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    1.  Hello together

       

      A few days ago i got this CDV of a prussian non-combatant.

      On the back also his name: I think it means "Westphal"  and a date Metz (Reichsland Alsace-Lorraine)

      Sept. 1904.

      I think it`s a higher prussian official as for example a Regierungs or Rechnungsrat.

      I had a look into the 1877 list and found for example a Westphal Albert

      Polizeikommissar in Straßburg (also in A-L.) with IC on non-combatant ribbon for 1870.

      On the CDV he`s wearing:

      -IC 1870 n/c. with oaks

      -??????? I believe an prussian GMVK, if i am right for 1866 no MEZ1 were awarded.

      -RAO4 (red eagle 4)

      -Kriegsdenkmünze 1870 for n./c. (war memorial medal for 1870 n./c.)

      -Kreuz für 1866 (cross for 1866 with combatant`s ribbon)

      -Centenarmedaille (Centenialmedal) 1897

       

      The problem is, that i cannot find a Westphal with GMVK or MEZ1.

      Or could it be another decoration on schwarz-weißen (black/white) "war ribbon" - as

      for example a RAO4 without X?

      Thanks for input /  help.

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      Just now, ixhs said:

       Hello together

       

      A few days ago i got this CDV of a prussian non-combatant.

      On the back also his name: I think it means "Westphal"  and a date Metz (Reichsland Alsace-Lorraine)

      Sept. 1904.

      I think it`s a higher prussian official as for example a Regierungs or Rechnungsrat.

      I had a look into the 1877 list and found for example a Westphal Albert

      Polizeikommissar in Straßburg (also in A-L.) with IC on non-combatant ribbon for 1870.

      On the CDV he`s wearing:

      -IC 1870 n/c. with "hanging" oaks; i believe it`s a IC Zweitstück/Spangenstück.

      -??????? I believe an prussian GMVK, if i am right for 1866 no MEZ1 were awarded.

      -RAO4 (red eagle 4)

      -Kriegsdenkmünze 1870 for n./c. (war memorial medal for 1870 n./c.)

      -Kreuz für 1866 (cross for 1866 with combatant`s ribbon)

      -Centenarmedaille (Centenialmedal) 1897

       

      The problem is, that i cannot find a Westphal with GMVK or MEZ1.

      Or could it be another decoration on schwarz-weißen (black/white) "war ribbon" - as

      for example a RAO4 without X?

      Thanks for input /  help.

      Image_00086.jpg

      Image_00087.jpg

       

      1 minute ago, ixhs said:

       Hello together

       

      A few days ago i got this CDV of a prussian non-combatant.

      On the back also his name: I think it means "Westphal"  and a date Metz (Reichsland Alsace-Lorraine)

      Sept. 1904.

      I think it`s a higher prussian official as for example a Regierungs or Rechnungsrat.

      I had a look into the 1877 list and found for example a Westphal Albert

      Polizeikommissar in Straßburg (also in A-L.) with IC on non-combatant ribbon for 1870.

      On the CDV he`s wearing:

      -IC 1870 n/c. with oaks

      -??????? I believe an prussian GMVK, if i am right for 1866 no MEZ1 were awarded.

      -RAO4 (red eagle 4)

      -Kriegsdenkmünze 1870 for n./c. (war memorial medal for 1870 n./c.)

      -Kreuz für 1866 (cross for 1866 with combatant`s ribbon)

      -Centenarmedaille (Centenialmedal) 1897

       

      The problem is, that i cannot find a Westphal with GMVK or MEZ1 also in RL or Hof und Staatshandbuch Preussen.

      Or could it be another decoration on schwarz-weißen (black/white) "war ribbon" - as

      for example a RAO4 without X?

      Thanks for input /  help.

      Image_00086.jpg

      Image_00087.jpg

       

       

    2. Hi together,

      First: I wish you a happy, healthy New Year 2021.

      Second:

      I found an old thread about GFM Model and his bar here in the forum.

      As some of you know, i also collect pics and postcards (photo cards) of military personel of the German Army.

      I few days ago,  i could get the shown card.  The seller didn`t know the name of that guy.

      Imo the card shows the later GFM Walter Model - here as a Hauptmann of the Reichswehr. If i am right, the AGFA sign on the back signs to me,

      that the photo was taken in around 1923.  I cannot produce a better result with my scanner.

      The shown bar shows a frosty framed EK (and bigger sized -  produced after 1918) as you can see on "his" bar of the old thread.  I am nearly sure to see the damage of the  6 o`clock crossarm of his MVO4X  - what i also can see is, the early thin swords of the MVO. - so my personal opinion is, that  Paul`s bar definitely belonged to him.  In the mid of 1930s (after the Wehrmacht was "founded") the LSC`s  were added to the shown bar.

      My pic was also shown in the book of the old thread.

      Best.

      Joe, Germany

       

       

       

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      3 minutes ago, ixhs said:

      Hi together,

      First: I wish you a happy, healthy New Year 2021.

      Second:

      I found an old thread about GFM Model and his bar here in the forum.

      As some of you know, i also collect pics and postcards (photo cards) of military personel of the German Army.

      I few days ago,  i could get the shown card.  The seller didn`t know the name of that guy.

      Imo the card shows the later GFM Walter Model - here as a Hauptmann of the Reichswehr. If i am right, the AGFA sign on the back signs to me,

      that the photo was taken in around 1923.  I cannot produce a better result with my scanner.

      The shown bar shows a frosty framed EK (and bigger sized -  produced after 1918) as you can see on "his" bar of the old thread.  I am nearly sure to see the damage of the  6 o`clock crossarm of his MVO4X  under my lens - what i also can see is, the early thin swords of the MVO. - so i think Paul`s bar definitely belonged to him.  In the mid of 1930s (after the Wehrmacht was "founded") the LSC`s  were added to the shown bar.

      My pic was also shown in the book of the old thread.

      Best.

      Joe, Germany

       

       

       

      zähringer 146.jpg

       

      zähringer 147.jpg

      5 minutes ago, ixhs said:

      Hi together,

      First: I wish you a happy, healthy New Year 2021.

      Second:

      I found an old thread about GFM Model and his bar here in the forum.

      As some of you know, i also collect pics and postcards (photo cards) of military personel of the German Army.

      I few days ago,  i could get the shown card.  The seller didn`t know the name of that guy.

      Imo the card shows the later GFM Walter Model - here as a Hauptmann of the Reichswehr. If i am right, the AGFA sign on the back signs to me,

      that the photo was taken in around 1923.  I cannot produce a better result with my scanner.

      The shown bar shows a frosty framed EK (and bigger sized -  produced after 1918) as you can see on "his" bar of the old thread.  I am nearly sure to see the damage of the  6 o`clock crossarm of his MVO4X  - what i also can see is, the early thin swords of the MVO. - so my personal opinion is, that  Paul`s bar definitely belonged to him.  In the mid of 1930s (after the Wehrmacht was "founded") the LSC`s  were added to the shown bar.

      My pic was also shown in the book of the old thread.

      Best.

      Joe, Germany

       

       

       

      zähringer 146.jpg

       

      zähringer 147.jpg

       

    3. Hi i cannot explain it in English and "Google Translator'" is not the best source.

      I will write my opinion in German:

      Meiner Meinung nach ist das die Feldspange eines Deutschen, der in osmanischen (türkischen)

      Diensten stand. Ich hatte eine vergleichbare Spange mit einem Urkundenkonvolut vor ein paar Jahren.

      Meiner Kenntnis nach wollte das Kaiserreich geeignetes Militärpersonal für das verbündete Osmanische

      Reich anwerben. Man lockte mit einem orientalischen Erlebnis und einer "Beförderung". So wurde

      z.B. aus einem deutschen Hauptmann ein osmanischer Major. Um die guten Beziehungen zum Sultan

      zu wahren, trugen die Deutschen (ob es alle waren, kann ich nicht sagen, bei meinem Konvolut war es aber so)

      die Feldspangen mit "osmanischen" Auszeichnungen zuerst und danach die anderen.

      Es schönes Stück.  Die Spange mit dem Friedrichsorden könnten identifizierbar sein; die Quellen sind aber nicht

      vollständig (also die, die ich habe)

      MFG

       

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