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  1. The third ribbon appears to be for the 1905 Saxe-Coburg Hochzeits-Erinnerungsmedaille, which would fit with the Ernestine House Order.
  2. The first letter is an "a", so "aus Gefangenschaft zurück."
  3. It seems to be a widespread practice. All the Anhalt rolls I have are like this, as are the Baden Zähringen Lion Verzeichnis, the Schaumburg-Lippe Kreuz für Treue Dienste Verzeichnis, the Bavarian Kriegsranglisten on Ancestry, the Schwarzburg rolls, etc. Maybe it was a way to distinguish surnames from other uses, when surnames were often words. So, for example, to distinguish Harry Töpfer from a Töpfer named Harry.
  4. That seems like a good possibility. Or maybe a Polizei-Dienstauszeichnung, the kind where the ribbon also had a swastika?
  5. Neither is Sütterlin. That script was only introduced in the Prussian school system during the war, so adults at the time would not have learned it. It is just two different versions of Kurrentschrift. I have no idea why, but it seems to have been the practice for last names in official sources, as shown in the examples Chris posted above. Below are some examples from the Anhalt Friedrichkreuz rolls. Note that it is the entire last name, not just the first letter, which is in a different script. Note the two different versions of the letter "C" for Hptm.d.L. Carl Clausert: And another example of "G" as with Gustav Gebert, this one for Feldwebel Gustav Geier: Here is "H", for Hermann Hübenthal: And a couple of "K"s: And an amusing one, Friedrich Friedrich:
  6. With the Red Eagle and the Albrecht-Orden Knight 1st Class, but with a Knight 2nd Class with Swords of the Friedrich-Orden, it seems that his civilian rank was higher than his military rank. Maybe an außer Dienst Reserve or Landwehr officer, so he had worked his way up the civil service ranks, but was still a Leutnant or Oberleutnant when the war began.
  7. An older thread, but here is some additional information to add to Rick's research: • The unidentified award between the Liakat Medal and the Red Crescent Medal is the Russian Order of St. Stanislaus, awarded on 10 July 1914. Some other award dates: • 19.05.09 Lifesaving Medal (Rettungsmedaille am Bande) • 14.09.14 Iron Cross 2nd Class • 12.12.15 Iron Cross 1st Class • 07.04.17 Ducal Saxe-Ernestine House Order, Knight 1st Class with Swords • 28.06.17 Hamburg Hanseatic Cross • 24.12.17 Turkish War Medal (Iron Crescent) • 11.05.18 Wound Badge in Black • 20.05.18 Austro-Hungarian Military Merit Cross 3rd Class with War Decoration • 14.06.18 Lippe-Detmold War Merit Cross These award dates were in the receipt for his Lippe-Detmold War Merit Cross, which he sent to Detmold on 27 June 1918, so all his other awards are from after that date. Best regards (and RIP Rick)
  8. I don't know if there is a way to confirm it. Sometimes, getting it down to a handful of names is as close as you can get. I know that Lotz received the Hessian Bravery Medal, because it was in his award recommendation for the Schwarzburg Honor Cross, which I reviewed in the archives in Rudolstadt. I also know that Lotz was in the Hessian and later Schwarzburg/Thuringian higher education service since before World War I, and was still alive in the late 1930s, so he would have the Honor Cross for Combatants and probably qualified for the Treuedienst-Ehrenzeichen. I know of no way to confirm either the Olympia-Ehrenzeichen or the Hungarian War Commemorative Medal. Lotz is not the in 1942 Dienstaltersliste of the Education Ministry, so he could have been retired or dead before then. Weidmann is in the 1942 Dienstaltersliste, which lists his EK2, Schwarzburg Honor Cross, Hessian Bravery Medal and Honor Cross for Combatants. The Treuedienst-Ehrenzeichen is not listed in this Dienstaltersliste, but his seniority dates from 1913, so he had the requisite 25 years of service. The Olympia-Ehrenzeichen is also not shown in the Dienstaltersliste, as it apparently was not considered a decoration. I know of a few other recipients of both the Schwarzburg and Hessen awards who can be eliminated for other reasons. Some had other known awards. Others had civilian jobs outside the civil service. Others died before 1936. However, as I mentioned above, there may be others we don't know about yet. There are several recipients of the Schwarzburg Honor Cross for whom I don't even have a first name, much less any idea whether they also had a Hessen connection or a civil service job. I only just discovered the first name of one recipient of the 4th Class with Swords today. He was Louis Köhring, born in Sondershausen and a a Vizefeldwebel and Offizier-Stellvertreter in Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 168. IR 168 is from Hessen, so he probably also had the Hessen Bravery Medal. I don't know what he did in civilian life, or indeed if he was a civilian - he might have been an active NCO. The 4th Class probably would have silver swords on the ribbon, so odds are he is not a candidate anyway. I don't know about the third bar. The Saxon ribbons indicate a Vizefeldwebel/Feldwebel type. I am not sure what the blue ribbon is supposed to be. My first thought was the Württemberg Friedrich Orden, and possibly he was commissioned late in the war in IR 105, but the precedence is wrong. A German war decoration from any state should precede the Honor Cross for Combatants, while a foreign decoration should come after the Saxon Dienstauszeichnung. The Hungarian War Commemorative Medal should also come after the Saxon Dienstauszeichnung.
  9. For the first one, I have two possibilities, although there may be others. There is no roll for Hessen wartime awards, so there may be some other Schwarzburg award recipients who have something from Hessen on that ribbon whom we have not yet identified. The two I do know had both the Schwarzburg Honor Cross 3rd Class with Swords and the Hessen Bravery Medal, were civil servants and were still alive in the 1930s/1940s to get the Treuedienst-Ehrenzeichen. I don't know about the Olympia-Ehrenzeichen - there is a list of the higher classes, but I don't think there is one for the many awards of the medal to people who provided some support to the 1936 Olympics. The two I have are: • Lotz, Wilhelm, Dr.phil., *22.12.1883 in Vilbel, Friedberg in Hessen; Lt.d.R., RIR 82; Oberlehrer in Sondershausen • Weidmann, Karl, Dr.phil., *16.10.1888 in Büdingen, Hessen; Lt.d.R., LFußABat 10; Oberlehrer in Sondershausen The second bar might be for an officer, but odds are it is for an NCO. You might be able to cross-check recipients of the Bavarian Gold or Silver Bravery Medals against Bavarian recipients of the Saxe-Meiningen Medal for Merit in War. The Bavarian military records on Ancestry could confirm the other awards.
  10. Hi all, I have been doing some research and came across a small mystery. I wonder if anyone has any thoughts? This is from the website of the Volksbund Deutsche Kriegsgräberfürsorge: Georg Ruhstrat ruht auf der Kriegsgräberstätte in Kleinmachnow-Waldfriedhof. Endgrablage: Grab 158 • Nachname: Ruhstrat • Vorname: Georg • Dienstgrad: Volkssturmmann • Geburtsdatum: 25.03.1888 • Geburtsort: Oldenburg • Todes-/Vermisstendatum: 24.05.1945 • Todes-/Vermisstenort: nicht verzeichnet Here's the mystery. Georg Ernst Conrad Ruhstrat, born 25.3.1888 in Oldenburg, wasn't just some 57 year old guy called up to serve in the Volkssturm. Ruhstrat served as an officer in Feldartillerie-Regiment Nr. 58 in World War I and left the Reichswehr in 1926/27 as a Hauptmann. He was a recipient of the Prussian House Order of Hohenzollern with Swords and the Oldenburg House and Merit Order with Swords, among other decorations. He was still listed as a Hptm.a.D. in the 1943 Berlin Adreßbuch. Any thoughts as to why a well-decorated retired regular officer would end up as a mere Volkssturmmann? Maybe he ran afoul of the Nazis and lost his privileges as an officer?
  11. Not sure if it would affect your plans, but there is usually a militaria show in Thiaucourt around the second weekend in July. While we were staying in Verdun, a few of us went to that show in 2013. We also stopped at the St. Mihiel American Cemetery just north of Thiaucourt, but did not make it to the German cemetery, which is just south of the village.
  12. The combination seems fine. Frackspange for a reserve/Landwehr officer who was active in 1897 to get the Centenary Medal. Is it ID'd on the dealer website in question? I only have a partial list of officer recipients of the Lippe Kriegsverdienstkreuz, and the only close match I have died in 1930, so he wouldn't have the Ehrenkreuz für Frontkämpfer.
  13. The precedence is wrong. The KVK2X as a national award outranks the Prussian House Order of Hohenzollern. The Sudeten Medal should be last.
  14. I fixed the images in my post above. Also, here are some closer scans:
  15. Also some infantry Oberleutnants: Cordt v. Brandis, Oberleutnant, IR 24, for Fort Douaumont Heinrich Brinkord, Oberleutnant der Reserve, RIR 92 Daniel Gerth, Oberleutnant, Fhr. III./IR 150 Hans v. Ravenstein, Oberleutnant, FR 37, promoted to Hauptmann 3 days before the award of the plM.