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Here the corret data of Leo Jacobsen from my List "Seeoffiziere". The complete list contains all ranks and branches of the imperial german navy, so it is not so detailed Best regards Markus Jacobson, Leo 1880, 04.15. Pr. Centenarmedaille Kapitänleutnant 1897, 03.22.S Torpedowerkstatt Friedrichsort, Assistent Jacobson, Leo 1880, 04.15. DK Danebrog-O. Ritterkreuz Kapitänleutnant 1900, 12.10. MOLTKE, 1. Offizier Jacobson, Leo 1880, 04.15. Türk. Osmanie-O. 3. Kl. Korvettenkapitän 1901, 02.14. MOLTKE, 1. Offizier Jacobson, Leo 1880, 04.15. Griech. Erlöser-O. Offizierkreuz Korvettenkapitän 1901, 04.06. MOLTKE, 1. Offizier Jacobson, Leo 1880, 04.15. Pr. RAO 4. Kl. Korvettenkapitän 1902, 01.19. SCHWALBE, Kommandant Jacobson, Leo 1880, 04.15. Pr. Dienstauszeichnungskreuz XXV Korvettenkapitän 1902, 05.01.R SCHWALBE, Kommandant Jacobson, Leo 1880, 04.15. Pr. Kronen-O. 3. Kl. Fregattenkapitän 1905, 06.23. Marinestation der Ostsee, z. Vfg. Jacobson, Leo 1880, 04.15. Russ. St.Annen-O. 2. Kl. Kapitän zur See 1906, 07.19. YORCK, Kommandant Jacobson, Leo 1880, 04.15. Pr. RAO 3. Kl. m. Schleife Kapitän zur See 1907, 09.07. YORCK, Kommandant Jacobson, Leo 1880, 04.15. Pr. Kronen-O. 2. Kl. Kapitän zur See 1909, 09.05. KURFUERST FRIEDRICH WILHELM, Kommandant Jacobson, Leo 1880, 04.15. Pr. RAO 2. Kl. m. EL. Konteradmiral 1912, 01.21. II. Marine-Inspektion, Inspekteur Jacobson, Leo 1880, 04.15. Pr. Kronen-O. 2. Kl., Stern z. Konteradmiral 1913, 06.16. Helgoland, Kommandant von Jacobson, Leo 1880, 04.15. Pr. Eisernes Kreuz 1914 I. Kl. Vizeadmiral 1918, 02.14.R Helgoland, Kommandant von

Yes, in the upcoming Thies-auction are also some battlehonors on a 1870/71 ribbon ........ but it is a wild collection of single clasps without any sense. It can not be designated to any unit. This "ribbon" was also published already in the Hüsken-Katalog and the single clasps in Nimmergut Vol. II. I think it is one of the remainig items from the Blass-collection. Regards Markus

Sorry Rudi, no ribbons from Hessen in my collection, i also cant remember that i have seen one on a Picture. But - where are the flags and Standards of your regiments today ? May be the ribbons are still beside the colours. So it should be. Hallo Rudi, ein Band eines hessischen Bataillons oder Regiments habe ich bisher bewusst nicht wahrgenommen. Grundsätzlich könnten und sollten sie sich noch an/bei den Fahnen befinden. Kennst Du Aufbewahrungsorte ? Falls Dich die Kombination von Gefechtsspangen einer bestimmten Fahne interessieren, kann ich gern nachschauen. Gruß Markus

Over 600 ribbons with approx. 580 different battlehonors were awarded in 1895 to the flags of Bataillons (Infantry, Jäger, Pioniere) or regimental-Standards (cavalry) or regimental flags (artilleriy). Here is an other one. 2nd Bataillion 1. Badisches Leib-Grenadier-Regiment (Inf,Rgt. Nr. 109). Typical Baden-combination, starting with the siege of Strassburg. Regards Markus

Also an Award for 1870/71: Erinnerungsfahnenband 1895, this awarded to the flag of Landwehr-Bataillon Ruppin. Battlehonors where always in chronological order, starting at the lower end of the ribbon, Regards Markus

The clasp KARAS-BERGE is a modern fake ! Please have a look on the other offers of this seller, he also offers a clasp with fake colonial clasps. Also i think, the Suedwestafrika-Denkmünze and the Kolonialdenkmuenze(in an other auction) are modern copies. All offered medalbars are new combinations, sewn together in the same style. Please save your Money and Keep away ! Regards Markus

The Allgemeines Ehrenzeichen was never awarded with the black-white prussian "war-ribbon". Always with the white-red/orange ribbon of the red-eagle-order, but 35mm wide instead of 30mm for the RAO 4th class. Two very rare exceptions were made: - after the war against Denmark 1864 a few subaltern military officials, who served behind the front without any enemy contact, got the AEZ with a narrow black stripe between the two red/orange stripes - over the decades a few persons got the AEZ with the ribbon of the livesaving medal, in case of a second livesaving and if they received the livesaving medal before. Regards Markus

Hello Andreij, Andreas posted your question on the german SDA-forum and answered on some questions. Here the original statutes of institution from January 16, 1842. There you will find answers to most of your questions. Unfortunately i dont have the original statutes for the LWDA 1 at the moment, but i know that there the designation "2nd class" for the Schnalle is introduced to make a difference to the cross 1st. class. If there are problems to read and translate it, i will try to translate the most important parts later. Best regards Markus

Sascha, the numbers of strucked and awarded crosses are correct, i did not research them from Tilo´s famous article, just took them from my very, very old brain ...... But about two different versions, completly gilt and partly gilt - i am shure. The statutes from october, 1st. 1898 say " Das Zeichen erster Klasse besteht in einem in rother Emaille mit schmaler Silbereinfassung ausgeführten "Rothen Kreuze", dessen Balken mit goldenen Kronen besetzt sind." (Hoeftmann, "Der Preussische Ordensherold", 2.Nachtrag 1890, S.5). If you compare the pieces shown in the article from Tilo, you will recognize the different coulour of the narrow edging of the red enamel. Best wishes Markus

It is far, far away from an original, awarded piece. All original awarded pieces were made (die struck) by the Berlin mint, the tools they used are still today in the coin-cabinet in Berlin. The archivals of the Berlin mint tell us a number about 220 pieces strucked. They all are from silver, crosses on the crown are rounded, the arms of the crosses never cut out. The design under the red coloured glass-flow is cut by hand, not die strucked. The crowns were gilded, but most pieces have lost most of this. I know also a variant which was completely gilded and then the edges of the red cross were polished back to silver. I think these are earlier produced and awarded pieces. Here is the one from my collection. I guess, the variant shown above is a version sold by Steinhauer & Lück after World War II. Regards Markus

Hello Ulsterman, yes, you find the link for download in category "Deutsche Orden bis 1918", pinned on top of the first page under "Verleihungslisten". But this morning - i cant enter the forum, may be some problems with the server. If you give me an email-adress, i can send the lists to you. Best regards Markus Bodeux

Hello Ulsterman, the lists can be downloaded here: http://h1797427.stratoserver.net/public_html/wbb3/board3-3/board5-deutsche-orden-ehrenzeichen-auszeichnungen-bis-1918/7644-verleihungslisten/ Best regards Markus

Here is my only awarded example of an RAO with swords, a 4th class, the model from 1885 until 1916. All parts original, the swords hollow from two parts, screwed into the center medaillon. It is a very ugly example because of the very bad made reparatures. But it comes directly from the ripped medalbar of Kapitän z.S. Moritz Krause, so i like it instead of its ugly Beside this i only have a 1930-1950 wearer´s copy, probably made by Godet and sold by Sedlatzek. One piece, Silver, swords were gilded. Regards Markus

I want to add this inofficial version of the prussian Landwehr-Dienstauszeichnung 2nd class. Private purchase for wear on civil cloth in the buttonhole, made from porcelain and painted. No maker marks. Regards Markus

Why a mistake ? Members of the "Stabswache" received the medal with the ribbon of the Houseorder of Hohenzollern. Can you find a silver content mark on the medal ? Regards Markus