I find this one more mysterious. The North West Frontier clasp for the British India General Service Medal of 1854 is an interesting parallel: a single award that covered numerous campaigns over a long period of time. There is, however, an easily accessible list of actions which merited the award of the clasp. Does any similar list exist for this Russian medal? Bill
    10. Are there any ordnance experts among us? This shell has been in my family for longer than anybody can remember. My grandmother was using it as a doorstop when she gave it to me. It had been painted black and had a label "Cartouche de Guerre 1914-1918" on it (her family were Francophone Ontarians until the last generation or so). I took off the label and stripped the paint, and was left with what you see here. The shell weighs about four kilos. It is about 7cm in diameter and 26 cm long. I've tried to find something like it online but everything I come up with has some small difference that makes me wonder exactly what I've got here. Any pointers?
    11. Yeah, I figured as much, but just dipping my toe into these waters for now, so it will probably suffice for the moment.
    12. спасибо, Paul. Good to see one that wraps up Imperial and Soviet in one volumne.
    13. Thanks! I saw that one and thought it looked good, but wanted to hear recommendations first.
    14. Good afternoon gents, Longtime lurker, first time poster here. Was toying with the idea of adding a few Imperial Russian medals to my collection, down the road; there's no rush to sink a load of money into what looks like a fairly expensive and fraught field. Before doing ANYTHING though, I wanted to peruse at least one good reference book, ideally one that would help in separating real from fake. I admit to knowing little at this point and would be woefully susceptible to filling my collection with expensive copies! Can anyone here recommend such a book? Would prefer something not too heavy on the $$ to start with, as this is a collecting area I am just beginning to explore. An English language book would be preferrable, as my по-русски is не хорошо.
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