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  1. Rusty Greaves

    Question about the Order of Ismail/Nishan al-Ismail

    Below is an oddly "repaired" or refurbished example of a Grand Officer Class of the Order of Ismail breast star. This image comes from a 2013 auction by Fritz Rudolf Künker GmbH & Co. KG (Auction 240, Lot 910), archived on the acsearch.com website (https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?term=Egypt &category=4&en=1&de=1&fr=1&it=1&es=1&ot=1&images=1&thesaurus=1&order=0&currency=usd&company=). This example is correctly identified as the 2nd Class of this award, it was made by Lattes, measures 70.3 mm in diameter, and is hallmarked with a Cairo 900 silver fineness mark and a date hallmark of "Z"=1924-25 (although the auction description identifies this as for 1949). No gold hallmark is described and no image of the reverse is provided. The margin of the central medallion of the wreath design on this example is not the usual gold ring with raised fine dots, as seen on the inner medallion margin surrounding the gold & blue enamel inscription "Ismail". Instead it exhibits a facetted silver(?) margin that is unlike any other example I have seen. This medallion margin frame also appears a bit thicker than the usual margin, it seems to obscure some of the gold on the most inner portion of each ray of the five-rayed star. Given the design consistency in examples of the Order of Ismail, I cannot imagine that this is a genuine variant but must be an unfortunate "repair" to this breast star. The anomalous aspect of this piece is not mentioned in the auction description.
  2. Rusty Greaves

    Egypt Khedivate Judge's Badge question

    I have recently gotten an interlibrary loan of a very interesting volume celebrating the 50th anniversary of the Egyptian Mixed Courts, published in 1926: Les Juridictions Mixtes d'Égypte 1876-1926: Livre d'or Édité sous le Patronage du Conseil de l’Ordre des Avocats á l’Occasion du Cinquantenaire des Tribunaux de la Réforme, par le: journal des Tribunaux Mixtes. Alexandrie, Egypte, Février 1926. This publication has a number of photos of judges (foreign and Egyptian), councilors, and other staff associated with the history of the Mixed Courts and very complete listings of all current & past judges by the courts they served as of 1926. I am going though this to get some of the photos of judges in their official costumes with badges visible for this thread and to try and resolve some of the conflicts regarding particular judges' appointment details whose named badges I have come across and presented on this thread (i.e., Herbert Hills, Joseph Timmermans, Michael Hansson, and Alexander Cockburn McBarnet). The photos in this volume are not high resolution, but they should provided some interestingly complete and well-documented images of the different courts. Today I am only going to post one of the images from that volume for the Court of Mansourah that includes an image of the important Egyptian modernist painter Mahmoud Saïd in his judicial regalia (page 194) at age 28. This image can be zoomed, but I will see if I can scan it at a higher resolution. This is the only photograph I have seen of Saïd in his judicial costume (front row, 2nd from L). Front Row L-R=Julien Sheridan (Belgium) Mahmoud Saïd (Egypt, Chef du Parquet), Hangs Gram Bechmann (Denmark, Président), Maurice de Wee (Belgium, Vice-Président), Ahmed Bey Mazloum (Egypt). Back row L-R=Iscandar Azer Bey (Egypt), Hassan Kamel (Egypt, Substitut du Procureur Général), Antonio Pennetta (Italy), Pehr de Cederskjold (or Cedereschiold?, Sweden), JoséFesser y Reina (Spain), Ismail Gazzarine (Egypt, Substitut du Procureur Général, actuellement transféré á Alexandrie) Mahmoud Saïd painted a portrait of Maurice de Wee (shown in the portrait above, 2nd from R) in civilian clothes in c.1924-26. Saïd painted 2 portraits of Ahmed Bey Mazloum (also shown in the portrait above, 1st from R) in civilian clothes as well (1917 & 1921). I have previously posted the portrait that Saïd painted of the the American judge and President of the Court of Appeals, Jasper Brinton (painted in 1944), in my post of 1 December, 2016 on this thread, the only portrait he did of a judge wearing part of his costume. Interestingly, Ahmed Mazloum Pacha in the above photo looks much more like the Mahmoud Saïd portrait of him made in 1917 than the 1921 portrait of him with gray moustaches and hair (is there perhaps an attribution problem of the subject in the 1921 painting?). I still have some confusion about Saïd's judicial career, however I have confirmed that Saïd worked principally in the Parquet, the prosecutor's office. He was appointed the deputy district prosecutor (Parquet) in 1921 (substitute) and promoted in that position in 1922. He was named Chief of the Parquet in Mansourah in 1925, and probably served on the district Courts in Alexandria starting in 1937, and retired from his legal career in 1949, the year of the closing of the Mixed Courts. Saïd was awarded the Egyptian Kingdom Order of the Nile (4th Class) probably after his retirement in 1949, the Republic-era Order of Independence of the Republic, the Egyptian State Merit Award for Arts in 1960 and the French Légion d'honneur in 1951 (although some biographical sources identify it as the "Medal for Honorary Merit"). Saïd's judicial badge (silver), Order of the Nile (with ribbon & rosette, hence 4th Class), the Order of Independence of the Republic (sans ribbon), and several art medals awarded to him are housed in Mahmoud Saïd Museum in Gianaclis, Alexandria (6 Mahmoud Saïd Pasha Street). I also recently came across the above image of the Danish Judge Carl Valdemar Kraft (it can be zoomed for better details). This photo is from a postcard by the Atelier of Andreas D. Reiser in Alexandria (although undated, this image must have been taken between Kraft's initial appointment in 1896 and 1914, Reiser was a Romanian who moved to Egypt in 1884 and had studios in Alexandria & Cairo. Andreas Reiser died in 1898, his son Lucien and partner Anton Binder continued to run the studio in Alexandria until 1914, and then moved to Munich) showing Kraft in his maroon fez, black tunic, red sash (for the District Courts), and judicial badge (that should be gold and silver). This portrait provides good detail of the decorative sash knot for the District Courts' sash. Kraft was appointed to the District Court in 1896 in Mansourah and transferred to Cairo in 1901. He retired in 1920, having reached the age limit for serving on the courts (70). Kraft was awarded the Grand Officer Class of the Order of the Nile upon his retirement.
  3. Rusty Greaves

    Egypt Khedivate Judge's Badge question

    I want to provide some information about hallmarks on the Egyptian Mixed Courts judges’ badges. I have recently been researching Egyptian hallmarks for my interests in the Egyptian Order of Ismail. I have provided data and images on the precious metal hallmarks in the thread “Question about the Order of Ismail/Nishan al-Ismail” that I started on 7 November, 2017 in this Middle East & Arab States section. My posts on the Order of Ismail thread of 11 January, 2019 and 21 February, 2019 contain more detailed information about those hallmarks than I wish to repeat here. Unlike the availability of many photos of hallmarks for the Order of Ismail, many fewer auction listings contain useful photos of the manufacturers’ hallmarks and precious metal hallmarks for these Mixed Courts judicial badges. I have included some of the illustrations below in previous posts, and apologize for the redundancy, but want to have the relevant images together in this discussion of the hallmarks on the Mixed Courts badges. There are not a lot of the photographs of the Egyptian Mixed Courts judges’ badges that exhibit hallmarks. That is true for both the manufacturers’ hallmarks and fineness hallmarks as well. As noted in this thread, probably only one manufacturer was located in Europe (Foment-Meurice of Paris), and several examples attributed to this workshop lack any hallmarks. Additionally, many of the Egyptian-manufactured badges appear to lack manufacturers' hallmarks as well (although they all would legally have been required to have precious metal hallmarks). Several auction sites note that their badge offerings do not bear any hallmarks, and it appears that some auction badges that are cased (with the manufacturers’ names) also may not be marked. Several photos that I have previously posted on this thread show the reverse of badges that are unmarked. Unlike my research on Egyptian gold and silver hallmarks in relation to the Order of Ismail, there is not as rich a photographic documentation or auction description details regarding the hallmarks associated with the Mixed Courts badges. As noted in other posts here, one foreign manufacturer of these judicial badges, Froment-Meurice of Paris, is well-documented in the auction availability of these badges, and Egyptian manufacturers include Stobbe of Alexandria, Wolf Horovitz of Alexandria, and probably others as well. Although some sources identify J. Lattes of Cairo, Tewfik Bichay of Cairo, and M. Laurencin & Cie. of Alexandria, as makers of these badges, I have not yet seen photographs of makers’ hallmarks for these manufacturers nor any auction information about examples made by them (except the badge attributed to M. Laurencin & Cie in a November 2012 auction by La Galerie Numismatique, but without any images of the reverse or maker’s name on the case for that example, shown below). Paul Wood wrote that he has seen examples made by Lattes and Bichay in his post of 10 May, 2011 on the thread “Egyptian Khedivate – Judges Badge of Office” started by drclaw on 9 May, 2011 here in the Middle East & Arab States section, a link to that thread also is in my first post on 17 November, 2016 on this thread. The most commonly seen examples on auction sites are made by Froment-Meurice (many unmarked, but in Froment-Meurice cases) and Stobbe of Alexandria. I have never seen an image of the reverse of an example made by Laurencine & Cie., and have only come across the one La Galerie Numismatique example that is attributed to this Alexandrian maker. Of course, a few auction listings do identify incorrect manufacturers. Egyptian precious metal hallmarks include a complete set of three different hallmarks (see the two illustrations below). When all 3 are present they read from L-R as the fineness mark that includes a square with the particular assay office identified and the purity of the metal (gold, silver, or platinum). The middle square hallmark identifies the kind of precious metal, and is distinct to Egyptian manufacture. The rightmost square is a letter that identifies the year, either of manufacture or hallmarking. These are all punched by the assay office that tests each piece. On some parts of particular kinds of items, only two hallmarks may be present (the fineness and date hallmarks) or a single hallmark may be stamped (always the fineness mark). However, somewhere on these pieces, all 3 hallmarks should be present. A complete set of all 3 Egyptian gold hallmarks on the reverse of a Commander’s neck badge of the Order of Ismail made by J. Lattes of Cairo (https://www.sixbid.com/browse.html?auction=3427&category=71681&lot=2842251). They indicate, from L-R: the finesses mark of the Cairo assay office of 18 carat gold; the ibis hallmark for Egyptian-manufactured gold; and a date hallmark “A: indicating manufacture or hallmarking in 1925-1926. A complete set of 3 silver hallmarks from the reverse of a Grand Officer’s Class of the Order of Ismail made by J. Lattes of Cairo (https://www.ebay.com/itm/EGYPT-ORDER-OF-THE-ISMAIL-2ND-CLASS-GRAND-OFFICER-ORIGINAL-CASE-RIBBON-RARE/222734299477?hash=item33dbffb155:g:5jQAAOSwQwBZkILL). From L-R they indicate: the fineness mark from the Cairo assay office of 90% (900 silver); the cat indicating an Egyptian-made silver piece; and a date hallmark of “Z” indicating manufacture in 1924-1925. On the left are fineness hallmarks for Egyptian gold with the identification of the Cairo assay office for (from top-bottom): 23.5 carats; 21 carats, 18 carats; 15 carats, and 12 carats. On the right is the ibis hallmark indicating Egyptian-made gold (from: Fahmy, Azza 2007. Enchanted Jewelry of Egypt: The Tradition and Craft. The American University of Cairo Press, Cairo and New York: pg 198, credited to the Egyptian Department of Hallmarks and Measures Archives). Table of letters used to identify the year(s) of manufacturing or hallmarking of precious metals (for both gold and silver). English letters were used from 1916-1940, and then Arabic letters were used through the current day (a table that includes additional letters from 1982 until 2009 is shown in the 2nd image of my post of 11 January, 2019 on the thread “Question about the Order of Ismail/Nishan al-Ismail” that I started on 7 November, 2017. However, that table contains some errors). From Fahmy 2007: pg 199, derived from the Egyptian Department of Hallmarks and Measures Archives. Fahmy also notes (pg 201) that after 1949 (until 1967) the letters changed every 2 years (rather than the previous practice of changing them each year). When the war between Egypt and Israel occurred in 1967, Egypt stopped importing the steel pens used to trace hallmarks on jewelry from England until 1974 in order to conserve their reserves of foreign currency. Egyptian silver hallmarks from illustrations in the Fahmy 2007 volume, pg. 200 (from the Egyptian Department of Hallmarks and Measures Archives). On the left is a chart that shows regional hallmarks from the principal assay offices. The lotus blossom in all examples is the mark for Egyptian silver that may have been instituted in 1946 to replace the cat symbol (however see the last note and hallmark examples in this post). The 3 hallmarks to the right of the lotus show the different finesses mark options that include the identification of the particular assay office (the symbol at the top of the square) and the particular silver purity markings (600, 800, and 900 silver) for any individual piece. The Arabic letter at the right is a date hallmark, in this case I am uncertain which letter it represents, whether for 1965-1967 or 1968-1974. The illustration on the right shows 3 different Egyptian silver hallmarks that are used in the middle position of a complete set of hallmarks. From top--bottom they are: the lotus blossom mark that may be for post-1946 Egyptian silver (but see the final illustrations in this post), the cat with a raised tail hallmark that many sources identify as the hallmark for Egyptian silver between 1916-1942, and a variant cat hallmark with a lowered tail, this example also showing the Arabic “90” for 90% (900) silver. I have only seen the cat with a raised tail hallmark on the Order of Ismail or on the Mixed Courts judges' badges where these hallmarks are shown in enough detail in photographs. Additional examples of the variation in how some of these marks look can be seen on my 11 January and 21 February, 2019 posts on the Order of Ismail thread. Froment-Meurice, Paris: Émile Froment-Meurice lived from 1837-1913 and created the design of the judicial badge that was instituted by Khedive Abbas Hilmi II. I am uncertain of the precise date when this badge was instituted, although the Fritz Rudolf Künker GmbH & Co. KG auction description of a Stobbe manufactured Dictrict Court gold and silver judge’s badge (see below) identifies 1907 as the date of this commission. The creation of this badge for the Mixed Courts’ judges may have been associated with the judicial costume change from the earliest practice of each judge (foreign and Egyptian) wearing their own country’s judicial robes to a standardized Egyptian costume of fez, long tunic coat, along with the colored sashes and this large badge (see my discussion in the 4th paragraph of my 24 March, 2017 post in this thread). Such a promotion of Egyptian attire for the Mixed Courts judges is consistent with Khedive Abbas Hilmi II’s nationalist leanings, a source of conflict with Lord Cromer and later with Lord Kitchener that eventually resulted in the Khedive being deposed and banished from Egypt by the occupying British "protectorate" in 1914 after the beginning of WWI. Émile Froment-Meurice took over the workshop in 1859 following the death of his father, François-Désiré Foment-Meurice, in 1855. The name Froment-Meurice derives from Émile’s paternal grandmother having married her husband’s (François Froment) partner following her husband's death, goldsmith Pierre Meurice in 1832, changing the workshop name to Froment-Meurice. Émile’s father, François-Désiré Froment-Meurice took over the shop in 1837, the year of Emile’s birth. Émile Froment-Meurice is known for having worked in a distinctive sculptural or figural decorative arts style (bijoux sculptes) rather than the joaillerie and bijouterie style that previously characterized the work coming out of the shop. Perhaps his training in the delicacy of the bijouterie style is partly responsible for the beauty of the Egyptian Mixed Courts badge. Judicial badges either marked Froment-Meurice or attributed to that manufacturer appear to dominate the available examples of these badges on current auction sites. In addition to hallmarked examples, several auction badges are identified as the work of Froment-Meurice based on the case associated with the badge. Many examples that are probably the genuine work of Maison Froment-Meurice are unmarked. Most of the manufacturer's hallmarks from this maker are situated in the upper portion of the reverse within the concavity associated with the central coat of arms portion of the obverse design. I have only seen one example showing the diamond-shaped maker’s hallmark with a rose where the name “FROMENT” is above a stylized rose with stem and two leaves, with the bloom on the right side, above the word “MEURICE” (see the 4th example described below, that of Parquet Judge Apostolo N. Gennaropoulo). The two photos above show an example of a Froment-Meurice hallmark on the reverse of a Mixed Courts silver judicial badge from a current eBay listing (https://www.ebay.com/itm/EGYPT-KHEDIVE-SILVER-GILT-ENAMEL-JUDGE-BADGE-TOP-GRADE-EXTREMELY-RARE/223386325115?hash=item3402dcd07b:g:CLQAAOSwo3pWdm9L:rk:2:pf:1) that has been re-listed several times over at least the last 2 years (probably because of the high asking price). I have not previously illustrated the obverse of this particular badge. The uppermost image shows the placement of the manufacturer's hallmark on the reverse of the judicial badge and the lower image a close-up (offset) of the mark. No dimensions are provided for this example in the auction description. Hallmark of Froment-Meurice judicial badge from a high-resolution image of a January 2019 auction by Heritage Auctions (Lot 36093) showing the same placement of the Froment-Meurice hallmark as on the eBay example above. No silver hallmarks are visible in this photo, either on the body of the badge or the tunic pin. The auction listing incorrectly identifies the manufacture as Stobbe. I previously illustrated both the obverse and reverse of this badge on my post here of 14 January, 2019. From: https://coins.ha.com/itm/egypt/egypt-abbas-hilmi-pacha-1874-1944-khedive-1892-1914-magistrate-badge-nd-c1892-au-/a/3072-36093.s?type=CoinArchives3072 and on the Numisbids.com website: https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?p=lot&sid=2946&lot=36093 Reverse of a silver judicial badge made by Froment-Meurice showing the manufacturer’s hallmark in the same upper position as both of the other examples shown above. This badge is from a July 2015 auction by Clarke Auction Gallery, that is archived on the liveauctioneers.com website (https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/38904932_silver-froment-meurice-egyptian-badge). No silver hallmarks are visible in this med-resolution image. It is unclear from this photo whether the mark on the proximal (end near the hings) tunic pin may be a silver hallmark. I previously illustrated the obverse and reverse of this badge, a close-up of the Froment-Meurice hallmark (also shown in the following photo, the badge in its case, the inscription on the interior case lid (also shown below), the two portrait photos of an Egyptian judge wearing either this or a comparable badge with this lot, and another unidentified medal associated with this lot of in my most recent post of 22 January, 2019. Close-up of the Froment-Meurice hallmark on this same badge from the July 2015 Clarke Auction Gallery listing. (https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/38904932_silver-froment-meurice-egyptian-badge) Name and address of Froment-Meurice, 372 Rue St. Honore, Paris on the interior lid of the case for the same silver judicial badge sold by Clarke Auction Gallery in July 2015 (https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/38904932_silver-froment-meurice-egyptian-badge). The interior silk of this case lid is pale blue, as is the velvet badge bed, and the case exterior is a dark blue. Above is a photo of the reverse of the only example of the silver judicial badge I have seen with the Froment-Meurice hallmark in a different position than the examples shown above. It also is a unique photo showing the diamond shaped hallmark with the name “FROMENT” above the stylized rose with stem and two leaves between the lower word “MEURICE” on this badge. I have seen this diamond-shaped hallmark commonly on many Froment-Meurice table service silver pieces. This is the reverse of the cased silver badge worn by the Greek Judge Apostolo N. Gennaropoulo of the Mixed Tribunals Parquet of Alexandria from a 2014 eBay auction archived on the WorthPoint website (https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/ottoman-empire-egypt-khedivate-judges-982926374). I have previously illustrated the obverse of this badge in its original case along with the accompanying photo of Judge Gennaropoulo wearing the badge with his other court regalia, in the 9th photo of my post of 24 March, 2017. Drawing of the Froment-Meurice rose hallmark used by Maison Froment-Meurice. I do not know the date ranges for the use of this hallmark. (From: https://www.langantiques.com/university/Froment-Meurice_Jewelry_Maker%27s_Mark) The Froment-Meurice name and business address (same as on the Clarke Auction Gallery example above, with contrasting interior silk color) on the interior lid of the case for the Judge Gennaropoulo silver Parquet judicial badge. Although the interior silk color is crimson (as is the velvet badge bed,), the exterior case color for this example is dark blue, similar to the Clarke Auction Gallery example shown above in my 22 January post. An eMedals silver judicial badge that is unmarked on its reverse is identified as a Froment-Meurice manufacture due to its associated case, that has the same crimson colored silk with gold lettering and crimson velvet badge bed but has a red leather case exterior (illustrated in the 5th photo following 4 images of the badge itself, including the 3rd and 4th photos that show the unmarked back with no silver hallmarks, on my post of 23 July, 2018). Stobbe of Alexandria: Stobbe is the second most commonly identified manufacturer for the Mixed Courts badges on auction listings. The manufacturer's mark for Stobbe is usually situated on the lower portion of the reverse side’s concavity that defines the central coat of arms on the obverse. I have not yet found good, high-resolution images of the Stobbe hallmarks. The best image of a Stobbe hallmark I have found is on the above example of a gold and silver District courts badge from a Baldwins’ auction of December 2014 (lot 844) archived on The Saleroom.com website (https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/auction-catalogues/baldwins/catalogue-id-srbal10006/lot-895754ae-9b9f-4f06-9d11-a3fe00ab0fe1). The high-resolution image of the reverse shows the Stobbe mark as three lines, although some parts of the right side of the hallmarks are obscured by the closed tunic pin. The first line of the hallmarks reads: “STOBBE”; the second line reads “900” (for 900 silver); and the third line reads “ALEXAND[RIE]”. No other Egyptian silver hallmarks are visible on the reverse of this badge, nor on the pin. I previously illustrated the obverse and reverse of this badge in the first photo of my initial post starting this thread on 17 November, 2016, in the 6th photo of post of March 24, 2017, and in my correction of misidentifying this badge as an Appeals Court badge form on my post of April 4, 2017. An example from a May 2015 auction by Fritz Rudolf Künker GmbH & Co. KG (Lot 49) that is archived on the acsearch.com website (https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=4974323) has a slightly different configuration of the Stobbe Hallmark. This example is identified as being silver, gold, and enamel; the silver and gold means this is a District Courts judge’s badge (Cairo, Alexandria, Mansourah, with the former having a once-a-year session in Port Said). I illustrated this badge’s obverse and reverse on the first post of on 31 October, 2018 (2nd photo). I mistakenly identified it in that post as a silver badge, but both the German description in the auction listing and examination of the obverse, show that gold gilding can be seen (somewhat worn) on the exterior rays, and the rays around the superior 5-pointed star above the central tablet with the enameled inscription. It is unclear which other parts of the obverse of this badge are gold. This badge appears to show a symbol on the left side of the line with the name “STOBBE” that is followed to the right of the maker's name by “900” indicating 900 silver. The location “ALEXANDRIE” is centered below the other inscription. However, the low resolution of this image and the closed tunic pin obscuring some parts of the hallmark make any details very difficult to evaluate. This particular example also is noteworthy because of the visibility of 2 silver (probably?) hallmarks on the lower margin of the reverse of the body of the badge, on the first individual ray to the left of the pin’s catch situated over the most inferior 3 rays of the badge. Again, as the image is not high-enough resolution, it is not possible to determine which 2 hallmarks they are, but most likely they are the assay office’s fineness mark (from Alexandria?) for silver (?) and date hallmark. There also are 3 silver hallmarks on the tunic pin. From the most superior portion of the pin at it’s hinge, approximately ¼ down the length of the pin on the on the left bifurcated part of the pin are the 3 silver hallmarks. The low resolution of this image makes it difficult to read any of these. However, the photo does show they are oriented with the inferior portion of the hallmarks to the left, the first is certainly a fineness mark, although the assay office cannot be identified nor the fineness (probably “ 90” in agreement with the “900” at the right end of the line with Stobbe’s name). The second hallmark is clearly the cat with it’s tail raised, the Egyptian silver hallmark that may be associated with silver made mostly before 1946 (however, see comment below about the King Farouk I medal commemorating the closing of the Mixed Court). I cannot read the date hallmark in this set. No gold hallmark is apparent on the photo of the reverse of this badge. Horovitz of Alexandria: I have only recently found Horovitz as a maker of some judicial badges, and have seen just 2 examples (in addition to the anomalous “pin” form of the judicial badge illustrated on this thread in my post of 2 December, 2018, and the reverse of that badge also is shown below) made by Horowitz offered on auction sites. I presented some information about Wolf Horovitz, a Romanian jeweler who settled in Alexandria in my post of 1 December, 2018 when I first found a judicial badge attributed to Horovitz. This allowed me to re-evaluate the markings on a gold Appeals Court badge that I illustrated in the 4th and 5th photos of my post of 24 March, 2017 (both the obverse and reverse, and only the reverse of that badge is shown in the next photo below). Reverse of the only example of a gold International Tribunals Appeals Court badge I have seen a photograph of, from a flickr site. Unfortunately, I did not copy the http address of the images for this badge before they appear to have been removed from flickr. I cannot subsequently re-locate the photos and have not successfully found them with a Google Images search. Although not a high-resolution image, the first 3 letters of “HOR” can be made out to the left of the tunic pin and “TZ” can be seen on the right side of the pin. This manufcturer’s mark is in approximately the same position as the majority of the Froment-Meurice manufacturer’s hallmarks. Near the bottom of the concavity associated with the obverse coat of arms, 2 gold hallmarks are visible to the left of the tunic pin. The photo is not detailed enough to read those hallmarks, but the rightmost one is probably a fineness mark (most likely from the Alexandria assay office as is clear in the other Horovitz example from an ongoing eBay auction shown below). As I have seen no other examples’ hallmarks nor any descriptions of the gold purity of the Appeals Court badges, I do not know how many carats may be assayed. The other Horovitz example I have seen, shown below, is silver. Reverse of a silver Horovitz judge’s badge from a December 2018 eBay auction (https://www.ebay.com/itm/EGYPT-KING-FAROUK-SILVER-GILT-ENAMEL-JUDGE-BADGE-IN-ORIGINAL-CASE-XXX-RARE/223228334558?hash=item33f97211de:g:1o0AAOSwBURb6gap) that continues to be re-listed on eBay, also probably because of the high asking price. This photo shows the identical placement of the Horovitz manufacturer’s hallmark (the pin also obscuring the same letters “…OVI…” as on the Appeals Court example) as on the gold Appeals Court example and the same position for the precious metal hallmarks. This photo also shows that the tunic pin has 2 silver hallmarks near the proximal (hinge) end on the left bifurcated pin portion. I previously provided images of the obverse, reverse, some of the hallmarks, and images of the case in my 1 December, 2018 post on this thread. The same silver Horovitz badge from the current eBay auction with the tunic pin open showing the manufacturer’s hallmark and the 3 silver hallmarks. Close-up of the reverse of the same silver Horovitz judicial badge showing the Horovitz maker’s hallmark and the 3 silver hallmarks. Detaisl of both hallmarks are shown below. Close-up of the “HOROVITZ” maker’s hallmark on the same eBay silver judges badge. Close-up of the 3 silver hallmarks on this same Horovitz judge’s badge. From L-R they indicate: the finesses mark from the Alexandria assay office for 90% (900) silver, the cat hallmark indicating Egyptian silver, and the date hallmark “N” indicating a manufacture or hallmarking date of 1938-1939. Close-up of the two silver hallmarks on the tunic pin of the same eBay example the Horovitz judge’s badge. The hallmarks are (L-R) the Alexandria assay office fineness mark for 90% silver and the date Hallmark “N”. W. Horowitz name and business address (26 Rue Chérif Pacha, Alexandrie) inside the upper lid of the case of this same eBay example that is lined with tan silk, the velvet badge bed also is tan, and the case exterior appears to be dark green or black. Reverse of the strange silver pin based on the iconography of the Mixed Courts badge that I illustrated on 2 December, 2018 on this thread. This is from a December 2018 auction by Bamfords (http://www.bamfords-auctions.co.uk/auctions/673/lot-3620A/_/) that is archived on The Salesroom website (https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/auction-catalogues/bamfords/catalogue-id-bamfor10553/lot-546dbbb8-f7b1-4f6a-a2ba-a9a0009cb8b5). The "HOROVITZ" hallmark is partially visible underneath the tunic pin in the same position as the other Horovitz examples shown above. Three silver hallmarks are visible to the left of the distal end of the tunic pin, above the catch and within the concavity of the modified coat of arms on the obverse. Although not high resolution, the 3 silver hallmarks probably represent the assay office (Alexandria?) fineness mark, the cat with tail raised mark for Egyptian silver can just be made out as the middle hallmark, and the rightmost should be a date hallmark. As noted in my original description of this anomalous piece, it appears to be somewhat crudely cast (note the negative holes on either side of the tunic pin in the middle of the concavity where judicial badges have raised attachments for securing the tablet with the inscription to the central coat of arms and affixing both components to the obverse face of the embellishment in the 3-piece construction that can be seen especially well in the 5th photo, and the 2nd photo, from a June 2018 eMedals auction in my post of 23 July, 2018 on this thread-additionally, the 6th and 7th photos in that post also show good images of the unmarked reverse of a Froment-Meurice badge), but as it is a silver jewelry piece it still should bear Egyptian hallmarks, and these do appear to be in relief. Also note the 3 silver hallmarks on the most distal portion of the right side's bifurcated proximal portion of the tunic pin before it forms the single shaft of that pin. The hallmarks on the pin cannot be read in this photo, but should represent a complete set of fineness mark, Egyptian silver mark, and a date hallmark. M. Laurencin & Cie, Alexandria:I have only seen one example attributed to this maker on an auction site, but the reverse of the badge is not illustrated. A November 2012 auction by La Galerie Numismatique (Lot 323) that is archived on the sixbid.com website identifies its offering as being in a case marked “M. Laurencin & Cie, Alexandrie, Egypte”. No information is provided in the auction description whether there is a manufacturer's mark on the reverse of this badge and no photographs are provided of the reverse. This is a silver example of the badge identified as measuring 112 mm high x 85 mm wide. The cased silver judicial badge attributed to M. Laurencin & Cie, of Alexandria from the November 2012 action by La Galerie Numismatique (Lot 323), archived on the Sixbid.com website (https://www.sixbid.com/browse.html?auction=515&category=11656&lot=539484). This badge is identified as measuring 112 mm high x 85 mm wide. I have not previously illustrated this badge. Although several internet sources and some published material suggest that the silver cat hallmark was only used from 1916-1946 to indicate Egyptian-made silver and then replaced with the lotus blossom mark, the precious metal hallmarks on the 1949 King Farouk I silver medal commemorating the closure of the Mixed Courts uses the cat hallmark for Egyptian silver. I do not yet know how to resolve some of these discrepancies in the temporal periods covered by the cat or lotus blossom silver hallmarks. Close up of the silver hallmarks on the lower left of the King Farouk I silver medal commemorating the termination of the Mixed Courts (from a September 2017 Auction by Stephen Album Rare coins : https://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=3018794&AucID=3079&Lot=1776&Val=7022a8a05524ba0ccff62c071a37a509&Match=1#match1). The high-resolution of the image of these silver hallmarks shows (L-R) the Cairo assay office fineness hallmark for 90% (900) silver, the cat hallmark for Egyptian silver, and the date hallmark for 1948-1949. Obverse (L) and reverse (R) of a different King Farouk I silver medal commemorating the end of the Mixed Courts from a May 2018 auction by Stephen Album Rare Coins arcoved on the icollector.com Online Collectibles Auctions website (http://www.icollector.com/EGYPT-Farouk-1936-1952-AR-medal-32-27g-1949-EF_i29825948). Unfortunately, I do not read Arabic, but some of the inscriptions on this medal are translated by Ahmed S. Kamel on his flickr site: https://www.flickr.com/photos/askamel/2377843795/in/photolist-5Wv6Q1-a7Qy7k-5LqeKv-a7QztZ-5XBeXa-5KYdKK-5XFv79-5XFvob-4C857P-5WqN1r-5XFuQd-4Q1dWa-5QeWGi-5XFqcC-5WqRyR-5XBfEH-5WqRnx-5WqShg-5QeW4a-5Wv7BN-5XBa1H-5XFoUU-5XFvNb-5WqNYg-5UqfKu-otnVUE-5XFpZW-a1e2so-5Wv6q3-5XBfKV-RXYNPw-WNEU4t-EgzCUc-Xr4u9u-qtAtnj-q8o8uw-qpVB9M-CE4mCr-Pwiqcw-2ccgjqU-2ccgiJJ-2ccgxXJ-R5X1c7-5XFpBE-5XBaEg-Hadd4j-q8wY58-pu3qeR-ovFS5q-ouRdoY. The inscription on the left side of the bust of King Farouk I on the obverse face reads: “King of Egypt”; on the right of the obverse it reads “Farouk I”. On the lower right below the bust of King Faoruk I is the medalist signature for Sadek Tewfik Bichay. On the reverse, the Arabic inscription on the right is not translated, but is probably a translation of the French inscription on the left of the medal: “FIN DU SYSTÉME JUDICIARE MIXTE”, as also seen on the stamp commemorating this event. The silver hallmarks on this example are not as easy to read, but they include (L-R) the Cairo assay office’s fineness hallmark for 900 silver, the Egyptian cat hallmark identifying Egyptian silver, and the date hallmark (which I cannot read). As noted in the exchange with annab on 3 June and 5 June, 2018 in this thread, the “S.T.B.” on the lower right is the medalist hallmark of Sadek Tewfik Bichay.
  4. Rusty Greaves

    Question about the Order of Ismail/Nishan al-Ismail

    922F, I am always most grateful for your profound knowledge about these Egyptian Orders I am trying to learn more about, as well as your information about a wide range of issues touching on my research. I'm interested to see they Worth hallmark and the form of their silver fineness hallmarks as well. Thanks for providing this information and the image! I have found a photo of a named example of a 4th Class Order of Ismail Knight's breast badge with some odd variation in the form of the royal crown suspension device compared with all other examples I have seen on the Knight's insignia, and with the form of the same crown suspension on sash badges of the Grand Cordon (1st Class), the neck badge of the Grand Officer (2nd Class), and the Commander's neck badge (3rd Class). This example belongs to a set of 13 medals awarded to Colonel B.H.S. Romilly, of the Scots Guard and the Egyptian Army Camel Corps, from an auction in a December 1991 sale by Buckland Dix & Wood, Auctioneers and Valuers, from the Uphill-Brown Collection (lot 219). He was Winston Churchill's brother-in-law. Among the medals in this lot are a 3rd Class neck badge of the Egyptian Order of the Nile, a 4th Class breast badge of the Ottoman Order of Osmanieh, 2 Sudan Campaign medals, and this 4th Class Order of Ismail. (From: https://archive.org/details/auctionofordersd00buck_1/page/8) Detail of the crown suspension device from the April 2017 Bukowskis auction of a 3rd Class Commander's neck badge for comparison with the Buckland Dix & Wood example below (from: ttps://www.bukowskis.com/en/lots/906427-the-order-of-ismail-nischan-al-ismail-22k-gold-lattes-in-kairo-1928-1928-weight-ca-47-g) This is unfortunately a low-resolution image of the Knight's breast badge from the Buckland Dix & Wood 1991 auction. No dimensions, manufacturer, or materials are identified for this badge. The ribbon on this example lacks its rosette, but the reason to include this illustration is the anomalous design on the royal crown suspension device. I have not seen an example like this on any other photos I have come across. Beginning at the inferior portion of the Buckland Dix & Wood crown: although it is not completely clear, the "interior" of the crown appears to lack the vertical relief lines normally present in this portion of the crown. The base of the crown above that has only 5 round red enamel ornamentations (quite uneven), not the blue (3) diamonds and red (4) ovals that normally alternate in this position, and it appears to lack the superior line on this band that forms the gold borders around the blue enamel diamond ornamentations. The line of gold bosses above this first band also is anomalous. The 4 red enamel triangles and central red diamond above the lowest band have 6 irregular green enamel ornaments superior to them in this BDW example. This entire panel of the crown contrasts markedly with the band of floral ornamentation relief surmounted by 5 blue & red stylized lotus blossoms with background red enamel creating contrast with the gold floral flourishes and the lotus blossoms, as seen in the uppermost comparison photos. The arches of the Buckland Dix & Wood crown are longer, than on all other examples, less curved, and have a greater number of gold bosses along some of the arches. Rather than exhibit a single boss on the central arch, the example above has at least 3. The "bulb" below the crescent and star also appears to be missing on the Buckland Dix & Wood Knight's badge. Overall, the crown shown above is much less well-executed with significant variation in the design elements and details of its ornamentation than any other genuine examples I have seen. The linkage between the superior central ray and the crown suspension device is quite different from other photos I have seen, however, there is some slight variation in the form of these linkages among some Knights' badges. The other elements of the badge appear within normal variation seen for the Knight's badge, but the quality of the photo makes it hard to determine whether the rayed & facetted silver embellishment may be less detailed than some of the Knights' badges I have illustrated on this thread (see the 2 illustrations on my post of 7 December, 2017;the 2 images on my post of 12 September, 2018; the 3rd photo of my 31 October 2018 post; the 4th photo of my 13 December, 2018 post; the 12th from last image of my post of 11 January, 2019; and the 1st image of my 21 February, 2019 post), or whether some of the gold work of the medallion margins may be less well-executed than the photos I've referenced here on this thread. The poorer workmanship and significant design differences in the crown suspension of this piece suggests a later addition or replacement with a less-skilled manufacture of the crown device.
  5. Rusty Greaves

    Question about the Order of Ismail/Nishan al-Ismail

    There is a recent published reference that includes ~16 pages on Egyptian hallmarks that may potentially be useful, but I have not yet been able to obtain it through my Uniperversity interlibrary loan system (they say it is too recent & specialized to be available yet): Danubia, V. Niklewicz, Lindy L. Matula, & William B. Whetstone (eds.) 2017. World Hallmarks: Vol II Asia, Middle East, Africa, With Additional Comments on Non-Hallmarking Regions (Gold, Silver, Platinum, Palladium Hallmarks). Hallmark Research Institute (published in the US, probably in San Francisco-where the Hallmark Research Institute is located, but I have not found the city of publication identified yet) ISBN-13: 978-0979762857 ISBN-10: 0979762855 (see: http://www.hallmarkresearch.com/html/BooksV2.htm) $228 new Azza Fahmy also has another book on Egyptian jewelry. I have not yet seen it and do not know if it has any additional hallmark data or other useful information: Azza Fahmy, 2015. The Traditional Jewelry of Egypt. The American University in Cairo Press, Cairo. ISBN-13: 9789774167201. ~$45-50 new
  6. Rusty Greaves

    Question about the Order of Ismail/Nishan al-Ismail

    922F, Many thanks for this additional information about hallmarks for monarchy in exile Orders. I can find a website for Royal Insignia out of Singapore and Brunei, but are you able to provide some information where I can learn something about Worth? Do you have any images of the hallmarks for any of these manufacturers? I have a couple variants of hallmarks to add here. Below are a few images of hallmarks on a cased set of the Grand Cordon Class of the Order of Ismail from an April 2018 auction by La Galerie Numismatique archived on the live auctioneer.com website (https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/60483636_order-of-ismail). This is a set made by Lattes. The sash badge is identified as measuring 62 mm wide x 82 mm high (the height must include the entire suspension loop) and the breast star measures 82 mm in diameter. This example has a couple of interesting aspects to its hallmarks. The hallmarks on the reverse of the suspension loop of the sash badge include only 2 of the 3 potential hallmarks. Although difficult to see in the lower-resolution of the images of the reverse the sash badge, the date mark ("B"=) can be seen but the other hallmark is likely to be the fineness mark of 18 carats. The hallmarks I illustrated previously include all 3 hallmarks on the reverse of the suspension loop of the two examples of the 3rd Class Commander's neck badge made by Lattes (last photo in my post here of 13 December, 2018; the 10th photo from the first showing hallmarks on examples of the Order of Ismail in my post of 11 January, 2019 which also includes what is the 14 carat European assay mark of "585"). On 11 January I also illustrated the reverse of the the suspension loop on the neck badge of a 2nd Class Grand Officer example belonging to Dr. Quirico (6th photo in the group of hallmarks on Order of Ismail insignia) made by Lattes that has only 2 hallmarks: the 18 carat fineness mark and the "Z" date mark for 1924-25. My 11 January post also shows another example of a Grand Cordon Class of the Order of Ismail made by Tewfik Bichay that is marked with only 2 hallmarks on the reverse of the suspension loop (the Cairo assay mark of 18 carats and the date hallmark), and that example also has only the same 2 hallmarks (both lacking the ibis denoting Egyptian gold manufacture) on the reverse of the central boss of the sash badge below Bichay's hallmark. The other interesting aspect of the Grand Cordon set from the April 2018 La Galerie Numismatique auction is that the date hallmarks on the sash badge and breast star are slightly different. The sash badge is marked "B"=1927-28 and the breast star is marked "C"=1928-29. Although overlapping, it is unclear why a probably matched set might have languished in the Cairo assay office so that each component of this set received different date hallmarks. I have included some additional images of this set as the auction listing has a pretty good photo documentation (moderately good resolution, they can be zoomed) of the sash badge and breast star. The Grand Cordon Order of Ismail cased set in the case marked J. Lattes from the April 2018 auction by La Galerie Numismatique and archived on the liveauctionees.com website (https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/60483636_order-of-ismail#&gid=1&pid=1). The same Grand Cordon set displayed on the sash (https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/60483636_order-of-ismail#&gid=1&pid=3). The sash badge of the same Grand Cordon set (https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/60483636_order-of-ismail#&gid=1&pid=4). Note the placement of the hallmarks on the right side of the attachments of the superior star ray to the royal crown, consistent with those seen on the examples I illustrated on 11 January. Reverse of the same sash badge (https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/60483636_order-of-ismail#&gid=1&pid=5) Close-up of the reverse of the suspension loop of the same sash badge (cropped from https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/60483636_order-of-ismail#&gid=1&pid=6) showing the presence of only the gold fineness hallmark (18 carat) and the date hallmark ("B"). This photo also shows the single 18 carat fineness mark on the reverse of the crown, as shown on the Lattes' examples of the Commanders' neck badges in my 11 January post and on the the Tewfik Bichay example of the Grand Cordon Class from Fall 2014 auction of Künker Münzauktionen und Goldhandelin in that same post. Close-up of the 3 hallmarks on the obverse right connecting link between the sash badge star and the crown suspension device on the same Grand Cordon sash badge (https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/60483636_order-of-ismail#&gid=1&pid=6). They show the worn condition of the Cairo assay mark for 18 carat gold, a worn ibis, and the date hallmark "B" for 1927-1928. The placement is identical to those shown in my 11 January post. Reverse of the central boss of the same sash badge showing the Latttes hallmark and the worn gold hallmarks: the Cairo assay mark of 18 carat gold, the ibis for Egyptian gold, and the date hallmark of "B" (https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/60483636_order-of-ismail#&gid=1&pid=7). Obverse of the breast star of this same set of the Grand Cordon Order of Ismail from the April 2018 auction by La Galerie Numismatique that is archived on the liveauctionees.com website (https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/60483636_order-of-ismail#&gid=1&pid=8). Reverse of one of the rays of the gold star of the breast star of the same Grand Cordon Order of Ismail showing the 3 hallmarks: the Cairo assay office mark for 18 carat gold, the ibis for Egyptian gold, and the date hallmark of "C"= 1928-1929. (https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/60483636_order-of-ismail#&gid=1&pid=9). As noted above, although the date hallmark overlaps with the "B" of the sash badge, it is interesting to see that (as long as these are part of the same Grand Cordon set) the hallmarking of this set occurred across the period that the date hallmark was being changed. I do not know which ray of the gold star is hallmarked on this example, as no image of a complete reverse view of this breast badge is provided in the auction listing. For the same reason, I cannot determine the location of the silver hallmarks on the rayed and facetted silver embellishment of this piece compared with examples I illustrated on 11 January. Below is a high resolution image of the crown suspension device on a 3rd Class Commander's neck badge from an April 2017 auction by Bukowskis (https://www.bukowskis.com/en/lots/906427-the-order-of-ismail-nischan-al-ismail-22k-gold-lattes-in-kairo-1928-1928-weight-ca-47-g). In this photo only the Cairo assay office hallmark for 18 carat gold and the ibis mark for Egyptian gold are visible on the right connecting link between the superior star ray and the crown suspension device. I've included this image mainly because the lighting in this particular photo provides excellent detail on the royal crown suspension device, despite either some damage or manufacturing flaws seen in the lower right "interior" of the crown, in addition to normal wear. High resolution close-up image of the "royal crown" design of the suspension device from an April 2017 Bukowskis auction of a 3rd Class Commander's neck badge of the Order of Ismail made by Lattes. The auction description gives the dimensions of the badge as 8.5 cm high (including the suspension loop) x 6 cm wide, and a weight of 47 g, consistent with other data on measurements and roughly similar to other given weights. It incorrectly identifies this piece as 22 carat gold, and mistakenly gives a date for the "D" hallmark visible on a picture of the reverse of the neck badge as 1928 ("1928-1928", so likely just a clerical error). The "D" data hallmarks indicates a date of 1929-1930. From my research on the Egyptian Mixed Courts judicial badges, my understanding is that the "princely crown" was used in royal Egyptian iconography, principally on royal shields and coats of arms, from 1854 until ~1922, and the "royal crown" form was used form 1923-1952. Obviously, these date distinctions are not strictly adhered to on the designs of several Egyptian Orders and medals Left=a form of the "princely crown", used from 1854-~1922; Right=design of the "royal crown" used from 1923-1952 (http://www.hubert-herald.nl/EgyptKingdom.htm). The royal crown form appears to be the basis for the design of the crown suspension device on the Order of Ismail. I noted on my 11 January, 2018 post under the 5th set of illustrations that there are some silver hallmarks showing 2 dots, rather than just 1, to the right of the Arabic "9" on some Egyptian silver indicating 900 silver rather than 90% as the fineness mark (both designations identifying the same silver content). Although I have only seen the "90" mark used as the silver fineness mark on the Order of Ismail, I found an illustration of the 900 silver mark that is illustrated below. Hallmarks on an Egyptian silver scalloped and footed bowl, identified in the auction description as from c.1982 (correctly). The hallmarks are the Cairo assay office 900 silver mark, the lotus for post-1946 Egyptian silver manufacture (? see below), and the Arabic date letter for 1982. From a 2013 auction by Seized Assets Auctioneers, archived on the liveaucitoneers.com website (https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/22604908_vintage-egyptian-silver-scalloped-footed-bowl-ciaro). An additional wrinkle in dating the use of the silver hallmark of the cat or lotus is shown in an illustration below from a commemorative medal struck in October 1949 to mark the termination of the Egyptian Mixed Courts and the unification of the Egyptian court system. The termination date of the Mixed Courts was 14 October, 1949. This King Farouk medal was issued in bronze and in silver. The silver hallmarks I have seen on images of this medal all show the cat mark (tail raised), that several sources indicate was in use only until 1946. An example of the silver King Farouk medal commemorating the end of the Mixed Courts system on 14 October 1949. The obverse of the medal is on the L and the reverse is on the R. From a May 2018 auction by Stephen Album Rare Coins (http://www.icollector.com/EGYPT-Farouk-1936-1952-AR-medal-32-27g-1949-EF_i29825948). Reverse of the same King Farouk I commemorative medal. The design overlapping the Scales of justice and extending to the right side of the medal is based on an Egyptian stamp issued on 14 October, 1949 commemorating this same event (if interested, please see my posts of 3 May, 2018 and 17 October, 2018 on the thread "Egypt Khedivate Judges Badge Question" started on 17 November, 2016 here in the Middle East and Arab States section). The silver hallmarks in the lower left show: (L-R) the Cairo assay office mark for 900 silver (90%), the cat hallmark identifying Egyptian silver, and the date letter that is very difficult to read (see the image of a different medal below with a readable date hallmark). The S.T.B. medallist signature mark on the lower right are for Sadek Tewfik Bichay, brother of Fahmy Tewfik Bichay. A close-up of a different example of the silver King Farouk I medal with better detail of the date hallmark for this medal, indicating a hallmark date of 1948-1949. This comes from a September 2017 auction by Stephen Album Rare Coins, formerly (but no longer) archived on the coinarchives.com website (https://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=3018794&AucID=3079&Lot=1776&Val=7022a8a05524ba0ccff62c071a37a509&Match=1#match1).
  7. Rusty Greaves

    Question about the Order of Ismail/Nishan al-Ismail

    Owain, thanks for your encouragement. I have spoken with the editor of JOMSA about one or more articles on some of this research and the only additionally significant time commitment would be obtaining permission from the many auction site images I am obliged to use to get some of the diversity of photographic material about the Order of Ismail. Unlike my anthropology work, I do not have the rights to any of these images. Again, I am most grateful to the staff at GMIC for providing this extensive and sophisticated forum that has allowed me to learn about these particular beautiful medals, and the knowledgeable and generous interested contributors here who have both helped and encouraged my own efforts at learning more about the Order of Ismail! I have a few contributions to follow up with on hallmarks related to the Order of Ismail. First, one correction: I misidentified the image of the gold hallmark on the eMedals Grand Cordon breast star in the the 5th from last image of my post of 11 January, 2019 as the "same Grand Officer's breast star", but it is an image from the same Grand Cordon breast star shown in the previous 3 images of that post. I particularly want to elaborate on the placement of the gold hallmark on the 4th Class Knight's breast badge. In my 11 January post, I provided one (of 3 illustrations of the Knight's badge) illustration of a Knight's breast badge showing the silver hallmark on the inferior central ray of the silver embellishment on this example from an eMedals auction of October 2017 (in the 13th & 14th images from last on that post). Unlike the Grand Cordon or Grand Officers' breast badges, no gold hallmarks are visible on the reverse of the gold rays of the five-pointed star of this badge nor on other examples of the reverse of the 4th Class insignia I have come across in my research. I recently fond a couple examples of the location of the gold hallmarks for the Knight's breast badge on the suspension ring. 4th Class Knight's breast badge of the Order of Ismail showing the 3 gold hallmarks on the right obverse portion of the suspension ring (~3:00 o'clock position). As noted below, the suspension ring is probably not fixed in place, so the visibility of the hallmarks depends on the movement of the ring. This is an example made by J. Lattes from an auction of June 2016 by Heritage Auctions (previously unsold from a December 2015 auction). The description identifies it as 58 mm wide (no height given), correctly indicates it is 18 carat gold, and is in it's original case. The fact that it lacks the ribbon makes the hallmarks visible, unlike most other examples I have seen where most of the suspension ring is obscured by the ribbon. The image (and close-up below) are not high enough resolution to allow me to read the hallmarks. Thanks to this image, I have been able to see the margins of these hallmarks on a few other photographs of the Knight's badge (for example, see both illustrations in my post on this thread of 7 December, 2017, the first showing the full set of 3 hallmarks and the second showing only the margin of one), but this is the best I have found thus far showing their position. From: https://historical.ha.com/itm/military-and-patriotic/foreign-wars/egyptian-order-of-ismail-by-lattes-of-cairo/a/6144-47429.s Close-up view of the same Knight's breast badge form the same cased Heritage Auctions' Lattes example (https://historical.ha.com/itm/military-and-patriotic/foreign-wars/egyptian-order-of-ismail-by-lattes-of-cairo/a/6144-47429.s) showing the location of the 3 Egyptian gold hallmarks. Not being able to examine any Kight's medals, I do not know if the suspension ring is free-to-move (as it appears to be in the images shown on my 11 January post of the first 2 images of the reverse of the eMedals example of the Knight's breast badge, again in the 13th & 14th images from last on that post) or fixed (probably not?). The location of the hallmarks is then likely probably dependent on the movement of the ring, not any predetermined portion of the movable suspension ring. Illustrations from the Egyptian Department of Hallmarks and Measures Archive (illustrated by Azza Fahmy in her 2007 book Enchanted Jewelry of Egypt: The Tradition and Craft, the American University of Cariro Press, Cairo, New York) does show that there are proper placements identified for a range of jewelry attachment hardware, in addition to hallmark locations specified for the body of different kinds and styles of jewelry made in Egypt. Azza Fahmy's book confirms that the first table of date hallmarks I posted on this thread on 12 September, 2018 is the correct table from the Egyptian Department of Hallmarks and Measures. I am illustrating her copy of this table below as it is slightly higher resolution than the example I posted from the I Nostra Avi website (posted 12 September), and addresses my questions about the tables referenced in the George C. Miles 1957 article and the eBay example I posted on 11 January, 2019. Fahmy notes (2007: pg 197) that the Egyptian Dept. of Hallmarks and Measures was established under Saladin (AD 1138-93), the marking of gold and silver purity was included in regulations created under Muhammad Ali in 1809, and laws regarding the hallmarking of jewelry were established in 1847. Relevant to the Order of Ismail, additional regulation the of hallmarks was done under Khedive Abbas Hilmi II in 1913. Fahmy also notes (pp 198, 200) a law issued under Sultan Hussein Kamel in 1916 that required all jewelers to hallmark their wares, and prohibited the sale of unhallmarked jewelry. That law also eliminated the 450 silver designation, especially for goods exported from Egypt (and the same restriction applied to 15 carat gold). Although redundant with some of the internet information I included about hallmarks on 11 January, Fahmy's illustrations are clearer, so I have included some here. These are high resolution images from her book and can be zoomed. Table of letters used to from the Egyptian Department of Hallmarks and Measures Archives, illustrated by Azza Fahmy on pg 199 of her 2007 volume: Enchanted Jewelry of Egypt: The Tradition and Craft. This higher resolution version of this table than the table I posted on 12 September, 2018. Fahey notes (pg 201) that Arabic letters were used as date hallmarks from 1940 onwards and that after 1949 (until 1967) the letters changed every 2 years (rather than the previous practice of changing them each year). When the war between Egypt and Israel occurred in 1967, Egypt stopped importing the steel pens used to trace hallmarks on jewelry from England until 1974 in order to conserve their reserves of foreign currency. Gold hallmarks from illustrations in the Fahmy 2007 book: Above L= the ibis symbol identifying gold jewelry from Egypt (pg 201); Above R=hallmarks identifying the number of carats of gold jewelry (pg 198), from top to bottom: 23.5 carats, 21 carats, 18 carats, 15 carats (unlike the information I posted on 11 January, Fahmy identifies 15 rather than 14 carats for this gold hallmark), and 12 carats, all identifying Cairo as the hallmark office; Below center=an alternative hallmark for 23.5 carat gold hallmark without any assay office mark. Egyptian silver hallmarks from illustrations in the Fahmy 2007 book (page 200): L= top to bottom: the lotus hallmark indicating silver, the most common form of the cat hallmark with its tail raised (seen on all photographs I have seen showing hallmarks for the Order of Ismail, as well as the Egyptian Mixed Courts judges badge I have been researching), and a variant of the cat hallmark for silver with its tail lowered and shown here with the fineness 900 mark (although the previous information I posted on indicates the lotus is a post-1946 Egyptian silver hallmark and the cat was used from 1916-1946, Fahmy does not identify these date distinctions, and she may erroneously indicate 1940 as the date for the establishment of the block hallmark (leftmost) to indicate the type of precious metal); R=table of Egyptian silver hallmarks by region with date hallmarks of 1965-1967 or 1968-1974. 20th century document (1965-1967 or 1968-1974?) from the Egyptian Department of Hallmarks and Measures Archive showing Egyptian gold hallmark (ibis) and carat hallmarks (from Fahmy 2007 pg 202) 20th century document (1965-1967 or 1968-1974?) from the Egyptian Department of Hallmarks and Measures Archive showing Egyptian silver hallmark (lotus) and silver fineness hallmarks (from Fahmy 2007 pg 203). In the interest of including some information on hallmarks that may be relevant to any monarchy in exile versions of the Order of Ismail (see http://elm.com.sg and the post by Markus that he started on 28 November, 2018 in his thread "Interesting Egyptian orders in Spink Auction" here in the Middle East and Arab States section, showing 2 Order of Ismail insignia from the 1920s and two monarchy in exile awards: an Order of Light [Nishan al-Noor] and an Order of Mohammad Ali, although no hallmark information is present in the auction description other than the statement that they have the seal of King Fuad II and the unspecified maker's name), I am illustrating an example of the medallist ELM from Singapore's hallmarks. I cannot find examples on any Orders or other analogous awards, but there is a robust interest and internet documentation of runners' medals designed by ELM for various races around the world. ELM medals are apparently recognized as superior craftsmanship among race medal collectors (participants), and are well-illustrated. The best example that I could find showing the 2 ELM hallmarks is illustrated in the second set of photos below. Illustration from the former initial website page of ELM medal makers who manufacture the monarchy in exile issue of the Order of Ismail (from: https://instarix.com/p/1449052170103257288_4325996166#). This illustration shows the breast badge in the correct orientation. The current 50th Anniversary ELM home page has a rotating set of illustrations that begins with the Order of Ismail oriented incorrectly with the superior portion of the badge to the left (http://elm.com.sg). The current English website for ELM does not appear to have a gallery. However, the French language ELM website does illustrate several different world Orders they manufacture, including the Egyptian monarchy in exile versions of the Order of Ismail and the Order of Mohammad Ali (http://elm.com.sg/fr/orders-decorations-medals/orders-decorations/). An ELM of Singapore medal for the 2015 1st ELM Medal Race: West Coast Mazda Run from the SG Runners.com website http://www.sgrunners.com/forum/index.php?/topic/19149-medal-hunters-united-list-of-elm-medal-races/&page=5). This high resolution image can be zoomed to see the 2 ELM hallmarks on the ribbon suspension. In this example, the left illustration is the obverse and has the "ELM" hallmark. On the right is the reverse with the "www.elm.com.sg" hallmark. The placement of these hallmarks is principally on the ribbon suspension, but the side of the suspension with each hallmark is variable on some illustrated examples, and a few have hallmarks on the body of the medal. I do not know if these same hallmarks are used on awards such as the monarchy in exile version of the Order of Ismail nor what precious metal hallmarks may also be present. As noted above, the Spink auction examples of the monarchy in exile awards of the Order of Light and the Order of Mohammed Ali also are marked with the "seal" (cipher?) of King Fuad II.
  8. I have no experience ordering anything from Falera-et-Orbis.com, however the website has had available the following highly incorrect alleged "Egyptian Order of Ismail" (single example or multiple "in stock" examples?), identified as a Commander Class neck badge (but possibly supposed to be a miniature of this Order) available ("in stock") at the very high price of 1500€ for greater than 1 year when I first came across it (https://www.falera-et-orbis.com/svetovna-odlikovanja/egypt?product_id=345). This piece bears only cartoon resemblance to the full-sized design of this award. While ~500-1000€ is the top estimated auction price I have seen for some of the few available correctly configured miniatures of the Order of Ismail (see: https://www.coins-la-galerie-numismatique.com/auction-33/order-ismail-1) , 2 genuine miniatures sold in an October 2018 auction of La Galerie Numismatique archived onto Sixbid.com website sold for 120-140€ (https://www.sixbid.com/browse.html?auction=5367&category=168960). The item on the Falera-et-Orbis.com website is a very strange interpretation of the design of this Order based very roughly on the sash badge (Grand Cordon) or neck badge (Grand Officer or Commander Classes) of the Order of Ismail. "EGYPT, KINGDOM. RARE ORDER OF ISMAIL 3RD CLASS, COMMANDER Silver, gilt, enamel - all in excellent condition!.. 1,500.00€" From: https://www.falera-et-orbis.com/svetovna-odlikovanja/egypt?product_id=345
  9. Rusty Greaves

    Egypt Khedivate Judge's Badge question

    Below is a cased Egyptian Mixed Courts judges' badge from a 2015 auction by Clark Auction Gallery in Larchmont, NY (USA) that is archived on the LiveAuctioneers website (https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/38904932_silver-froment-meurice-egyptian-badge). The set includes a cased judges' badge made by Froment-Meurice. The badges is thought to have been used in Alexandria, possibly because of the studio name on one of the 2 photos of an Egyptian national wearing judicial regalia that includes judicial sash and badge, a tunic, and fez that was part of this auction lot. One of the 2 photos (both are the same portrait) has the following inscription on the reverse: "Artistival Photographs Haure/No 1. Gordon Pacha Street/Alexandria Egypt". This set came from an estate in Westchester, NY (USA). It is unclear if there is an association between the studio photograph of a Native judge and this silver badge. In combination with some other photographic information I've posted here, it may suggest that the Native Courts' badge also was usually silver, as was the badge for the prosecutor's office, the Parquet. An unusual medal or badge is included with this auction lot that may be a fantasy piece or some other medal (non-Egyptian probably) that I cannot identify with my limited knowledge. Above is the silver judicial badge in its case Above is an image of the obverse face of this silver badge. This badge is identified as measuring 3.5 " wide x 4.5 " high (76 mm wide x 114 mm high) and the wring tis given as 5.44 troy oz. The reverse of this silver judges badge. There appears to be a single silver hallmark (most likely the fineness mark) on the tunic pin close to the proximal bifurcation of the pin near the hinge. The "FROMENT-MEURICE" manufacturer's hallmark is visible above he bosses holding the obverse tablet wit the enamel inscription to the back portion of the badge. Close-up view of the "FROMENT-MEURICE" hallmark on the reverse this badge. The inscription on the inside of the upper lid of the case for this judicial badge with the inscription: "FROMENT-MEURICE; 372.RUE ST. HONORÉ; PARIS". This the same address than that is embossed on the red silk lining of the dark blue case for the silver parquet badge of the Greek judge on the Parquet, Judge Apostolo N. Gennaropoulo (from a 2014 eBay auction), shown in the last photo of my post of March 24, 2017 on this thread. However, it is different from the address in the red silk & velvet lined red case for a silver judges' badge made by Froment-Meurice from a June 2018 eMedals auction which reads ""FROMENT-MEURICE; 46.RUE D'ANJOU; PARIS" (badge and case shown in the first 5 photos of my post of 23 July 2018 on this thread). I do not know if these different addresses might indicate a move of the Froment-Meurice workshops that could be of any use in dating such badges (in the absence of better images of the date hallmarks that some of these piece may have). The 2 studio photos of a judge wearing the judicial sash, judicial badge, long tunic, and fez behind the obverse of this silver Mixed Courts' judicial badge. The portraits appear to show an Egyptian Native judge. The image is not high-enough resolution to determine if the judicial sash is bicolored or only a single color. However, the lower portion of the sash does appear darker in both photos than the upper half of the sash, similar to the sashes of the Republic period judges shown in the 4th and 5th photos of my post of 12 September, 2018, on the hand-tinted image in my 1st photo on the post of 5 November, 2018, and in a reversed orientation of the darker and lighter colors on the Republic judges shown in the 1st, 2nd, & 3rd photos of my October 31, 2018 post, all on this thread. The studio name given from the back of one of these photos is: "Artistival Photographs Haure/No 1. Gordon Pacha Street/Alexandria Egypt". Photograph of the full lot from the main auction listing. Note the medal in the center foreground that I cannot identify (see image below) and its case on the lower R . Obverse of an unidentified medal included with this auction lot. I cannot recognize if this is any kind of genuine award, but perhaps other learned individuals here can share an opinion. It appears likely it could be some kind of unofficial or fantasy piece. The ribbon resembles the red with green stripes of the Moroccan Order of the Throne (Wisam al-Arch). The reverse this medal is mostly plain, but there may be a possible marking on the upper arm of the cross that might be slightly visible in the low-resolution image of the reverse.
  10. Rusty Greaves

    Question about the Collar of Hanedan

    Many thanks for posting this museum image Carol 1, this helps resolve the discrepancies in the reported number of links in the collar. The example you illustrate has 18 larger links in the collar, + the special central link for the suspension device, and 18 of the smaller links with the 6-rayed star=37 links in total.
  11. Rusty Greaves

    Question about the Collar of Hanedan

    Below are two good illustrations of the the Collar of Hanedani, although they are not very high resolution images and some aspect of the design of the neck badge are still unclear in these photos. The above illustration is from the Stephen Patterson reference that Elmar Lang provided. As Enzo noted, this is from Patterson, Stephen, 1996. Royal Insignia: British and Foreign Orders of Chivalry from the Royal Collection. Merrell Holberton Publishers, London. This may be the example presented to King Edward VII. The Royal Collection Identification Number is RCIN 441555a & b. The text description of the collar is on pg 162, and the above image is on pg 167. The text in Patterson calls this the Collar of the Order of Al Handedani, it is in its presentation case. Although the collar is not fully pictured in this photo, the description identifies 18 larger links that are hollow, gold with red and white enamel decorated with the crescent moon and (five-armed) star symbolism. Between these main links are another 19 smaller links of gold with red and white enamel, each ornamented with a 6-armed star. The central link of the collar that is the attachment for suspending the neck badge is the same size & shape of the larger links, but is ornamented with an oval surmounted by the Sultan's turban. I do not know what the imagery in the center of the white oval is, unless it is a variant of the "Ottoman Sun" motif. The reverse of all links is identified as plain. The collar is 695 mm in length x 18 mm wide. The pendant badge is gold with red, white, and yellow enamel. The central medallion is surrounded by a white laurel wreath on the inferior half, joineded in the center with a yellow enameled “wrap”. The superior margin of the pendant medallion is surrounded with a white enameled ribbon with a yellow “daisy” ornament in the middle. The central medallion is ornamented with the imperial Tughra of Abdul Hamid II surrounded by a red enamel border with the dates 699 AH (=AD 1299, the date of the founding of the Ottoman Empire) on the inferior margin and 1311 AH =AD 1893, the date the award was established by Sultan Abdul Hamid II) on the superior margin. There is a small relief ornamentaion that appears to be a band with a central medallion to the left of both dates on the margin of frame of the central medallion. None of the images I of the neck badge I have seen are high enough resolution to more precisely identify this element. I have not yet found any translation of the inscriptions above and below the Tughra. The suspension device is a gold and white enamel crescent moon and star. The badge could be worn attached either to to the collar, or worn at the neck suspended from the red and white ribbon by the gold and enamel clip (it appears it was occasionally worn suspended from the clip without the use of the red & white ribbon) that is decorated with the crescent moon and star designs(as 5 individual elements) as seen on the collar links (shown resting on the ribbon; this is the attachment shown in the first image of Khedive Abbas Hilmi II wearing the Collar on my 16 January post here and by Osman Fuad in the last picture of my post from 18 January, both without use of the ribbon). The pendant badge is identified as 50 mm wide x 83 mm high. The above photo of the Collar of Order of Hanedani Ali Osman Nishani (translated as: Order of the Illustrious Ottoman Dynasty) is from a December, 2008 auction by Mortan & Eden in association with Sothebys (http://www.mortonandeden.com/pdfcats/36web.pdf). This auction listing identifies that this Order only has one class of the award, this Collar. The description identifies the Collar as consisting of 28 links (unlike the total of 37 identified in the Patterson description above), in gold with red and white enamel, alternating star-and-crescent and six-pointed star links The gold ring at the top of the image is identified as the "gold central ring for carrying the gold and enamelled collar badge". However, that ring appears to simply be the closure for the Collar, and the central link with the oval and Sultan's turban is missing from this example.The auction description does note that the collar is "detached in six places but with all links present", however the number of links is not in agreement with the Patterson description and the central attachment link is clearly missing. The alternate suspension clip is pictured above the neck badge. The neck badge is described as having a gold centre with the Tughra of Abdul Hamid II, and the the dates AH 699 (AD 1299) and AH 1311 (AD 1895). It is identified as measuring 44 mm wide x 72 mm high. These dimensions do not match well with those given for the Royal Collection example above. This example is stated to be in a case, custom-made by Spink and Son Ltd (not original?). The description notes that the Order of Hanedani Ali Osman Nishani was exclusively awarded to members of the Ottoman Imperial Family and for foreign Royalty (with the single exception of the Grand Vizier Tewfik Pasha), and was awarded on a total of only 50 occasions. The auction listing estimate for the sale of this item in 2008 was between £30,000-50,000.
  12. Rusty Greaves

    Miniatures of the Middle East & Arab World

    I am including images of several miniatures of the Ottoman Order of Osmanieh and the Order of Medjidie, mostly from past auction on the eMedals website. These show some of the variation in form and execution of these miniatures. Below are a few illustrations of a miniature Ottoman Order of Osmanieh from the Medal-Medaille website (http://www.medal-medaille.com/sold/product_info.php?cPath=499_461&products_id=719). The listing identifies this piece as having a diameter of 19 mm. The rosette without galon indicates it is the 4th Class of this award. No manufacturer identified. Above are 3 images of the obverse of this miniature of the Order of Osmanieh. Above are 2 images of the reverse of this miniature order of Osmanieh Above are 2 images detailing the suspension device of this same medal (upper=obverse; lower=reverse) Below are a few images of another miniature of the Order of Osmanieh from a past eMedals auction (https://www.emedals.com/a-fine-miniature-turkish-order-of-osmania-osmanli). This example is identified in the auction description as made of silver, with red and green enamel and measuring 18.5 mm wide x 26.5 mm high (including the crescent and star suspension device). No manufacturer is specified. Obverse of this miniature of the Order of Osmanieh. Oblique obverse of this miniature of the Order of Osmanieh showing additional design details. Reverse image of this miniature of the Order of Osmanieh. Oblique obverse view of this miniature of the Order of Osmanieh showing more detailed design aspects. Below are a few images of two turkish miniatures, an Order of Medjidie and an Order of Osmanieh, from a miniature 1870 Franco-Priussiona War era chain of 8 miniature medals. The auction description identifies the medals as (R to L): "Iron Cross 1870, crisp details, 14mm, non-magnetic; Order of Hohenzollern with Swords, in silver, crown in Gold, 16x26mm; Saxon Duchies, Ernestine Order, breast star, in silver, center in Gold and enamels, 17.5mm; Saxon Duchies, Ernestine Order, in Gold and enamels, 14x21mm; 1870-71 Franco-Prussian War medal, bronze; 1866 Campaign Cross, bronze; Turkey, Order of Osmania (Osmanli), breast star...; Order of Medjidie (Mecidiye), breast star..." The miniatures are mounted on a gilt chain that is 19 mm long. From a pair eMedals auction: (https://www.emedals.com/an-1870-franco-prussian-war-period-miniature-award-chain) Obverse of a miniature Order of Mejidie (far L) and a miniature Order of Osmanieh. The Order of Medjidie is identified as 19 mm in diameter and made of silver with the central medallion made of gold and enamel. The Order of Osmanieh is 20 mm in diameters and also made of silver with the central medallion made of gold and enamel. The form of the Order of Osmanieh indicates it represents either a 1st or 2nd Class version of this award. No manufacturer is identified for wither of the Ottoman miniatures. Reverse of the same medals on this chain, from R to L are the Order of Mejidie and the Order of Osmanieh. Obverse of the complete miniature set of miniature medals on this chain. Below are a few photos of another miniature chain from a past eMedals auction (https://www.emedals.com/a-late-19th-century-diplomatic-miniature-set-in-gold-eu7183). This group of 8 miniatures is identified as a late 19th century diplomatic miniature set in gold, mounted on a solid gold chain. The medals are identified as: "Bavaria, Order of the Crown, in Gold and enamels, 14x21mm, hallmark of Vince Mayer, Vienna, on the ring, along with Austrian Imperial 18Kt. Gold hallmark; Turkey, Order of Mecidie,...; Saxon Duchies, Ernestine House Order, in Gold and enamels, 15x23mm; Austria, Order of the Iron Crown, in Gold and enamels, 11x21mm; Austria, Franz Joseph Order, in Gold and enamels; Turkey, Order of Osmania, silver, gold and enamels (reverse center missing); Prussia, Order of the Crown, in gilt and enamels; Russia, Order of St. Anne, in Gold and enamels, 12x12mm. Generally very fine to extremely fine condition, circa 1900, of very fine quality manufacture." Above is a view of the obverse of the Order of Osmaieh (3rd from L) miniature on this chain. The Order of Osmanieh is identified as made from silver, gold, and enamels (the reverse center is stated to be missing) . No dimensions are given for this miniature and no manufacturer is specified. Above is the obverse of the miniature Order of Medjidie (2nd from R) on this chain. The Order of Medjidie is identified as made of silver with the central medallion in gold and enamels. No dimensions are given for this miniature and no manufacturer is identified. Above is the reverse of the miniature Order of Medjidie (2nd from L) on this chain. An oblique view of the obverse of the Order of Medjidie (2nd from R) on this chain. Above is the complete set of miniature medals on this chain. Below are a couple photos of a miniature Order of Medjidie on another chain of 6 miniatures, identified as a diplomatic set, from a past eMedals auction (https://www.emedals.com/an-early-attractive-diplomatic-miniature-chain-in-gold-eu7104). The auction description identifies the set as: "Prussian, Order of Red Eagle, in Gold and enamels (13x16mm); Sweden, Order of the Sword, in Gold and enamels; Spain, Order of Isabella the Catholic, in Gold and enamels (14x22mm); Greece, Order of Redeemer, in Gold and enamels; Turkey, Order of Medjidie (Mecidiye), in Silver, center in Gold (13x19mm); France, Order of Legion of Honor, in silver and enamels, center in gold; of fine quality manufacture, in worn condition, generally in very fine condition." Obverse of the miniature Order of Medjidie (2nd from L) from this chain (and all the other 6 miniatures). The Order of Medjidie is identified as made of silver with the central medallion made of and measuring 13 mm wide by 19 mm high. Reverse of the miniature Order of Medjidie (2nd from R) from this chain (and all the other 6 miniatures). Oblique view of the miniature Order of Medjidie (2nd from L) from this chain (and all the other 6 miniatures). Below is an image of a miniature Order of Medjidie from a mounted set of 9 miniatures on an archived past eMedals auction (https://www.emedals.com/group-of-nine-miniatures-gb0476). This miniature of the Order of Medjidie (far L) it is next to miniatures of the Egyptian Khedive Star and the Egyptian Khedive's Sudan Meda. TheOrder of Medjidie is identifies as made of silver and enamel and measuring 9.5 mm wide x 27 mm high. No manufacturer is identified for this medal. Below is another miniature Order of Medjidie in a group of miniatures from a past eMedals auction (https://www.emedals.com/a-fine-victorian-miniature-group-of-four-gb2515). This set is identified as a Victorian period miniature group on a bar that includes: "Indian Mutiny Medal (silver, 17.4 mm); Crimea Medal, 4 Clasps - ALMA, BALAKLAVA, INKERMANN, SEBASTOPOL (silver, 17.5 mm); Turkey: Order of Medjidie ...; and Turkey: Crimea Medal (silver, 17.5 mm). All period strikings, original ribbons, mounted to a period silver suspension bar with swingbar pinback, marked "HUNT ROSKILL", as worn by the veteran, light contact, near extremely fine. Footnote: Frederick Alexander Campbell Kane was commissioned into the Bombay Infantry in 1840. He was promoted to Captain on November 15, 1853, promoted to Brevet Major on December 12, 1854 and retired as a Major on December 31, 1861. Kane served in the Crimea (1854-1856) and during the Indian Mutiny (1857-1858)." Obverse of the miniature order of Medjidie (2nd from R) and the other 3 miniatures on this bar, the Order of Medjidie is made of silver and enamels and measuring 18.3 mm wide x 25.5 mm high. No manufacturer is identified. Reverse of this miniature order of Medjidie (2nd from L) and the other 3 miniatures on this bar. Oblique view of the obverse of the miniature order of Medjidie (2nd from R) and the other 3 miniatures on this bar. Oblique detailed image of the obverse of this same miniature order of Medjidie Below is another miniature Order of Medjidie from a past eMedals auction (https://www.emedals.com/a-miniature-turkish-order-of-medjidie-german-made-eu8335). It is identified as made from silver and enamel, no dimensions provided. This miniature is stated to be of German manufacture, but no specific maker is identified in the auction description. Obverse of this miniature Order of Medjidie Reverse of the same miniature Order of Medjidie Below is another miniature Order of Medjidie from a past eMedals auction (https://www.emedals.com/a-miniature-turkish-order-of-medjidie-mecidiye). It is identified as 2-piece construction, made from silver and enamel, it measures 16.2 mm wide x 22.5 mm high (including all of the crescent & star suspension device). This example is stated to probably be of German manufacture (because of the high quality manufacture and finer design details), although no maker is identified. Obverse of this miniature Order of Medjidie Reverse of the same miniature Order of Medjidie Below are 3 photos of another miniature Order of Medjidie from a past eMedlas auction (https://www.emedals.com/a-fine-miniature-turkish-order-of-medjidie). This example shows much more abbreviated and less detailed execution. The auction description identifies this piece as German-made (no manufacturers is identified), it is made of silver and the central medallion and the the suspension device are in gold and enamel, it measures 20 mm wide by x 28 mm high. Obverse of this miniature Order of Medjidie Detailed view of the obverse of this miniature Order of Medjidie, showing the very abbreviated form of the design elements in the gold and enamel central medallion of this example Reverse of this same miniature Order of Medjidie Below are 4 photos of a another miniature Order of Medjidie from a past eMedals auction (https://www.emedals.com/a-miniature-turkish-order-of-medjidie-mecidiye-65360). This example is identified as probably of German manufacture and of extremely high quality, again with good design details on this piece. It is made of silver with gold with red enamel. This miniature measures 17.3 mm wide x 26 mm high, inclusive of its gold and red enameled crescent & star suspension device. Obverse of this miniature Order of Medjidie Oblique obverse of this miniature Order of Medjidie showing additional design details Reverse of this miniature Order of Medjidie Oblique reverse image of this same miniature Order of Medjidie Below are images of two much less-detailed and worn miniature examples of the Order of Osmanieh and the Order of Medjidie from a past eMedals auction (https://www.emedals.com/turkey-two-ottoman-empire-miniature-orders). The Order of Medjidie miniature is silver but the entire center medallion is damaged and it is missing all of its enamel design. It measures 14mm, in diameter. The miniature Order of Osmanieh is made of silver and enamel with some damage to the obverse face, lacks the lacking reverse center, and measures 14 mm in diameter. Obverse of these 2 miniatures, Order of Osmanieh is on the L and the Order of Medjidie is on the R Reverse of these 2 miniatures, Order of Osmanieh is on the L and the Order of Medjidie is on the R Oblique image of the obverse of this miniature Order of Osmanieh Oblique image of the obverse of this damaged miniature Order of Medjidie Oblique image of the obverse of this miniature Order of Osmanieh
  13. Rusty Greaves

    Question about the Collar of Hanedan

    Elmer (Enzo), many thanks for the reference for the Collar of Hanedan. I apologize for my ignorance of some standard phaleritsics reference materials, I am an avocational researcher in this field and not a collector. My university library has the Patterson volume and I will borrow it this weekend. Cheers, Rusty While I wait to get that information to post here, I've added another couple images of the Collar of Hanedan. The first image shows the Collar of Hanedan worn by Ahmed Nihad, 38th head of the Imperial House of Osman, 1944-1954, as well as the neck badge of the Order of Imtiaz and the breast stars probably for the Order of Osmanieh and Order of Medjidie. From: https://www.reddit.com/r/Kaiserreich/comments/8edxkw/ahmed_nihad_should_be_the_leader_of_the_ottomans/ And below is relatively low-resolution image of Osman Fuad, 39th head of the Imperial House of Osman, 1954-1973 showing Prince Fuad wearing the Collar of Hanedan with the alternate suspension device as seen in the first image of Khedive Abbas Hilmi II in my previous post, along with his other awards. From: https://www.denizler.org/urun/614944/sehzade-osman-fuad-im
  14. Rusty Greaves

    Help with Egyptian Khedive medal

  15. Rusty Greaves

    Egyptian Khedive commemorative medal question

    Below are two very high-resolution images of the Khedive Abbas Hilmi II commemorative medal from an archived auction by Dix Noonan Webb (https://www.dnw.co.uk/auction-archive/lot-archive/lot.php?department=Medallions&lot_id=224096). The images provide even better detail than those I posted in the first 2 photos of 22 July, 2018. The lighting is a bit different and picks up a greater amount of detail of the design elements than on the previous best images from that 22 July post (including the reverse inscription in Arabic). Both of these images can be zoomed to see greater details of both faces of this medal (as can the slightly less detailed images from the eBay example I posted on 22 July). The wear patterns and some stains visible in these images are extremely similar to those in the eBay example I illustrated on 22 July. This is especially true of the rubbing on the reverse affecting the foreground mosque dome, the scarab on the lower left, and the scarab on the lower right. Some stains, nicks, and scratches on the superior star on the crescent of the Princely Crown of the obverse also are very similar to those visible in the previous post. This may be the same medal as that from the July, 2018 eBay auction. These images are from an archived 6 December, 2012 DNW auction (lot 1338) listing that correctly identifies the medallist as Massonnet, although the description identifies the editeur as "A. Massonnet", possible the same error I noted in the listing of "Massonnet, Avers." for the medallist on the Very Important Lot auction listing I posted on 2 October, 2018 that is a mistaken reference to the obverse face. I have only seen C. [Charles] Massonnet identified by name from this family of medal designers and die engravers in Paris. Although, as noted in my post of 28 April, 2018, it is most likely that a son of Charles Massonnet was the editeur of this medal as the name "C. Massonnet et Fils" appears on an 1855 copper (the first instance I have identified), which would make C. Massonnet, the father, quite a bit older when this medal was designed, probably in 1910. The auction description gives a single dimension as 67 mm, which is the same as that provided for the examples I illustrated here on 9 December, 2017 from a 2015 auction by La Galerie Numismatique archived on the sixbid.com website and on the V.I.L. example I posted here on 2 October, 2018 from a May, 2018 auction. This example was in its original worn case (like the case Illustrated on 22 July, 2018, the Dix Noonan Webb auction description for this piece specifically states that the inscription on the lid is "much faded") and sold for £620 in 2012. Obverse Reverse I am assembling some information on the two events this medal commemorates, the coronation of Abbas Hilmi II in 1892 and his return from the pilgrimage to Mecca in 1909. I hope to post that background in my next post on this thread.
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