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  1. Dear fellow collectors, I recall a topic (by Rick Lundstrom I think) about how the Gestapo had cards filled with information about local recipients of high-end awards (made of precious metals). These awards had to be returned, but after the fall of the monarchies this largely came to a halt. It was said in this topic that the Gestapo would scan local newspapers for obituaries of deceased soldiers, go to the home of the next of kin and they would demand the decorations. They could be bought off however, for a price several times higher the worth of the award. Can anyone confirm this, or perhaps post a link to this topic which I can't seem to find? Kind regards, and thanks in Advance, Laurentius
  2. Dear Claudio, very nice pieces you have there, if they ever needed a place to sleep.... Kind regards, Laurentius
  3. Dear ixhs Does this mean that this routine didn't take place during WW2? I think that during the war the dire need for precious metals was quite high. Kind regards, Laurentius
  4. Dear Komtur I have 2 questions, what happened to the medals after they had been handed back to the authorities and why didn't they take the RAO 4th class? It's also made of silver, so there is value in it. Kind regards, Laurentius
  5. Dear Chris That; s why I asked, I recall reading about it here, but a search on the web, both here and on other forums yielded no results. Hopefully someone remembers the topic, or is knowledgeable to these affairs. It wouldn't be surprising if you ask me, if you were to take all imperial decorations made of precious metals from all the German states you'd get quite a mountain of silver and gold. Kind regards, Laurentius
  6. Dear GMU The decorations on the bar are: EK2, HOHx, LS ( I think, prussian first, but there are 2 little lines at the end of the ribbon so I could be wrong), HE3xKR, China-medal, ÖMVK, HT, WV3. KVK II refers to the War Merit Cross, of which he received the 2nd class during WW2, I wonder for what sort of capacity, due to his age I wonder? Regarding your last question, you are correct, it shows a Centenary Medal, a Japanese Order of the sacred Treasure and a Romanian Crown Order. Perhaps he chose not to wear the Centenary medal, and the Romanians and the Japanese fought against Germany in WW1 so it isn't surprising he's not wearing those orders anymore. Kind regards, Laurentius
  7. Dear Martin2 It's a terrible fake of the Deutsches-Feld-Ehrenzeichen. It was a non-official award, which had to be purchased by the veteran himself at one of the several veteran's associations. Kind regards, Laurentius
  8. Dear fellow collectors I recently came across this Order of the Black Eagle with Garter, with an inscription on the back. Could this be the handiwork of Ernst Blass? The details, especially around the Garter are of better quality than what I've seen so far, but I'm still doubtful, especially the inscription on the back, saying that this award was given to his Royal Highness George, the Prince of Wales, by Prince Henry (Heinrich) of Prussia. I look forward to your opinions. Kind regards, Laurentius
  9. Dear Chris That is a beauty, Truly beautiful. Kind regards, Laurentius
  10. Dear P.F. Although this medalbar comes much closer, I'm still suspicious. Just look at the campaignspanges on the picture in the first post and the campaignspanges in the picture you supplied, there is clearly a difference. In the photograph they are layered like bricks, and in the picture they are just atop eachother. The bar might nonetheless still be original, since I don't think it's a unique combination. Kind regards, Laurentius
  11. Dear P.F. Yes, it looks like a device for 50 years, which he didn' t have, nor do I think the medalbar belonged to him. Although the combination is the same as the one on the picture, there is a clear difference in ribbonfolds and space between the medals. I highly doubt it's his bar. Kind regards, Laurentius
  12. Dear fellow collectors Recently, after seeing a few examples of the MMJO on WAF I wondered, have there been attempts to fake, or copy the bavarian Military Max Joseph-order? There are a lot of fakes when it comes to high-end orders (fake PLM's and the Oldenburg fakes come to mind) but I can't recall ever seeing a fake MMJO? Are there fakes out there, and if there are, is there info and are there pictures of those? Kind regards and thanks in advance, Laurentius
  13. Dear fellow collectors I was reading the topic on the unknown badge of Char. Vizeadmiral Max Looff and I was quite intrigued by his picture so I starting doing some research on him. I found a picture of him from just after the war and I noticed he had the crownorder and the lebensrettungsmedaille, both on the ribbon of the lebensrettungsmedaille (indicating he got the decorations atleast twice). When I see pictures of an officer/soldier wearing a KO on the ribbon of the life-savingmedal it always seems to be someone attached to the German navy. I have two questions, when did Max Looff get his KO on the life-saving ribbon, and did the navy in fact have a higher percentage of people with the KO on life-saving ribbon than the army? For those who might be interested, the second picture is Felix, Graf von Luckner, who's service during the war seems more alike to that of a pirate than that of a naval officer. Kind regards, and thanks in advance, Laurentius
  14. Dear fellow collectors I was visiting some dealer's websites today, hoping I could find a nice bargain when I came accross this. It says it was made after 1918 but looking at the way the RAO-ribbon is attached on the back makes me think this might also be the handiwork of EB. What do you guys think? Kind regards, Laurentius
  15. Dear 1812 overture Despite the fact that this hobby sometimes might be dangerous, I highly doubt the will send a killer to your house. Kind regards, Laurentius
  16. Dear Elmar lang Would I be correct in saying that most of the fakes made by EB were created using malls from Rothe? Kind regards, Laurentius
  17. Dear fellow collectors, here I have the Prussian pre-ww1 regulations from 1913 when it comes to medals. I noticed that the Prussian Red Cross medal 2nd class ranks quite a bit higher than the Red Cross medal 3rd class, can anyone give an explanation for this? I will attach the regulations. Kind regards, Laurentius Prussian iron cross (1813/1870, the 1914 iron cross had not yet been instated) House order of Hohenzollern with swords Prussian Red Eagle order with swords Prussian Crown order with swords Prussian Military Merit Cross in gold Prussian Military Decoration 1st and 2nd class Russian Order of Saint George Austrian Maria-Theresia-Orden Prussian life-saving medal House order of Hohenzollern on peacetime ribbon (statute ribbon) Prussian Order of the Red Eagle on peacetime ribbon (statute ribbon) Prussian Crown Order on peacetime ribbon (statute ribbon) Prussian Red Cross medal 2nd class Prussian general decoration awards Prussian long service awards (Both the version for officers and enlisted men) Medals to the Prussian orders, and the Kriegerverdienst medal House order of Hohenzollern honour cross Prussian Red Cross medal 3rd class 1864 Düppel and Alsen Cross for the Danish war 1870/71 war medal (only one could be worn) 1866 war cross (only one could be worn) 1864 war medal Colonial medal with retrospective campaign clasps South-west Africa medal and China medal Hohenzollern campaign medal for the uprising of 1848/49 Jerusalem cross Wilhelm I and Wilhelm II coronation medals Hessen jubilee awards Hanoverian jubilee awards Orders from other German states Orders from other European states (except for the Order of Saint George and the Maria-Theresia-Orden)
  18. Dear ccj Beautiful for sure, but I rather question the originality of the piece. the star looks okay, although I don't have a perfect knowledge when it comes to that, but the enamel garter is most certainly fake. The way the different pieces are attached to eachother, the lettering, the way the belt is wrapped at the bottom, it just looks bad in general, nothing like the originals which can be viewed in Coburg castle. Kind regards, Laurentius
  19. Dear ccj It is one bar, it looks bad on the picture but in hand the difference is a mere 1,5 millimetres Kind regards, Laurentius
  20. Dear ccj I don't have many, but I have some I can share, hope you enjoy them. Kind regards, Laurentius
  21. Dear redeagleorder I don't think there has to be a Centenary medal with it, often a prussian LS award is combined with a Centenary award, but not always. If the owner of this LS award joined in 1898 and retired in 1920 he would have 22 years of service plus 4 years (war service counts double) and he would have his LS award, and no centenary. Taking part in the world war is also not a guarentee for a decoration. Only a third of the germans troops in WW1 got an iron cross. Kind regards, Laurentius
  22. Dear rabaduex It's not that unusual, contrary to what we think even the famed officers of the prussian army (for this moment not counting the NCO's and the navy personell who also received this prussian LS award) weren't always given orders. If a certain officer didn't take part in any action (regular colonial stuff or perhaps a war) the chances were quite slim for him to recieve an award. We collectors sometimes forget it when we see dozens of pictures of generals with high orders that a normal colonel had to work his ass off for 20 years before even getting a RAO. Kind regards, Laurentius
  23. Dear Freiwillige The second award is the Friedrich-Kreuz from Anhalt, I can't comment on the uniform Kind regards, Laurentius
  24. Dear fellow collectors, I have a question regarding the red eagle order 3rd class, this award is sometimes accompenied by a schleife. What exactly is the reason for this schleife? Some collectors tell me it was given only to prussians who received a RAO 3rd class after previously receiving a 4th class, whilst others say that recipients were eligible after having the 3rd class for 10 years. The german site https://www.ehrenzeichen-orden.de/ which is used by many collectors as reference states that all recipients after ten years are eligible for a schleife (Ritter die bereits 10 Jahre im Besitz der 3. Klasse waren konnten ebenfalls die Schleife erhalten), even those who hadn't previously received a 4th class. Kind regards, and thanks in advance, Laurentius
  25. Dear ccj The third award is a bavarian Luitpoldkreuz for 40 years of public service, the fifth award is a Sicherheitsdienst-auszeichnung for 35 years of service in the police (Gendarmerie). It is a very nice bar if I may say so. Kind regards, Laurentius