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Das Buch vom Schwarzen Adler-Orden. Stillfried-Rattonitz, Rudolf Graf von. Verlag Editio Militaris 2011 There you find all recipients. But it must be the reprint version of 2011 (!), because this is inclusive the edition of 1901 (recipients 1901-1901), Supplement 1908 (recipients 1901-1907) and addition of Eckart Henning/Werner Seeger from 1973/74 (recipients 1909-1918(34)). Regards, Komtur.
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That was yesterday on Ebay indeed one of the very scarce awarded Komturkreuz with swords by Wagner in silver gilded from 1917/18. The linked cross sold by Emedals is not one of the awarded crosses before 1918. IMHO these could be made by Zimmermann before and after the war e.g. for private purchase. This type of inisgnia was also given by the exiled Kaiser in the later Doorn period. Compare the Wagner cross (awarded in 1918 to Generalleutnant von Eberhardt) : and a Zimmermann (?) cross (given to Dr. Adalbert Remmert in 1932 by the exiled Kaiser):
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In the end all three options are possible: 1.) The list is not complete. 2.) There is a fitting von Roeder beside the ones we know. 3.) There is something wrong with this bar. The last opportunity seems to me quite unlikely too. Designing such a bar in this clever combination needs a very informed and cute guy. But unfortunately this is not impossible. Regards, Komtur.
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The person you are looking for, must be one of the 16 with the Crown Order 3rd class on the white ribbon in Verleihungen von preußischen Kriegsorden und Ehrenzeichen im 1. Weltkrieg by Daniel Krause, published in February 2023 and to be found here. You can exclude Frielinghaus, Gerlach, Hennig, Lösche, Methling, Müller-Berneck, Werner and Winter because of other listed awards in the Rangliste der Kaiserlich Deutschen Marine 1918 and Bartelt because of the same reason in Handbuch über den Königlich Preußischen Staat 1918 as Moroff in Militär-Handbuch des Königreichs Bayern 1914. So there are left Koenemann, Ottilie, von Roeder, Schiemann, Szillinsky and Wittmann to search for in other sources e.g. rank lists, award lists etc. Regards, Komtur. Preuss-Kriegsorden.pdf
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They are listed in the Königlich Preußische Ordensliste. In that case, you need the edition of 1868 (with about 1.500 pages), because the Crown Order 4th class on the white ribbon on your bar should have been awarded for the war in 1866. But unfortunately all the names are listed by the award date of the same class. Therefore these awards on that special ribbon (about 130) are mixed up with the hundreds names of the awards on the normal blue (peacetime) ribbon and with the also hundreds of awards of the order with swords on the war time ribbon. It would take hours to search these 130 names out of the complete list for the Crown Order 4th class. Sorry, but that time I am not able to afford. 😔 May be in between this book is to be found online and you can search there yourself?