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  1. I am a bit puzzled by this stamp, as CF Zimmermann did not put full name of their firm on German awards, normally it's a number 20 as I recall. On WWII German (DKIG, various badges, etc) awards you can see underside of the pin marked "20" which is the code number for C.F. Zimmermann, Pforzheim. On the other hand, here's similar St Alexander star with diamonds with same stamp, sold by Spink. No photo of the stamp, but description mentions same stamp to the pin: A spectacular diamond-set star of the Bulgarian Military Division of the Order of St. Alexander Bulgaria, Principality, Order of St. Alexander, Military Division, Star, by C. F. Zimmermann, Pforzheim, 84mm, gold, silver-gilt, siver and enamel, enhanced with approximately 848 'diamonds', maker's name to retaining pin, nearly extremely fine and of the finest quality The overall quality of this Star illustrates the supreme experience and detail undertaken by the craftsmen in the workshops of Zimmermann. Each stone upon the rays is individually set into a pierced silver frame; in this material to accentuate the natural colour of the stones. Besides this a sliver-thin pierced gold plate is painstakingly affixed and pierced to align with the pierced silver plate, allowing light to the stones whilst ensuring the reverse of the Star is as attractive as possible at the same time alleviating any tarnish being transferred to the uniform of the recipient in time. Zimmermann markings on German Iron Crosses: C.F. Zimmermann / Pforzheim 20 & 800 http://www.medalnet.net/Iron_Cross.htm
  2. wow, such a beautiful star! I am sure it belonged to someone very important. Congratulations! The stamp on the pin is for German maker Zimmermann.
  3. not exactly fake medal, star actually looks fine, but Godet and other stamps are very suspect.
  4. new world

    Medal ID help!

    Wow, impressive medal bar!
  5. new world

    Medal ID help!

    This is rare medal, congrats!
  6. Seller of these supposedly Rothe stars is based in Austria, which could mean something if these awards were manufactured post-war. One factor in favor of this theory is lack of proper F Rothe stamps, as finished awards were all endorsed with such stamps. One of the main mysteries are enamels. Enamels on these awards seem to be real hard baked type enamel, which are extremely difficult to replicate. It's possible though that someone found supply of already made parts (center of the star) with enamels already applied, but never assembled.
  7. Last one looks like medal for the Election of King Peter I.
  8. Thank you! In post #69 Graf said "Notice the Swords they are mounted upside down" - that's exactly what we see in the 2nd photo you posted. It seems to be identical star to the one in the Romanoff's book.
  9. What kind of cross goes with this star?
  10. Title appears to be written, not stamped. I think initially there was no title on the case. It's made by Rothe.
  11. Knyaz period box for 2nd class with swords above Knyaz period 5th class. It appears name of the order is handwritten.
  12. Igor, I don't think it means white cross on the neck without a star is 100% 3rd class. Look at this photo of General Kisov - he's wearing white cross only, which is from his 2nd class set. The photo is from 1930s (he became General Lieutenant in 1930). Next earlier photo is of him wearing the same white neck cross, this time star is present. Finally, photo of him wearing his green 3rd class cross, before being awarded with 2nd class set. The point I am trying to make - people wore 2nd classes with and without the star, it's not that easy to determine which class a person is wearing. We can't say just by looking at the photos - white cross, no star - certainly 3rd class.
  13. Graf, This type of St Alexander star existed, Dimitri Romanoff has some examples in his book and states these were issued before Ferdinand period. Here are some photos of similar stars from the book, second star is practically the same star except the swords.
  14. Unusual star of St Alexander - rays have diamond cut finish instead of being smooth. Seller says it's 90 mm, which is 1st class size. No maker's marks. Any opinions on what this star is?
  15. Professor Petko Pavlov passed away. He was well known scientist, awards enthusiast and researcher. Many of you know him as author of the most complete and famous catalog on Bulgarian awards (1st and 2nd editions): Besides this collector's bible, he also authored other books on Bulgarian awards and badges. His work contributed greatly to research, categorization and popularization of Bulgarian Royal and Communist period awards. He was frequently mentioned in the posts on this forum. This is really sad news, he was great historian, true to his values, committed to his family, and an example of integrity for all and we always felt a deep sense of respect for him. Our sincerest condolences to the Pavlov family and friends during this difficult time, our hearts and prayers are with them. He will be truly missed. His authographed books
  16. sold for $3420 ($2851 sale price + 20% buyer premium)
  17. Rarest of the rare - cross of Order for Bravery 1st class, 1915 version. No star. See comparison to 2nd class cross in 2nd photo, 1st class is on the right and noticeably larger. Some people are so lucky to have these extra rare awards in their collection...
  18. Igor, Thank you for the photos, but these are for Military Merit order and there were no questions that it had tsar crown from the inception (before 1908).
  19. Interesting photo, another example that shows that Civil Merit orders were awarded with Tsar crown before 1908.
  20. I'll have to look at my star with swords, in the meantime here's correct one from dealer listing. As you can see, the swords are as they should be and there's a rivet attaching them to the star.
  21. IMHO the star is not legit. It is real star, however the swords and how they are attached don't look right to me. Most likely swords were added later. This type with swords on top is very rare and would cost significantly more compared to common plain stars, so economically it makes sense to buy swords, attach them to the star and double your money.
  22. that's correct, making hard enamel is elaborate process and most fakers can't do it. Checking enamel should be first thing you do when considering awards.
  23. I recall we already discussed this one, with fake engraving and serial (?) number.
  24. I talked to the seller and informed him that the star is fake, told him about soft enamels. He still insists it's original and unfortunately is still for sale...
  25. Order of Saints Cyril and Methodius https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_Saints_Cyril_and_Methodius Very rare award - modern version. Design is based on Royal version of award, however not as detailed. The Order of Saints Cyril and Methodius was reinstated on 29 May 2003 as the second order of the republic after the Order of Stara Planina and is awarded for merit in the fields of art, science, education and culture. There are three grades: 1) Collar, 2) 1st Class (Officer) 3) 2nd Class (Knight) Only 15 awarded in Collar Grade, so extremely scarce award. Even rarer with the document! Case and tubus for the document
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