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  1. Well your first bar looks like a Prussian Red Eagle order with Crown, Prussian Crown Order, Long Service Medal, ?, Kaiser Centennial Medal. In the first bar first picture also has a EkII. More to follow later

    If it was anything higher than a BSM it would be easier to research. One thing you might try is to look up the name on "find a grave". It is not likely the man is living. Most of the vets are in their 90s
  3. Recently my friend acquired a GJR 137 Waffenrock for Adolf Frank (name in tunic). We are trying to find out if this officer was awarded any medals or badges either from WW1 or WW2. This is what we have found so far: ANY HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED!!! This website lists all the key leaders for GJR 137 in early 1939, and confirms that Hauptmann Dr. Frank was the Kompanie Chef for 2nd CO / I. Battalion / GJR 137 http://gliederungundstellenbesetzung.blogspot.com/2008/07/gebirgsjger-regiment-137-gebjgrgt137-d.html However I hit the jackpot with this research from the Axis History Forum. This guy in Austria compiled a master list of all the Austrian officers from the Bundesheer who transferred into the Wehrmacht in 1938. http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=208886 After looking through all of his spreadsheets I found a Dr. Adolf Frank who must be the same guy. According to the spreadsheet, Dr. Adolf Frank lived from 14 June 1901 - 12 September 1939. His date of ranks are: Oberleutnant on 1 September 1934 (Austrian Bundesheer), Hauptmann on 1 April 1937 (Austrian Bundesheer), and Major on 1 January 1939 (German Wehrmacht). Last known assignment was GJR 137. Former unit in the Austrian Bundesheer was AJR 10. This article on Feldgrau.com lists what Austrian units were incorporated into the Wehrmacht in 1938. http://www.feldgrau.com/articles.php?ID=7 According to this website, in 1938 the Steiermarkischen Alpenjäger-Regiment 10 "Feldmarschall Conrad von Hötzendorf" (5th Austrian Division) re-flagged to become III./GJR 138 This is from his email: "So what I learned from all this is that Dr. Adolf Frank was an Austrian officer from at least 1934-1938, in 1938 his unit (AJR 10 5th Austrian Division) transferred to III./GJR 138, and then shortly thereafter (late 1938/early 1939) he transferred to 2./I./GJR 137 as Company Commander. Then apparently he died in the Polish campaign after only two weeks of war??? What doesn't make sense is that according to the spreadsheet he promoted to Major in January 1939, however according to other sources he was still Kompanie Chef in early 1939. In addition the tailor label in the Waffenrock says it's from 1939 and the rank on the shoulders is still Hauptmann. I wonder if he was still a Company Commander when the Polish campaign kicked off.....or maybe he promoted to Major and got bumped up to a staff position? If he was really born in 1901 then he was a fairly old Company Commander (38 years old). This means he would have been only 17 when WW1 ended, so I wonder if he would have been too young to participate in that war? Was the Austro-Hungarian Empire drafting 17 year-olds in 1918? That sucks if he died in the second week of the Polish campaign. I looked up the history of the 2nd Mountain Division in the 1939 Polish Campaign in Kaltenegger's history of the Gebirgsjager and it seems that 2nd GJ DIV and 1st GJ DIV both jumped off from Slovakia and marched nearly 300km to capture Lemberg in far southeastern Poland (modern-day Ukraine). I understand that 1st GJ DIV took a lot of casualties capturing Lemberg, and apparently GJR 137 was re-assigned to 1st GJ DIV during this operation. However the battle for Lemberg occurred at least a week after this officer died (supposedly 12 September 1939). At any rate they lost a ton of guys fighting for Lemberg, and then had to hand it over to the Red Army as per the secret diplomatic agreement with the Soviets. Now I just need to figure out what awards were appropriate for an Austrian officer in peacetime (1934-1938), and if this guy served in WW1 as a young teenager. Also if he died in the Polish campaign then maybe there is a record somewhere of the casualty lists by unit, and maybe awards he might have received. Would it have been standard practice if you are an infantrymen who dies in active combat that you receive the Infantry Assault and Wound Badge posthumously? (and maybe EKII if you are a combat leader like a company commander?)" Thanks.
  4. Beautiful display. Very nice
  5. Oh interesting story. I wish I could be there and find some stuff.
  6. Was there a body or anything found. If not, maybe Einecke buried the stuff himself. Either way It is such an amazing find.
  7. Thanks for the info and links regarding the GPB. I normally am not interested in this topic, however, i have been looking for information on a specific GPB holder. This will help.
  8. I can't read the first name but the last name definitely looks seems to be Einecke. If this is the case, the guy scored big time.
  9. Did you dig that. I have never seen a Golden Party Badge number that low before. Thanks for sharing.
  10. Can anyone provide me some information on what happened to this guy after WWII? I have done some extensive research on Hass, have units, awards, and some other stuff, but I cannot find anything on if he was captured, disappeared, or lived out his life. Any help would be appreciated. The last known rank was Hauptmann dR and it was either as Commander of 7th Pi BN or as a Kompanie Fuhrer (Commander) in 198th Pi BN. It ends there. Thanks
  11. Thanks for the information. As for Hass' stuff, my collector buddy told me the following about all of the original grouping: in the 1960s, the Hass family gave the grouping up to Weitze or another private collector. It consisted of two uniforms (one with a sewn on DKiG and one with all of the metal badges )golden party badge, wehrpass, soldbuch, photos, mug, dog tag, a bunch of award documents, and enlistment document. Finally when it all came to weitze at some point the entire group was split up and went to the four winds. Kind of sad. I would love to find out what happened to him after the war because I am thinking since Hass had been a NSDAP golden member since 1933, he was probably put in a POW camp somewhere. Well if I find anything else, I will let you know. Thanks again
  12. Yes, this is true. The original source of this article came into effect this past January across all services. The Navy and Marine Corps used to give a "V" device in two ways: 1) For a Combat Distinguishing Device, now like the "C" device; and 2) for actual Valor. The Navy and Marine Corps could actually get one on their NAMs (Navy Achievement Medal) also. That is why you see the current CJCS with a "V" on his Legion of Merit. He got it as a Regimental Commander for a Combat Achievement during the Invasion of Iraq, not for Valor. The USAF, would give out for Valor, but they also have some unit award that could get a V. The Army would only give out a "V" for VALOR ONLY and this would only go down to the Army Commendation Medal. (I have one of these). DoD did this to try to get all of the services on the same page with the "V" device. Hope this helps.
  13. I am thinking it is not a specific ribbon bar to this gentleman. The angle of the photo looks like the ribbons are too big compared to the ones in the photo. Some advice an advanced collector told me (not being a smart ass here just trying to help)--> "Buy the item, not the story."
  14. You can post in the Classified Adverts Page. BTW, if you have a nice SA Treffen Badge (Type II Stamped or Solid Back with Vertical Pin) I would be interested

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    Original and very extensive document bundle of papers of the major from 5. Baden field artillery regiment Nr.76 from the time before 1918. Erwin Ludwig von Steinberg, born in Oberkirch, Baden, on 17 May 1867. Married 4 October 1894 to Luise Agnes Gustava Elsbeth (Else) Freiin von Berg. After leaving active duty, they lived in Eschenhof bei Winterbach, Baden. They had one son, Heinz Martin Alexander Erwin Bernhard, born 4 April 1909 in Eschenhof. Career Statistics: 16.05.1888 - Portepée-Fähnrich, 1.GFAR 15.01.1889 - Sek.-Lieut., 1.GFAR 15.02.1890 - transferred to Reserve of 1.GFAR, commanded to FAR 15 19.05.1891 - returned to active duty with FAR 15, with Patent of 15.02.1889 18.08.1896 - Prem.-Lieut., transferred to FAR 10 01.04.1899 - commanded to the Great General Staff for one year 01.04.1900 - transferred to FAR 46 01.10.1900 - promoted to Hauptmann (no Patent) 01.04.1903 - transferred to FAR 14 as a Batterie-Chef 27.01.1904 - Patent as Hauptmann (P3p) 17.11.1906 - Retired 14.11.1916 - char. Major I got this document grouping from a member here about 10 years ago. It includes: 1. Urkunden Reifezeugnis zum Portepeefähnrich, 2. dem Reifezeugnis zum Offizier, 3. dem Patent zum Portepeefähnrich, 4. dem Patent zum Second Lieutenant, 5. dem Patent zum Premierlieutenant, 6. der Urkunde zum EK I 7. und EK II 8. dem Kreuz der Ritter vom königlichen Hausordens von Hohenzollern mit Schwertern, 9. der Medaillie zum 100 Geburtstag von Kaiser Wilhelm I , 10. dem Roten Adlerorden 4 Klasse 11. dem Ritterkreuz mit Eichenlaub und Schwerter des Ordens vom Zähringer Löwen.


  16. Gents I have a very nice EM Pionier Waffenrock that has everything original to the tunic minus the Collar tabs. If you have a matching set or know where I can find them, please direct me to the source or let me know. I am looking for the standard issue ones. I have checked most sites over the last year and spoke with friends, but no one seems to be able to find them. Any help would be appreciated. If I posted this int he wrong section, I apologize in advance.
  17. $3-6k USD. You may lose some value off the high end because all of it needs to be restored, however As it is named, so it could add value off the mid-end
  18. Truely wonder. You are blessed to have all of that
  19. There were a series of APB's awarded mainly to the 24th WSS Kartsjager Division. I dont have my book in front of me, but the numbers were really low. 8x Gold (and special variations), and a couple thousand in Silver and Bronze. Most APB's that you find now are fakes. If you find an authentic one you are looking between $2500 USD and up. I will never trash another man's treasure, but just from the picture that I see, having a Gold CCC (very rare) is something that I question, especially with that patina (looks too new). You really need to look at the liner, cuff title, and other things. There is a specific stitch patter to the cuff titles, but a big indicator that doesn't take long to establish is hitting it with a black light. If the white glows it is a repro. Hope this helps brother.
  20. French Foreign Legion Medal Group

    Thanks. Thank you. Thanks again for your reply, but check this link out. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_French_Foreign_Legion
  21. beautiful uniform. Is this something that you put together or is there a story behind it?