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Eric Stahlhut

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  1. alternate title for this thread: "in the time of chimpanzees, i was a monkey" i'm super stoked to have this. i consider it comparable in rarity to this other arcane item: anyways, i haven't been able to glean much information on this particular organization. given the times, i'm sure it wasn't too big of an outfit, but it serves as a great example of how it seems imperative that every german group had to have some type of award or medal. it illustrates the german propensity and predilection for medals and bling anyhow, here's the subject. nonmagnetic, finished in chocolate bronze, made by lauer of nurnberg. ribbon is cream and purple, which gives me the idea that there may be some religious affiliation. "the league of non-frontfighters"......anyone have any info on it? sorry about the horizontal images, they are correct on my computer, but when posting them on this forum, they magically go sideways
  2. here's an image of the corresponding document:
  3. i noticed that in my first post i neglected to include that sometimes these crosses are also attributed to c.f. zimmerman. anyhow, here's another that i find interesting due to the fact that the front frame is silver while the rear frame is of silvered brass. pin appears to be silver.
  4. when the topic of iron crosses made in austria arises, most people think of rothe and neffe, and few people are aware of another firm that manufactured and marketed them, perhaps as these crosses were also sold to resellers, such as f. sedlatzek in berlin, who stamped them with their own mark. "Erste Osterreichisch-Ungarische Metallknopfe- und Metallwaren-Fabrik Heinrich Ulbricht's Witwe, Wien" ...sometimes marked, "HUW" or "UW" this obscure maker made high quality crosses in many grades of silver, including 800, 900, 930, 935, "SILBER". interestingly enough, they are often automatically attributed to sedlatzek, as that berlin firm is more widely recognized. they came with many different types of advanced, peculiar, and attractive attachment systems, and are very desirable to advanced collectors these days. according to konstantin nikolaev, who in his magnificent two-volume opus on the iron cross (vol. 1, chapter. 31, pages 445-463), he attributes several styles and variations to this maker, including the unmarked version below.
  5. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Iron-Cross-1870-Germany-original/253729533409?hash=item3b13756de1:g:78YAAOSw1NJbPJBo
  6. superbly mounted piece to a flanders veteran
  7. hard to find, seldom encountered! such self-purchased "vanity awards" for non-combatants seem to be quite rare.
  8. very interesting indeed. well done!
  9. a superbly worn example hand-engraved, the most seldom seen version of hallmark from this maker... ...with a few of it's cousins, the mayers
  10. thank you for the correction, matthew. when i made the post back in 2008 i was probably using a nimmergut or niemann catalog for reference, which most likely had very limited or inaccurate information. and thank you for reviving this old thread with an updated and detailed summary!
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    a sedlatzek and its cousins

    thank you. here is another cousin, who despite having been not worn so much, deserves to be included in this gathering. some say sedlatzek, others say mayer p.s. note the rounded inner corners of the frame. seems to be found primarily on screwback examples
  12. here's something i got a while back from an esteemed fellow forum member. not because of it's aesthetic value, mind you ! i obtained it because you simply don't see a lot of these in zinc.
  13. Eric Stahlhut

    der Deutschen Ehrenlegion

    hiya, chris! nope, the austrian-made version is larger at 48 x 46mm. gilding worn down to base metal, which appears to be tombac
  14. 46 x 41mm. there were three versions of this. this one is the generic example. the other two were for 'ritterschaft furst bismark' and 'ritterschaft leipzig'. as far as i can tell, the only way two distinguish the difference from the three types is to look at the bottom of the central disc. my example has a dot. i know the the bismark version has a w, so i presume the leipzig version has something to denote it as well.
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    der Deutschen Ehrenlegion

    pretty excited to have found this, simply because of the obscure austrian maker. seldom encountered! i edited the reverse image in order to show the hallmark a bit more clearly.
  16. then why is the obverse of the badge fairly shiny and bright after nearly 100 years? no signs or smells indicating recent cleaning--- one would think that being made of brass it would be extremely tarnished. the reverse certainly is tarnished, but not the obverse. the silver half moon and letter band are somewhat tarnished, as would be expected from silver or silver plate.
  17. ...and in jewelry terms, "echtgold auflage" means gold plated... i couldn't imagine they were worried about knockoffs, but if they were, that could explain why their brand seems to be the most replicated of all the makers
  18. a nice shiny meybauer version, am assuming the incused "echte auflage" mark under the catch indicates gold plating
  19. wow, i've never seen that one before, either! my best guess is that it could very well be a weimar-era military vet's organization award, and this picture was taken during the very early, initial stages of the third reich. only thing missing on this character is his monocle! here's a link to something similar, but absolutely not the same as the above cross that charles is curious about, which could have enameled arms
  20. it's a steinhauer and lueck badge from the 1930s, it's good