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  1. Dear Friends , I am pasting you the pictures of a FAKE Order of Osmanie , If you have any questions you can ask me. Regards, Avsar Ibar
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    To Compare , A fake and an Original Order of Osmanie

    Hello , Both orders are original , ok . Both Ottoman Mint made but different periods... The one without the ribbon is guatanteed 4th class , the one with neck ribbon is 2nd or 3rd class . Good luck ! Avsar
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    To Compare , A fake and an Original Order of Osmanie

    You are welcome . The 2nd one also has some miss-aligned center problems ... All the best , Avsar
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    To Compare , A fake and an Original Order of Osmanie

    Hello Skip , The one you asked for is an Original Osmanie order , 4th class . As you mentioned the condition is average ... Best Wishes , Avsar Ibar
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    Order of Charity (Nishani Shefkat - Şefkat Nişanı)

    Yes , exactly ... perfect !!!
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    Order of Charity (Nishani Shefkat - Şefkat Nişanı)

    Hello ! Many of them made by Ottoman Mint and some rare ones made by famous foreign ( Mostly French ) order makers such as Kretly ... Halley .. Boullanger ... Avsar
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    Turkish Liyakat medal

    That is above is a nice German Made "Liyakat Medal " , not an official Ottoman Mint made one ...
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    Fake or not, Order of Medjidie

    Hello , Dont worry ... It is a very nice Ottoman Made Breast Star of Medjidie . Avsar IBAR
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    Order of Medjidie, commander class

    Hello , Crimean War Period Made ... 1850ss - 1860ss ... This one made just after the British Made ones (The flat ones without any maker's mark or other marks ... ) Best Wishes , Avsar Ibar
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    Hello , This item ( I can NOT say it an "order" ! , it will be shame if i will ...) is ALL TOTAL FAKE . Best wishes , Avsar Ibar
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    Order of Charity (Nishani Shefkat - Şefkat Nişanı)

    Below a first class star ... and another 1st Class Set ... This time the 1st Class Breast Star is with Paste Stones .... Below , probably a European Made 2nd Class order ... Original Ribbon but in a later - Not Original Case/box. Please be note that there is NO "Wreath and Star" or "only wreath" on the reverse of the order... Also you can see that the gold center ( where the Toughra Located ) is cambered ... Not flat as in the Ottoman made ones ....
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    Order of Charity (Nishani Shefkat - Şefkat Nişanı)

    Below another 2nd Class ... Another 2nd class with Original Box and Ribbon ... And below a 3rd Class ... To COMPARE the size of 2nd Class Order (on the left) and a 1st Class Breast Star ( on the right ) , please check the below picture ...
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    Order of Charity (Nishani Shefkat - Şefkat Nişanı)

    Below is a 1st Class Special Type Breast Star . ( Only diamonds ... ) Below is a Classic 1st Class Breast Star . Below , another 2nd Class .. And a 1st Class Set ... A close up picture of 2nd class --- Diamonds and Rubies
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    Order of Charity (Nishani Shefkat - Şefkat Nişanı)

    You are welcome Gordon ! Here is the picture of a 3rd class one ... ( No stones .. No diamonds ... No rubies ... Just green and red enamels ... ) Below is a 2nd Class Order ... Below a first class Star .
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    Order of Charity (Nishani Shefkat - Şefkat Nişanı)

    Hello Gordon , It is a second class Sevkat order . 3rd class ones do not have any stones on them , you can see the Original box on the pictures but NOT correct ribbon . That incorrect ribbon is coming from a Big Imtiyaz Medal , nothing related with a Sevkat ... Best wishes , Avsar Ibar
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    order of mejidje 3 class with swords and medals

    Chris , you mean the miniatures with swords on chain ? I never see ... ( on a chain ) but , in past i saw few miniature medjidies with swords , not on a chain , single ones ...
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    order of mejidje 3 class with swords and medals

    Hello Chris , No exact info regarding the quantity . But over all they are quite rare . ( even to Turkish receipents and also to German Officers , if you compare with the other foreigners and Germans , you can find the posibility to find them to the Germans then others ... ) Thanks , Avsar
  18. Also , you can see the St.Anna in this picture , what i bealive , another example of the black St.Anna but NOT "absolutely flat" enamels ... Same as the Marazov made Black St.Anna in the medalirus page ....
  19. Dear Friends , May i kindly ask you to examine the below St.Anna 2nd Class Made by " Morazov - IM " , i took the pictures from the wellknown beautiful website .. My question is , musnt be this order's arms " FLAT " as the classic black enamelled private made St. Annas ? But you can easily understand from the pictures here , they are not flat ... Thanks in advance for the opinions , Avsar
  20. I submit a reply to your St.Stanislaus topic . best wishes , Avs
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    St.Stanislas order

    Hello karakas , There are better knowledge guys then me about Russian orders here arround but in my opinion , the order , Luxory Type of St.Stan you pictured is original , i am not sure about the sabers ... Can you post a picture of the stamp on the loop , from the last picture seems to be something on the reverse loop ... D.O. even Carl Faberge made such kind of private made St.Stans ... Avs
  22. You have a very nice piece too . I will send you the pictures of my St. Anna tomorrow , it is in my office .
  23. The reason that i asked the question is , i also have the same style black enameled St.Anna in very , very good condition with original old - period hot black enamels ... Anyway , thanks ...
  24. Hello Gordon , That piece which you pictured is once up on a time ( better to say "was" ) a 5 th class original Ottoman Mint made Medjidie . but one of the most tired example i saw in my life ... Many things happened to it , it is nothing related with coro ... It is not German later made , it is Ottoman made one .... Then first it lost his crescent and star , his enamels are nearly all broken and then re-painted again ( not re-enamelled ) ... Meanwhile some body or the owner decide to add a pin to the back to hang it or use it as a brooch maybe ... They also cut the loop where the crescent and star connecting from it's silver body ... and so on ... best Wishes , Avsar Ibar
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    osmanieh order with brilliants

    Dear Sirs , Those 2 orders Mr.Utopis posted , i do not know if they are from his collection or he wanted to buy them that is why he asked our opinions but what i have to say is ; It is NOT good for collectors and never gives a positive wish to collect , if we blame on all items ! UNLESS IT IS GUARANTEED FAKE ! As i mentioned the one with diamonds , it must be investigate better ... But all the Osmanie or Medjidie orders are NOT same , all the Makers ; Ottoman / French / British even Italians ( Italians Also made Medjidie Orders ... ) had different styles ... But i also still insist that the Osmanie Order with Sabers is an Original Sabered piece , btw , all the Swords added later , the matter is if they added in the period or today ... In that example which Utopis posted , The holes are NOT very big as the fake ones , swords looks OK , patina is Ok , dimensions are Ok and proportions of the swords are Ok !!! This is a GOOD PIECE . The holes maybe just a little big , but it is NOT a problem , we have to examine everything and make a complete calculation to decide the authenticity ... Regards , Avsar