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  1. Russian cosack uniform

    Well i couldnt resist not to correct history unjustice and make small improvements.... I am sure that now this painting is finally finish according to Grigorii Ivanovich Samoilov real will, which is to give tribute to his ancestors, family and great heroes of Russian Imperial White army. No more dilemmas.
  2. Russian cosack uniform

    Артист: Григории Иванович Самоилов hi egorka, you are right very interesting, i looked hat closely, looks like star by shape but its not, also its not washed, inscription with pencil is in serbian and it says " to Mile (name) for the memory on , than lower i cant read exactly because of border of frame but it looks like war (рат- serbian воина). I would say dthat all this togethwr with budoni march is some later inscription. I will open frame and see more exactly. Pls could you try to read on wikipedia about grigorije samojlov. He was cosack, emigrant, finished architecture, in ww2 as member of Yugoslavian royalist army in german camp, than he returned to yugoslavia. Before ww2 he made projected russian emigrants chapel , than projected several churches even in camp he made church with ikonostas which is now protected by unesco. I doubt that this work is some cosack before ww2, but when he returned he was maybe afraid of communists and added this lebedev kumach text, and inscription in serbian with pencil!? Really strange. Maybe pencil inscription is not his. Later when ww2 finished he started to work on руски дом , in cimmunist period soviet cultural centre and he was the author of soviet amblem which is put in communist period. Also after ww2 he continued to work on big projects , like building of techincal faculties etc. He was clearly anti comunist but after ww2 he started to cooperate and he lived in yugoslavia without problems ( contrary to many other russian emigrants). I ll open the frame and tell you tomorrow whats the exact pencil inscription. But everything is very strange, best https://sr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Григорије_Самојлов born in Tangarog in rich cosack family on the coast of Azov see
  3. Russian cosack uniform

    I found interesting aquarelle from done by Russian emigrant Grigoriy Ivanovic Samoylov, who lived in Kingdom Yugoslavia after revolution. It shows cossack in uniform on horse. Does anyone recognise uniform and polk which uniform belongs? Is this scene from the revolution, ww1 or earlier? Any info would be welcome Артист: Григории Иванович Самоилов
  4. Thx for help, i will exchange montenegrin heroism with silver bravery medal 85, when you have time pls post photo of general Franasovic, would be nice to see his bar and orders which he get. Best
  5. Yes regarding medal for geroism you could be right, and also might have logic to put instead montenegrin heroism (kolajna) silver bravery 85-86, it will look aligned and it has suspended ring. Idea to put montenegrin medal for heroism i took actually from the bar presented in Muhic/Car book, which you mentioned. But my biggest dilema are positions 3),4),5). Look at the hight of the loops (zakacaljjki) and allignment in this option. It doesnt look well. That was the reason why i am sure that on position 3) is takovo5th, position 4) golden bravery and position 5) despite ita not according to rules (should be on the end of the bar) i choose red cross
  6. Regarding medal of king peter, also what tells me that maybe this is not option is the period of the active service of that officer, it would mean that he was active for over 40 yrs of service, maybe too long period
  7. Since you mentioned general Dragutin Franasovic, see this one and btw do you have his original photo? And this regarding barbi absolutely agree with you about regulations you mentioned and how they didnt stick to them, but when you put as you mentioned silver serbian bravery - kolajna then you dont have line below, hope you understand what i mean, which is also showing sime kind of correctness of order of medals and orders . Could you please post a photo and bar od General D Franasovic? Look at this option
  8. Thx Pajo, 1) and 2) i agree with you, postiton 3 and 4 with takovo crosses 4 and 5 are a bit too much , together with takovo cross with swords would result in 3 takovo crosses on bar. Not many seen like that, maybe on positions 3), 4), 5) are: takovo cross 5th, golden bravery 77, red cross of prinicality serbia ( same ribbon as prevoous two). On the position 7) after montenegrin bravery medal can not go serbian silver bravery 76,77-78, based on rules, this one should go after golden bravery 77, but in any case before foreign - montenegrin bravery medal. Regarding position 8) rule and order was to put it immediately after the orders so not likely from my opininon, but i was also thinking about that option too
  9. And with montenegrin medals What is the order/medal on position 5 from left? Are the positions 6 and 7 from left for montenegrin medals as i put on photos? If not, what should go on positions 6 and 7?
  10. Here is an interested bar, unfortunatelly found without orders. Obviousely it belonged to highest ranked officer, i am trying to reconstruct it for a while, but i am not sure of combination of orders and medals. We can try to do it together. For those medals and orders which are attached on the bar on this picture i am pretty much sure that itbis correct. The order of orders and medals which i guess its correct, from left to right: 1) white eagle order 4or 5 class with monogram- obrenovic period 2) unkown - but i guess takovo cross order with swords 4th class 3)takovo cross 5th class 4) unknown- but i guess golden bravery medal from 1877 5) unkown - 6) unkown - possibly montenegro silver medal for bravery or medal of proclamation of kingdom 1882 ( less probably) 7) umkown - possibly montenegro medal for courage 1862 8) medal on entering constitution in force 1894 9) military virtues 10) medal for turkish wars 1876-78 11) medal for serbian bulgarian war 1885
  11. Grey would it be too much if i ask you to write me exact text written on the ribbon on german, original? Please!
  12. https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_von_Knobelsdorff_(General,_1826) About general major Wilhelm von Knobelsdorff , mentioned also battle of SOOR
  13. Grey thx a lot, wow this is really interesting text, thx a lot once again