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About laurentius

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    The Netherlands
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    German medals and medalbars from 1813 to 1918, although I don't mind a third reich medal on my bars

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  1. Dear Chris After pondering for quite a while about this subject I came to the conclusion that the third option is the most logical. This medalbar is most certainly not a frack ( no reversed pin, no reversed ribbons, and most importantly, the gallantry awards would be at the end) and I also doubt that some vereins medal was removed to make place for this Schwarzburg cross. There is a nice FEK on the bar with an ample amount of space, I would dare to say that this bar was most certainly made during the third reich, long after the time of the Weimar republic and all it's carnavalsorders. Kind regards, Laurentius
  2. Dear Chris Every award could be worn in the buttonhole, it was a matter of personal preference. If the recipient was fond of his Schwarzburg award he could have worn it in the buttonhole, perhaps he even wore it in combination with an iron cross ribbon and a MVO ribbon. Kind regards, Laurentius
  3. Dear Drdwarf13 He was commander of the Kurassier-regiment No. 3 from 18. april 1901 till 17. july 1902. He came from the Mecklenburgian/Dutch noble family of Boddien, whose members fought for the Mecklenburgian, Prussian and Dutch army. Hope this helps. Kind regards, Laurentius
  4. Dear Johhny R I think the collectors here would agree that you bought yourself a lovely piece of history Kind regards, Laurentius

    • FOR SALE

    For sale: Luxemburgian order of the crown, in good condition, lightly worn, the gilding is largely intact, except for a small part around the medaillon. Size is 51 MM X 51 MM, weight is 41 grams. 2 small identical markings on the ring. The price does not include shipping. The iron cross is not for sale, but merely there as size reference.


  6. Dear fellow collectors Although the crownorder was given out untill 1916, I highly doubt that this piece was indeed given out for wartime merit, rather I think, this would be a piece from the German colonial era, where it was much more common for this award to be given out. This second type was given out between 1869 and 1916. I cannot however, tell you whether this piece is authentic or not. Kind regards, Laurentius
  7. Dear fellow collectors Could it be that this bar belonged to someone who was a mere NCO/EM during the war? perhaps a BMVK2xkr and BMVK2x with a pre-war BMVK3? The Austrian war ribbon was for both NCO/EM and officers awards, the swedish order of the sword might be a version for NCO/EM also. This would explain why we can't find him in the rank lists Kind regards, Laurentius
  8. Dear Paul C The 9th ribbon is the Bavarian MVO4 without swords, which was only given out untill 1914. If you didn't have it in 1914, you would never be able to get it anymore due to the dissolvation of the Bavarian kingdom. That is the reason it has to appear in the 1914 ranklist. Kind regards, Laurentius
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    Austrian military merit cross

    Dear fellow collectors I am happy that this thread has been revived, as it is in my opinion a most interesting one. Regarding the picture supplied by 1812, it shows miklós horty, regent of the kingdom of Hungary with the military merit cross 3rd class with a miniature, however, this is not a miniature for the cross 1st class like mine, but rather a miniature for the cross 2nd class which Horty received. I think that Horty's collar is blocking out the part with the enameled ribbon, as seen in the picture posted here below. Kind regards, laurentius
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    Replica Dutch Medals

    Dear fellow collectors I can personally recommend Bovomed, they helped me in a very good and professional manner when I had my father's medal mounted there, and he went the extra mile to find a buttonhole award of his rare (for the Netherlands) Polish cross of merit. Kind regards, Laurentius
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    Order of the oak crown

    Dear fellow collectors Today I received the award, pictures will be added below, it is a true little beauty and it seems to be real gold, except for the ring around the medaillon. I would like to thank 1812 for supplying further reference material, personally I think that mine looks alike to the second picture send by 1812. The ring has 2 little identical markings, are there any collectors who can add on that? Kind regards, Laurentius P.S. The cross measures 51 X 51 mm, I added an iron cross for size reference
  12. Dear fellow collectors I had a stroke of luck last saturday and I was able to buy this lovely order of the crown for a good price. I am generally informed about the order but I did have one question about the ring which I hope one of the collectors here can answer. My commander's cross has a small ring through which the main ring is placed, the ribbon was worn through this main ring. Other examples of the order show only 1 ring. I'll add some pictures for visualisation. Firstly, my new piece. We can clearly see two rings, a smaller one and a bigger one, and here we have one with just one ring Is the difference in the ring maybe a difference in type or is the difference a difference in class, for example one could be a commander and the other one a grandcommander? Kind regards and thanks in advance, Laurentius
  13. Dear fellow collectors Since I have a lot of spare time on my hands (holiday started a while ago) I made a small start on who could be the possible owner of this ribbonbar. I found two brothers from the line of Hohenzollern-Sigmarungen whom I suspect of possibly being the owner of the ribbonbar. These two brothers are: * Prinz Wilhelm von Hohenzollern-Sigmarungen * Prinz Karl Anton von Hohenzollern-Sigmarungen Although both brothers held the rank of general in the prussian army (thus entitling them to a prussian servicecross and a centenary-medal) I think that Prinz Karl anton has a bigger chance of being the owner of this ribbonbar. He served as a leuitenant-general in WW1 (which would also entitle him to an EK2). I have a picture of him wearing a medalbar with the SWF, centenary and a bunch of foreign awards. In this picture he is also wearing the red eagle order and we can see the top of the Hohenzollern Princely honour cross. All the medals that come after the centenary-medal are foreign, we can see a japanese order for example which he would not wear during the war, since Japan was not on Germany's side. This would explain why a lot of these medals are missing from the ribbonbar. Furthermore we see the grandcross of the red eagle order, however, this is a peace-time award which is most likely absent from this ribbonbar because it is a ribbonbar with orders given out for bravery (swords) and 2 awards for service. In this picture we can see him wear the cross 1.st class of the Saxon white falcon order, of which he may have received a higher grade during the war for bravery, which would explain the miniature of the grandcross with swords on his ribbonbar (kleindekoration). Any further comments are ideas might be helpfull, since this is only a small start of the puzzle. Kind regards, Laurentius
  14. Dear John It's a nice original double-row ribbonbar made between 1936 and 1938. If I'm not mistaken it belonged to Admiral Otto von Schrader, who served in the ottoman empire during WW1, which explains his three ottoman awards. Kind regards, Laurentius
  15. Dear John Despite the rare order of the white elephant I don't think that this ribbonbar, which had a medalbar attached to it, would be attributable. It's not 'special' enough for an identification. I'll add a picture of the medalbar. Kind regards, laurentius