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8 hours ago, TomP73 said:
Hi all
I have come across this cap badge in my box of cap badges and was wondering if anybody can help me in identifying which era it is from or give any further info? I have a Manchester Regt cap badge from WW1 to accompany a group of Medals to a Manchester Soldier, and I have one of the later WW2 fleur de lis style ones as well, so I was wondering whether this was potentially earlier and Victorian?
I might look to move this on anyway as my only Victorian medals I currently have are to a Fusilier and a Royal Engineer so would probably be more welcome in somebody else's collection! But until I know what I actually have I can't say for sure.
Thanks in advance for any help!
Tom
Worn by Warrant Officers 1881-84, some sources say 1881-95, on the round forage cap. Pete.
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Royal Irish Regiment. The collar badges show the flat-topped shield above the thick curling scroll as worn by the regiment. Pete.
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Having looked more closely at the photo I am now of the opinion that those collar badges are Royal Irish Regiment. Pete.
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22 hours ago, Farkas said:
Hi Robbo,
I’ve had a look through the original post which has good facts 👍
My tuppence worth is to focus on the ribbon worn on the rear of the collar.
As a Welshman I know the Royal Welsh Fusiliers wear one. I just read that it represents a ponytail that was traditionally worn or something like that.
Though I don’t know of others that did/do if this is not the RWF it appears from the photo some did/do.
There is a fusiliers connection with the Connaught Rangers.There was also the RDF 👇
This came up too, similar shape design but I’m not sure if it is RDF.This is an RWF glengarry badge 👇
In 1871 then 1881 and there were big changes in structure and uniforms of the British army, with tweaks made for the rest of Queen Victorias reign ( to 1902)
As will all unwelcome/unnecessary change especially, there was some push back and it took time.
Men that purchased their own uniforms and that was particularly noticeable amongst militias didn’t hurry to adopt the changes. Historic badges/buttons were retained and used out of place by men and officers alike, collar badges on caps or old buttons on mess dress for example.
For now , If pushed, I’d say your man is a fusilier and, without me knowing others with the ribbon, that he is in a Royal Welsh Fusiliers uniform. I’d then have to guess that if they are not simply ‘hard to make out’ RWF badges then the collar badges are his from ‘before’ ie he served in a unit amalgamated into RWF or disbanded.
I’ve underlined all the if’s because with some Gent on here letting us know other units with the ribbon, and I bet there is… it’s all change 🤷♂️
tony 🏴🇬🇧Tony, those ribbons are not attached to the collar, they are part of the glengarry. The collar badges are the best hope of identification but they are too vague although they do have a hint of the shamrock in the shape. Pete.
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12 hours ago, FOR VALOUR said:
It looks like something knocked up as a George 6th Coronation brooch. It has the style of lettering from the George 5th Royal Cypher combined with the George 6th numerals which only seems to have occurred in the early days following the sudden departure of "Eddie the Unsteady". The best example of this is the early (1936) issue of George 6th cap badges for the Royal Army Service Corps which had that combination. Later issues had the correct pattern of George 6th Royal Cypher but the early pattern badges continued to be issued until stocks were used up. What you have there is definitely not a military item of any sort in my opinion and what that circle of twisted wire is all about is beyond my comprehension. Pete.
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9 hours ago, dpk said:
Thank you, Pete. I hope Gladys reciprocated...
Dave P-K
Unfortunately not Dave. Pete.
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1 hour ago, Farkas said:
How did ya know that Pete? 👏
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Because I used to have a thing about Nurse Gladys Emmanuel. Pete.
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On 12/04/2023 at 04:08, Farkas said:
Hi Gents,
I paid 25 quid for this lot and a beret…
there are 12 badges
Personally I’ve always found badges (not uniquely 😊) a minefield. Apart from a Cardiff badge (of course it was a fake) I’ve never splashed out on British badges because I just can’t tell what’s what.
In this case, while the seller offered no opinion on the originality, 2 quid each and a beret chucked in seemed worth a punt…
I’ve split them into 3 groups of 4 ;
4 that I think are copies
4 that I think are probably copies
and 4 I think might be good…
Re the 4 above…- XX Hussars feels good
- 25 Cyclists has a stamp (u sucker tony!)
- Both life guards badges included because they (particularly Edward vii badge) have clear details to the front.
How did I do Gents?
As always any thoughts welcome.
cheers
tony
The Dorset Regiment and the 5th Royal Inniskilling Dragoon Guards are the only ones I would trust. Pete.
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On 30/11/2023 at 07:39, Farkas said:
The Militia MSC was worn c1896 to 1898 when it became the RAMC (Militia), the Regular RAMC dates to 1898-1902 period. Both would probably have continued to be worn by "Old Sweats" well after those dates though. You have a couple of really nice badges there, especially the Militia one. Pete.
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12 hours ago, MedalCollector1 said:
I have come across this English hallmarked sterling silver brooch in the form of a Life Buoy and with a monogram of a W under a crown. The hallmarks date this to 1918 which is why I think this could be military and there is an inscription to the back from 1919.
I cannot track down this particular symbol with the life buoy so does anyone have any ideas of what this represents - perhaps the Navy? The only similar monograms with a crown relate to the
Netherlands or the Kaiser Wilhelm but as this is British its a bit of a mystery. Can anyone help with any information please?
Any chance of a clear image of the inscription on the rear please?.
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18 minutes ago, SillyOldGrandad said:
The crest is for the County of Middlesex. Pete.
M.C.C., Middlesex County Council. The crest was used on WW2 Home Front helmets but they wre painted black. Pete.
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Only my own opinion but to me that is one gaudy looking medal ribbon, subtle it is not. Pete.
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On 21/06/2023 at 00:28, joaobr said:
It looks downright weird to me. The French maker's label and the French collar badges are hardly something found on a RFC uniform. The rank markings are all wrong and apart from the wings it has nothing going for it at all. Pete.
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The first one is Royal Marines Bandsman 1911 Musician A. E. Freeman, the second one is Major W. B. Pearson, Lancashire Fusiliers. Pete.
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It's a bandsman's pouch badge of the West Yorkshire Regiment if I'm not mistaken. Pete.
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The man in the first photo was in the Reconnaissance Corps which was raised in 1941 and disbanded in 1946. The man in the second photo could well be Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders going by what can be seen of his bonnet badge. If it is, as it appears, the same man in both photos then there is a likely explanation for the change of unit. In February 1941 the 51st Reconnaissance Regiment was formed from the Anti-Tank Companies of 51st Highland Division with C Squadron formed from personnel of the Black Watch and the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders. The third photo is unclear but he appears to be wearing Royal Artillery collar badges but without a clear image of the cap badge it's impossible to be certain. Pete.
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1 hour ago, paul wood said:
I think the loss of her partner of 73 years was the beginning of the end. She went down hill rapidly after his dearh.
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The behaviour of her ginger grandson and his wife was also a contributing factor as well. What a way to treat a a little old lady who gave so much for us all. Pete.
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I have to admit it's a new one on me. At a guess I would say that, on the introduction of the large crowns, they should have replaced the small ones but clearly in some cases that never happened. Strange!!. Pete.
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What small crown?. There is no small crown, just a large crown above the wreath and crossed batons. Pete.
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It looks correct to me. Crossed batons within a wreath with a large seperate crown above.
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Help identifying era of Manchester Regt cap badge
in Great Britain: Militaria: Badges, Uniforms & Equipment
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Tom, my advice to you is to join the British and Commonwealth Military Badge Forum, membership is free and there are some real badge experts on there. Your badge looks alright to my eyes but there are some clever fakers (con merchants, grasping scumbags) who know all the tricks of the trade. If your badge is the real deal then it's certainly not a common badge so get some advice from the experts before you part with it. Pete.