mahoni

I’m afraid they are both recent manufactures ie not originals.

This document is for Tahlisiye madalyasi.

This one is for iftihar madalyasi.

I remember seeing a German maker Possibly Zeich Berlin using Z makers mark. Regards

I think there is another suspicious looking Turkish order for sale. Item number: 260816595210

There is another seller with suspicious looking TWM and other Turkish medals, orders in my opinion. Item no: 260716562216

Hi everyone, I have been sent this picture and I believe it is the reverse of the Gallipoli Star that our friend Murat has posted. It has been recently sold. So Rocky is quite right it is a Werner made example. Mahoni

Tugra looks quite simple for the quality of enamelling and there is enamel damage on that Star. It is a strange combination. I am not sure about this piece but it is my humble opinion. Mahoni Thank you Rocky, i will post reverse photos once i have recieved the medal, i have been assured by a close friend who has personally seen this medal that is is BBCo. cheers Murat

Hi there, this example of TWM is almost identical one of my Sedlatzek ones that I have posted on this forum some time ago.

Hi there, as far as I know that zig zag srcatch mark is a common on Turkish orders and that is how they tested the silver content of the piece. it was taken and tested by Ottomant mint. By the way your Medjidie order looks fine. Regards

Wagner reverse

Wagner

And the reverse