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  1. Spanish Franco regime shoulder boards

    Yes Bayern, and this is for sure: Thanks for your definitive help.
  2. Spanish Franco regime shoulder boards

    About the shoulder-boards it likes to below to the Cuerpo General de Policía 1941- 1978 althought I can't find the exact rank: http://www.insigniapolicia.es/cuerpo-general-de-policia-1941-1978 http://guardiadeasalto.com/401/47664.html https://www.policia.es/museo/museo.html It likes to be of Inspector de Segunda de la escala de ejecución o ejecutiva. Anyway, it to be likes various patterns, depending the tailor that made the full uniform.
  3. Spanish Franco regime shoulder boards

    Hello bayern Thanks to you. Yes Serrano use to wear the "Movimiento" uniform. Was the easier and correct way to see things. He was not Carlist at all because Carlist are not fascist, are tradicionalist. Regards
  4. Spanish Franco regime shoulder boards

    Hello Bayern Sorry I thought you were talking about Serrano shoulder-board insignias. Maybe you are right... I have not time to look for the policial ranks but one thing is sure: If you know spanish, please take a view to those links: https://www.boe.es/buscar/doc.php?id=BOE-A-1997-21175 https://www.protocolo.org/ceremonial/protocolo_organismos_e_instituciones/breve_resena_del_uniforme_diplomatico.html http://mundomilitaria.es/foro/index.php?topic=12497.45 The diplomatic or consular never wear the rank in the shoulder-boards. Then, it can be policial perfectly. Regards
  5. Spanish Franco regime shoulder boards

    Hello Bayern Sorry, but Serrano Suñer that was Franco's brother in law never was a member of the spanish police. Then it is not possible for him to wear a police uniform. He was lawyer or graduate in laws, and "camisa nueva" of the Falange. It means he didn't be a part of the José antonio's falange, as Hedilla, the falange previous to the civil war and where Franco was an extrange. He was named by Franco chief of the nationalist foreign office (1) because his "germanofilia". Then, he was a high rank leader, of the new falange found by Franco joining the new spanish fascist (JONS) with the traditionalist or requetés. Then he has a falange rank that is the one you can see in the chest with the falange symbol, that it takes from the "Reyes católicos"(3) the famous " yugo y las flechas" more (el nudo gordiano) that was chosen for those kings as symbol (4) and stole by Franco as symbol of the "new Spain". As he chose those king's age as example of the Empire to came. The rank, I don`t know exactly what was as I am not an specialist, and the cup decorations were not from falange, then have to be from the uniform of Foreign Office, logically. Those were my advices, nothing more. The main work to search is not mine. Boris (1) With headquarters in Burgos during the war. (2) From germano=german and (from filius-i, latin= brother; filia (rom spanish=liking)) (3) From the latín Rex-regis: rey, king. And from the old greek katholicós=universal. (4) Y-ugo, Isabel, flechas, F-ernando.
  6. Spanish officers 1917

    Hello Bayern I learn of an argentinian history master (I don't remember now the name) what really was the Spanish Empire, that was not an empire like English in XIX century, by example. The basis of it were nor the gold, neither the Atlantic. Really were the commerce with China and the India trough Manila, in silver ingot. That were the traditional way of exchange in Asia. And thinking that the richest city in america was Méjico, Lima, etc... and that the ruin of hispanic américa comes better from the Manifest destiny that from the English conspiracy. In the Treat of Utrech English have won enough rigths over the american comerce. Note that Spain preserve untill finish of XIXth Philippines, Cuba, and the Ocean Pacific Island and not was England the power that take the Philippines to get into Asia for the great door, but USA. Talking about it, the problem for Spain to get Gibraltar again come not from UK better because the Gibraltar people don't want to pass from a Parlamentary System (with many advantages for them) as the English. To a oligarchie that is not a democracy, as we suffer in spain for 40 years.. If we should change the democratic system in a future, the Gibraltar People will clame to left the UK, and come to Spain. (note that sometimes is imposible to talk about history (Or military History), without talk of politic. before is in most part the history of political affaires. The case of Ceuta y Melilla is more complicated but is political, because USA and France , the Rif and other factors, religious in special are here and there. Anyway and basically, I would say that the most interested power in those places remind spanish is the monarchy of Morocco. And always France and USA are in the middle, of course. Saludos
  7. Spanish officers 1917

    Hello Bayern I don't think have been England or other countrie the responsible of the "maldicón", maybe in the Portuguese fact it have been this way. And not was only England the country that support Fernando VI, better were all the european monarchies in the Viena Congress (the new european order after Napoleón) the ones that crush the liberal mouvement in Spain through the "One hundred thousand sons of Saint Louis (Los Cien Mil Hijos de San Luis), thta were french. The independence of America were not such, better was a transfer of power between Spain and the local oligarchies, via civil war between liberals and monarchic that cut into pieces an empire that works very well economically and politically was near to get a big nation and not 20. Like the canada or other british dominions, without any war or problem. The british only can help the rebelds but didn't were decisive as in the three hundred years before that French,English, Hollanders couln't catch any important city or part of the Empire. Mainly because the local people was who defended the Empire, as In Buenos Aires througt the local militia and not the spanish army that were just in some strong holes and were very weak. (not the Navy). Anyway the traditional enmity with the UK that was friendship before the "Invencible" and María Estuardo. Could change but the bad luck ,france and the weak of spanish governments make the things as it were. Anyway the history of Spanish decadence, that come for many factors is bad nowadays for all Europe. I hope it will be change soon or... never.
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  9. Spanish officers 1917

    Hello Bayern You are very right about the Agreement of Vergara, but it likes there is a curse in the spanish history from that is impossible to go away. Amadeo de Saboya In this film (in spanish) You can see a new italian dynasty, bring to Spain for general Prim (liberal), that was death few time after Amadeo Comes, and could'nt stand this new way to think, much more european and competent that fall in the demoralization general that submerge Spain after the Fernando VI rule and that you can see in "los caprichos" de Goya, it is like a demon that always is there to stop any progress to the nation. Caprichos de Goya About The military career since centuries and in special since the last civil war works with the endogamy by flag as near all the services to the state that pass (triking) from father to son,with the problems it bring as incompetence and ignorance. And are really near to impossible to correct, because the cowardice of people in general, tha6t is a genetical problem even. Cause in the wars use to die the best, and the new generation is composed of sons of the surviving, that probably were cowards or worse. About the soldier, in a professional army, that is better a mercenary army as the spanish, you don't find reflected the society as in a national army, just the worse and fooler finish in the army that don't pay enough ans so long to be an steady job. Of course the officcers spend all their life in the army casue is very safe for them and finish soon waiting for a very good retirement. And this is a problem, I think, for some reason I don't have clera that have a lot of hispanic countries, like Méjico or La Argentina. Regards
  10. Spanish officers 1917

    One comment or several about spanish army. 1) Bayern comment that the SpAr suffer of macrocephal. This is very true and maybe the reason are that is based in french system since as least since Napoleón III. Better is a "latin" system that is very different in thinking to the anglosaxon... By example officers from Second Lieutenat to captain are called Oficiales (Officers), not subaltern officers , and from mayor to colonel they are called chiefs (Jefes). The centre of spanish ranking is the mayor or commandante (chief de batallón). They are the called in english and USA system "Comissioned Officers". Then when an army finish a war (civil by example) Soldiers go home but many people stay as "chusqueros" or invalid or simplily, the Academy produce too much officers and sub-officers. 2) The comission in the spanish army doesn't exist in the sense you received an order to occupied a position by your directly superior, as can be the colonel. They have to be "comissioned" by an superior geenral school (La Academai General Militar) where you get the rank of First Leutenant, then go to an specialist academy as la "Academia de infantería de Toledo" for infantry, or Guardia Civil,etc. the non - comissioned officers as sub-oficcers too. They only can be changed of ranks by a High Tribunal. This is the theory. 3) These officcers are called "de carrera" the same that in the goverment employee, that win his rank in an "Exam", and never lost the post even if they kill their mothers (I am FC and knows what happen with this theme). Is very difficult that an oficial o funcionario de carrera be convicted because other funcionarios form the court marcial or not marcial. And "Hoy por tí y mañana por mí" Today for me and maybe tomorrow for you. It don't mean the system is bad for itself, but make people run away problems and sometimes don't work. 4)Well we have the "Oficiales de carrera" and "suboficiales de Carrera" that can come into generals the first and to major the second one, with the time and in special if they have some "help" in the General promotions. Anyway the pillar of the army are the Lieutenant colonel and the sergeant, I think as in all armies. In Spain the Sergeant when past to Brigade or more , leaves the arms and get the papers. And the bottle sometimes. Here between a Sergeant and a soldier there are a lot of diferences as least in "My no-profesional army" (I am talking about the 80 when it was an army) A Sergeant or first C. can command a tank or a platoon. And suboficial a mean from Brigada to subteniente are administrative post in any "empleo", the company in special brigada is the chief administrative, since 30 years you can be brigada, more or less. They don't have to fight if is not necesary. The ranks and the post of a soldier is by example a soldier can ascend to corporal after a course ( recommended by the chief of company) this is the rank (non-comissioned) the soldiers are soldiers and are the only men that work in the army are really less than in the others armies, first soldiers, caporals and first-caporals are the called "Clases" and they don't work and just make guards of "door". (that is their penalty cause they fall by thousand all days) About punishment and penalties for the soldiers and clases this page (that I put before) this web is very interesting and shows that the spanish army is RIP and the people that managed it come from Mars or Plenty-Moon nowadays. I will translate some selected parts later. http://www.am-tm.es/node?page=4
  11. Spanish officers 1917

    I don't remember about german army, but in a b&W photo is difficult to difference the cockades, etc... You are the expert. The spanish army, and is a pity for me, the oldest modern army in Europe and maybe the best have lost all traditions even since the civil war. Better I leave my mouth shot. Regards
  12. Spanish officers 1917

    Infantry, General staff, Artillerie, Engeneer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coats_of_arms,_badges_and_emblems_of_Spanish_Armed_Forces The officer of the general staff is a colonel, the artillerist is a lieutenant-colonel and the engeneer is a subaltern officer. Subaltern officers had six-pointed stars, staff officers eight-pointed stars Hello, as Sorando maybe is death, or not, I will try to say all I know about the photos. The first officer is a german general The second is a infantry spanish officer, maybe a mayor, the rank insignia was in the cuffs. The third is a lieutenant colonel of staff The fourth is a mayor from artillery The fifth is (surely captain or mayor) of artillerie The sixth is (surely a capitan or mayor) off engineer. The period is surely, the first war war. Sources: http://www.am-tm.es/node?page=4 https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academia_de_Infantería_de_Toledo http://www.ejercito.mde.es/unidades/Zaragoza/agm/Historial/index.html http://museoaviacionmilitarespaola.blogspot.com.es/2012_11_01_archive.html AGM.bmp
  13. Spanish officers 1917

    Hello, I know more or less the history of love and hate between Argentina and Chile. The people is very different as I could see in Chile. They consider the argentinos that goes to their country as very right people in general. They have take up all tourist zones. I was in the Araucania and Santiago and is really a special county for the empty spaces that in Europe is difficult to imagine. I had as less a good argentine friend here, from Cordova. She come from a mixture of italians and spanish ancestors. In La araucania, I saw, as Villarica, many people that looks german and speak spanish very funny. Maybe you know this italian-spanish film about Lautaro and Valdivia. Interesting film. La Araucana
  14. Spanish officers 1917

    Thanks Bayern, was just curiosity. I have been in Chile, but not in Argentine.
  15. Spanish officers 1917

    I have a revue too that named all the companys founded by german emigrants in my city (Zaragoza) in times of ww1. Was all famous even now. Coffee, tools, etc.. also, there is a german cemetery here from WW1 and other Italian from WW2 in a church-panteón. My uncle of america have not luck with germans, because he get ruin with his german compadre trying to sell a piece for cars that supossed to finish with pollution in cities and was just a kind of screew. It likes you don't have to pray any special prayer or go to the church for van special saint, it works just alone. Well better it didn't works at all, and broken the carburettor in hours. I know because they used all familie cars to try the artifact. My father was very noise with them. At last he come back to America (Venezuela) but there was not a war (remember the List of Schindler, Schindler Elevators and Wagons was other company founded in Zaragoza by German emigrants) and there was not jews, then he go on very pòor. (as his german friend that come back to germany) (I will look for the magazine)