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  1. Rrumbullaku's Dekorimet [see earlier posts for full citation] page 83 seems to be the only source that gets all three classes right. He includes poor quality images of all 3 classes plus their description. HEROI/HEROIT {Hero} lst class neck badge & star as worn by King Zog in the image above. THERORI {Martyr} 2nd class is a neck badge similar to HERO class but with the Skenderbeg Crown replaced by an ornament that looks like an upside down fleur-e-lis. TRIMI {Brave} 3rd class is a neck badge similar to THEROR design but the wreath and swords are NOT suspended from the eagle's talons. Other usually accurate sources [Klietmann and Lame] indicate that TRIM insignia is the same as the Bravery Medal. According to Rrumbullaku's documentation [via Arthus Bertrand archives?] this is incorrect. I know of only 3 complete HEROI/HEROIT sets, one THERORI badge and one TRIMI badge--one of the HEROI/HEROIT sets may be an unissued specimen. Bertrand made and marked at least one run of the insignia, maybe in 1927-8.
  2. Alex, Your post 98 query looks to be Bulgarian Officer's 10 year service cross. Also, the medal I could not ID earlier appears to be a MECKLENBURG-SCHWERIN 1897 Memorial Medal for Grand Duke Friedrich Franz III though ribbon seems incorrect {c.f. Polish White Eagle???}
  3. The Kretly stars seem a real curiosity. At one point they were posited as trial pieces for the Catholic Order and again as trials [with the motto ring] for the alleged 1920's Russian exile Order {see FAKE BULGARIAN ORDERS ON THE MARKET, post 193. Liverpool listed a star of this Kretly type with the "K" and Byzantine/Russian crown center]. One expert suggested that they were Second Class First Division stars. Note that they have a 'rounder' outer circumfrence than Meyer stars.
  4. New World--simply a fantastic and extremely rare set!! Absolutely correct case for this award. The outer lid bears the arms of Archbishop Roberto Menini, O.F.M. Apostolic Vicar of Sofia and Plovdiv [1885-1916], who founded this Order in February, 1905 to recognize contributions to the Roman Catholic Church in Bulgaria. Pope Pius X sanctioned the Order later that same year. Men and women, Bulgarians and foreigners, all could qualify for this honor. Supposedly organized into 3 classes with First Class being a badge, sash & star; Second class, 1st division, being a neck badge & star; Second class, 2nd division, neck badge only; Third class breast badge worn on trifold ribbon. All insignia known made in Vienna by Meyer and so marked. First and Second class cases most often[3 of 4 I’ve seen!] have Menini’s arms on the outer lid but none of the five third class cases I’ve seen display the arms on the lid. Tsar Ferdinand tried to 'influence' abolition of this Order to pave the way for his own Order of Cyril & Methodius through many stratagems--all of which failed. When Menini died in 1916, however, this Order became 'obsolete'. Insignia of the higher grades is quite difficult to find, especially cased sets. I know [1959 to present] of only one cased First Class set plus 2 uncased sets, two cased Second Class with star [New World's, likely ex-Klenau auction ex-Robert McNamara collection] and one uncased set. Badges for Second Class with star insignia usually seem to be the same size as First Class sash badges while Second Class [without star] badges seem to be the same size as Third Class badges but fitted with a cravat loop. I recall seeing maybe 10-12 Third Class badges being offered for sale over the years but do not know how many were the same items being resold. Several articles on this Order describe it in more detail but none to my hand at present. Again, New World, what a wonderful and rare set!!!
  5. If Alex seeks the identity of the three "?" medals: last appears to be a Medal for the Yambol-Bourgas Railway, 1890--likely gold class next to last, a Saxe-Coburg-Gotha Commemorative Medal for the Silver Wedding Anniversary of Duke Alfred and Grand Duchess Maria, 1899 Next to that--can't recall i
  6. New World, Good questions.....Finishing details like the loop may well have changed during subsequent manufacture--especially if some insignia originally had a trophy of arms or Ladies' bow suspension as Klietmann states. The "K" could be for either Kiril or Konstantine and the Russian appearing Crown could also represent a Byzantine Crown. Both possibilities support the options in posts 191 and 193 above.
  7. Hi Graf, If you are an OMSA member you may see the images Klietmann mentions at http://www.omsa.org/files/download.php?file=JOMSA_Vol10_4.pdf&stream=true&year=1959 page 5. Somewhere I have images of at least the Liverpool star and a couple of the badges as well--can not say when I'll locate them! I have NEVER been able to trace the organization that Klietmann mentions in spite of many efforts. There was a story [maybe published in a 1960's-70's Sabretache?] mentioned by Colonel Delchoff [a French collector died in the late 1970's-early '80's] that these pieces related to a 1920's-'30's Russian exile group associated with Grand Duke Kiril of Russia in Paris. However, that ribbon was identified as a dark salmon/brown color. Rothe had that ribbon in stock from about 1960-86.
  8. Greetings! Item in Graf's post 186 described by Dr. Klietmann [in the 1950's] as insignia of a private Order based in Paris. By chance, found Dr. Klietmann's notes published in "The Medal Collector" issue for September-October 1959, page 12. [Fair use copy] O. OF SS° CYRIL & METHODIU8 - ADDITIONAL COMMENTS BY DR. K. G. KLIETMANN REFERRING TO THE ILLUSTRATIONS ON THE LOWER PORTION OF PAGE 5 OF THE JULY-AuGusT 1959 ISSUE, WHICH SHOWED SOME UNUSUAL BADGES IN THE COLLECTION OF DR, GOODWlN, THE FOLLOWING CAN BE SAID: THIS IS THE BADGE OF A PRIVATE ORGANIZATION FOUNDED IN PARIS ON NOV, 24 1952~ WITH THE NAME NOBLE ASSOCIATION CHEVALERESQUE DE LA CROIX DE CONSTANTIN LE GRAND [NOBLE AND KNIGHTLY ASSOCIATION OF THE CROSS OF CONSTANTINE THE GREAT]. THE STATUTE IS SIGNED BY DON RIUS BERNARD~ PRINCE OF THESSALIE. THE BADGE PICTURED ON THE LEFT IS WORN BY ALL MEMBERS OF THE ASSOCIATION FROM A SKY--BLUE RIBBON. MISSING ON THE BADGE IS THE TROPHY (FOR MEN) OR THE ENAMELLED LADIES BOW~ SIMILAR TO THE CROSSES OF THE 0. OF MALTA. THE STAR ON THE RIGHT~ WAS" TO BE AWARDED FOR SPECIAL MERITS IN THE CAUSE OF THE ASSOCIATION~ AS PER THE 8TATUTES~ AND WAS CALLED hPLAQUE DE MERITE~(PLAQUE OF MERIT). THIS ASSOCIATION MOST LIKELY DOES NOT EXIST ANY MORE° THE BADGES WERE MADE IN PARIS. Inferences that the private society design copies a Bulgarian precursor seem accurate if Klietmann's report is correct. Liverpool Medals had a star for sale some years ago as did Patrice Reboul. Among other places, several badges may be found illustrated in old [1970's-'80's] Klenau auction catalogs.
  9. Based on ribbon appearance and general cross format, his last award most likely the Order of the Oak Crown of the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg.
  10. Thank you for posting this precious image!!
  11. French Mini medal bar

    First 3 are 'private' awards, usually buy your own diploma and insignia. See https://www.comitedentente.be/membres/confédération-européenne-des-anciens-combattants-c-e-a-c/, https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croix_du_combattant_de_l'Europe and https://www.encouragement-public.org/ and related sites for details. Last is an official BE award usually for long service. Given substance of the first three, perhaps self-awarded. .
  12. Yes, dangerous for the unsuspecting. From musical instruments to Orders...... Do not forget the sash!!
  13. Paul Kaparoff [kap73p@aol.com] has a wide variety of ribbon for sale including some Pakistani, Indian and Indian State stock. He may have these Sitara e Harb ribbons on hand.
  14. Order of Homayoun ribbon usually reported as green with red edge stripes without additional outer green edge.
  15. Thank you for posting these detailed, quality images! Tried Googling the awardees' name without success, any suggestions New World?.
  16. I regret seeing the assembled set...before dismemberment! However, given the decoration array, wonder whether it might be a display group rather than an awarded group. Any provenence available?
  17. Had this Belgian officer served in the cavalry or veterinary corps, the French award grant or connection might be more apparent. Further, this officer's commander grade of the French Order of Agricultural Merit may not necessarily related to activity in the agricultural field [pun intended]. France used/uses the Order of Agricultural Merit to recognize general merits in addition to those related directly to agriculture. Examples include Nicholas of Montenegro and Haile Selassie who both received this Order--Nicholas' now displayed in the Cetinje Palace Museum mounted on a sash in the correct colors. An acquaintance seconded to the French Foreign Ministry received the knight cross [star] in 1970 after working there for a year. Concur with an Ethiopian Star for the green-yellow-red commander ribbon. Is the last ribbon a Dannebrog?
  18. Thank you for this excellent presentation. Rudimentary studies of this award appeared in the late 1960’s and mid-1970’s in various publications including the Medal Collector and Sabretache. Your exposition surpasses those in scope and image quality. 1970’s reports suggested that ‘re-strike’ or copy crosses had appeared out of Germany and Spain. These pieces were crude and thick when compared to originals [especially the centers] but of the correct 4 cm. diameter. As I recall, these items were all of the military version. Have you any information regarding copies currently seen on the market?
  19. Has anyone an image of Carol II wearing his Cyril & Methodius?
  20. ALBANIA - FASCIST MILITIA

    Very impressive finds, Bob!! You are lucky AND persistent and that's what it takes!!
  21. Image too small for my old eyes. Ribbon & cross format suggest St. Agatha [San Marino] but do not see wreath between cross arms.
  22. Help needed on unknown medal

    Copy British DSO. If this is soft metal or plastic & about 25 mm or 1 inch wide, it likely dates from the mid-1950's. A series of perhaps 20 similar manufacture awards were sold individually with a 3 fold cardboard display mounting. The idea seems to have been 'collect 'em all!' The ribbon & pin on your example, however, differ from that generally seen on such pieces. Another edition of these same items in plastic painted in colors approximating actual enamel work exists. Those had a much coarser woven ribbon, often in colors similar to the originals.
  23. Miniatures of Japanese Orders and Medals

    Thank you--See he received a Leopold with swords, perhaps during the visit?
  24. Miniatures of Japanese Orders and Medals

    Looks like a match!! First image I've seen of a Brazilian wearing the 1920 Belgian Medal of the Royal Visit to Brazil. Have you details of his Japanese involvement?
  25. Miniatures of Japanese Orders and Medals

    Perhaps Mrs. Admiral received the medal as well?
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