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  1. Hello, I can not imagine that this MVO was delivered to Weiss so. It may be that he was later repaired and assembled incorrectly.
  2. I'll try it again. For gilded medallions or MVOs, the edge of the lower cross arm is widened on the back. As a result, it was immediately obvious that the 4th class of the MVO is not a real gold medallion or the 3rd class gold plated MVOs. In this example, the widening of the lower cross arm on the front can be seen. This should be correct on the back. As an example, I want to show the back of a MVO 4th class with silvered medallions from 1917 onwards. Here you can clearly see the broadening of the lower cross arm. Depending on the manufacturer, this is sometimes less pronounced. Left of the MVO with silver-gilt medallions from 1917 until the end of the war, on the right the MVO with three-part real gold medallions until the end of 1916. .
  3. It is probably a silver-gilt piece. However, the cross body is mounted the wrong way round. The lower widened edge of the cross arm must be on the back. Viele Grüße
  4. Hello, this MVK 2. Kl. X was an original piece, in which the swords were missing and a damage in the enamel is recognizable. These 2nd classes with swords can often get between 80 and 120 euros. Without swords and with damage, I find 80 euros for this peace not cheap. I hope that brings you a little further. Best regards Walter
  5. Here is an overview of the variants of the Royal Bavarian Military Merit Medal. Have fun and best regards Walter
  6. type 1a in silver: a type 1c in silver: a type 2a in silver: a typ 1d in silver:
  7. Hello everybody, I have just seen the topic. Since I want to make a few additions. Here is a Ries, type 2b in gold Best regards and another type 1d in gold:
  8. 1812 Overture and Spolei, you show there very nice medalbars. congratulation Best regards Walter
  9. Hello, at the PlM I always pick up the Lehmann (1740 - 1913 in chronological order) or the Möller (1914-1918 in alphabetical order. These books are very rare.The Lehmann is online, the Möller unfortunately not. I once copied the numbers from the Möller and attached the link to the Lehmann below for those interested. Best regards Walter. http://gdz.sub.uni-goettingen.de/dms/load/toc/?PPN=PPN135808596&IDDOC=287805
  10. Hello Martin At the higher levels, you should be extra careful. MVK 1 with crown and swords is very often forged. An original of Leser you can see in my post above. Exactly so an original must look by Leser. Other versions of Leser are not original. Regards Walter
  11. Servus, wanted to introduce my Christmas present here too. It is the honorary coin of the Bavarian Ludwigsorden. She was in receipt of a return, which is why she does not turn up often. Best regards Walter
  12. ... The decoration of the order consists of officers or civil servants in the officer rank, as well as those "Hof und Staatsdiener" as well as clergymen who have the rank of a golden cross of honor, for members of lower rank from a "Goldenen Ehrenmünze". @ Chris: Vielleicht kannst Du diese Übersetzung korrigieren. Da wird es für mich, mit meinem schlechten Englisch, schon sehr mühsam. Gruß Walter
  13. Yes, the processing of the awards took a very long time
  14. Hello, the medal was donated to commemorate the hundredth birthday of Emperor Wilhelm I. The circle of people was relatively large. It was awarded u.a. to all persons of the active army and the active navy, members of the protection troops and also to veterans of the wars 1864, 1866 and 1870/71. The award number should be well over one million medals. I hope, that helps you a bit. Best regards Walter
  15. I would like to come back to Ferdinand Schörner. At the end he lived impoverished in a nursing home in Munich / Nymphenburg. I knew a postman from my neighborhood who always brought him the mail. After Schörners death, his son inherited everything. Whether there was really anything that was auctioned at the auction house, came from his direct possession / heritage, I doubt it. Every time a known name comes into play, it capitalizes on it. Some awards often appear several times in different ways. As already mentioned in a post, the principle still applies, buy only the medal and not the story. Was Schörner's Medal Bar really worth the money?.... I dont know, but i have a guess. Best regards Walter
  16. In the 5th position, a Bavarian MVK 1st or 2nd form would fit without swords. MVKs or MVOs had to be returned after death. This could be the reason that it no longer exists. The SW Africa medal is made of steel for non-combatants (please do not clean, but preserve). The condition is relatively good As an example, I have attached 2 pictures. The first shows a first form VS / RS without swords. On the second one you see a first class VS and RS without swords and a second class with swords. In the first form, the MVK has been only one class. Best regards Walter
  17. Servus Andreas, Ordenskanzlei verstehe ich nicht. Die gab es doch erst nach 1918. Es müsste wohl Kgl. Bayerisches Kriegsministerium heißen, oder irre ich mich da? Gruß Walter
  18. I have estates where the TM was not mounted on the medal bar at all. These medal bars are always made after 1918 Unfortunately, I have almost no pictures that I can publish. Andreas (Spolei) certainly has several of them.
  19. Thanks @ Chris: If I understand you correctly with my bad English, do you want to know dates of the postwar association of the Order of the Bavarian Medal for Bravery? (The medal for the bravery was not a order, but they called themselves after the war ....)
  20. Here is a medal bar from a bearer of the Bavarian Golden Medal for Bravery Another medal bar with a Bavarian Golden Medal for bravery And for now the last medal bar of a Bavarian Golden Medal for Bravery