Ulsterman

Superb medal bar! 

To whom was that addressed? 

I believe what you have here is a transitional uniform photo of a Jungsta member around June, 1933-1934. During the year the Stahlhelm was “ coordinated” into the SA Reserve under Roehm, with senior members being retired or shuffled into party jobs or brought back into the Reichsheer etc. so as to politically neutralize the monarchist/ nationalist ( heavily armed) paramilitary, veterans’ association. Someone with more SA knowledge than I can fill you in on the 22/240 collar tab, but there was a year long shortage of brownshirts and other NSDAP party regalia (members had to usually buy their own kit) because of the forced coordination into NSDAP party organizations and because of the more than 1 million “ Maiblumen” new party members who rushed to join the NSDAP after power was consolidated in the May, 1933 elections. 

What this chap is wearing is a Jungsta uniform with SA insignia. 

That is waaay cool. Do you know what these people did? 

nice. where was he from? 

Great pair of medals and fantastic research.

On 25/07/2018 at 01:49, Sampo said:

Hello Sal,

I was just checking out older posts, and was wondering if you where able to identify this ribbon group?

Cheers

Sampo

Oh dear God. That is a magnificent ribbon bar. 

Good Luck. You know, I reckon a trip or two to the Bavarian Army Museum would be time well spent. You also could do what a lot of my colleagues are doing- write a shorter, (250 pages) book with a website adjacent for additional information or expansions if topucs- a sort of hybrid. Why you could even attach it to GMIC. 

Yes. This fakery  has been going on for a while-the technique is common for US Civil War CDVs and has been since the 1970s. I was shown Confederate CDV  fakes in 1975.

Bartko Rehrer was the guy who bought the old paper and reprinted photos. i have an original of a freikorps chap with a dog -and three slightly fuzzy copies of the same picture. I think Dave Danner gave me one of them. 

So an imperial personal gift? 

Thats probably the guy. The WW2 memorial database sometimes shows veterans. Those late WW2 bronze Stars were awarded wellinto Vietnam. I thought I read in the JOMSA up until 1970 when a new contract was given. 

theres an 8th Air Force database. Try asking here. The collective we here have a lot of resources.

nope-no medal. 

As I recall thats a private commemorative version that was adopted by several towns-with different planchets and ribbons.

Austrians  awarded the wound medal usually kept their medalson their bars  -there's a tonne of photos for this.

cool. i met a couple of Boer war vets myself as a kid. Oh to have seen what they did.

I dont think its made up. Why would one bother? Instead I suggest its possibly AFS and very early 1946- 1947, which would fit the construction.  

As an aside-very few of the residents of Ostmark applied for and received an HK. The medal was authorized for Ostmarkers only in 1939 and frozen in early 1940. 

I thought archive research had narrowed down the non Bavarian awards of the MVK pre war to almost nobody(1-3?). 

My money is on a Deckofficer. Without the SaxAlbx its a classic combination for someone stuck in the Baltic for 1914-18. 

yup-implied. Rick showed me the research he and others had done on the Olympic medal awards. A huge number went to metro area Berlin police. 

The MM was an officers' only award was it not? However, I thought Feldwebel-Lts, Faehrichs and Officer Stelvtr. ranks could also receive it.  Sedalzek was in business well into the 1970s and it looks like an original bar.  I think you did ok. 

Regarding the Post of May above-I strongly suspect this was a German made/ repaired item made by Kleitman/Godet in the 1960s. Kleitman made a number of these as replacements and as collectors items. In his window/show display items he sometimes enscribed the item on the rear. 

yeah. they really are amazingly vivid.

Id buy it. Berlin police.