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  1. Thanks for pointing out the two King Fuad II in exile orders! I skimmed through the catalog photos but missed that in the text. So the only difference is in the presentation boxes, not the orders themselves?
  2. Going through my collection and files the other day, I realized I had quite a bit of material on Egypt's Palestine War campaign medal, so thought I might try to put it all together here. Hope it's of some interest. The Palestine Medal was the first modern Egyptiancampaign medal, for service in the 1948-1949 Arab-Israeli war (aka Palestine War, War of Israeli Independence). For collectors this medal is one of the most commonly-seen andwidely-available modern Egyptian medals. (Also, interestingly, it is usually found with the ribbon intact, unlikemany other modern Egyptian medals.) This availability leads me to conclude that it was widely issued toEgyptian military personnel (again, unlike most other modern Egyptian service medals, which seem to mostly exist in ribbon form.) The exact criteria are unknown – for example, whatperiod of time and geographic area qualified, or whether Egyptian civilianssuch as the Muslim Brotherhood volunteers were eligible. The meaning of the distinctive shape of the medalis unknown. It is an irregularseven-sided shape, which may represent a stylized outline of the Old City ofJerusalem. Dimensions are 45mm at the widest point, and 36mmat the tallest (not counting the suspension.) The ribbon is 37mm wide, with equal stripes ofgreen, red, yellow, red, and green. The meaning of the ribbon colors are also unknown. The colors of the Egyptian flag at thetime was green and white. ThePalestinian national flag is red, white, black, and green. The first group of images here are from what looks like a trial design for the medal, by the designer Tawfiq Bichay. These images are taken from an internet auctionwebsite, back in 2004. If I recall, this piece wasconsiderably larger than the actual medal, more like a clay or bronze model rather than the actual medal itself. The obverse features an obliqueview of King Farouq, though a rather unflattering one, with heavily-lidded eyesand rather comical mustache. (Ican see why King Farouq may have asked the designer to go back to the drawingboard.) Otherwise it's identical to the design used on the actual medal itself.
  3. ChrisW

    The Egyptian Palestine Medal

    Paul, Egypt only issued campaign medals for the 1948 war and the 1973 war. The Victory Medal was issued to commemorate the first anniversary of the UK/French withdrawal from Suez in Dec. 1956 war, but there wasn't an actual medal for that war itself. And the 1967 war, Egypt didn't have much to celebrate about that. Best, Chris
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    Idenification please

    The first one says "Public Security, Abu Dhabi."
  5. This probably will be little more than the existing Navy Day medal with a brass disk on the ribbon with the Arabic number "50." http://www.sis.gov.eg/Story/130766?lang=en-us 29 May 2018: President Abdel Fattah El Sisi decreed issuing a commemorative Golden Jubilee medal for the Egyptian naval forces on the occasion of the 50th anniversary of the sinking of Israeli Eilat destroyer. The medal will be awarded to all members of the naval forces in service on October 21, 2017.
  6. She's definitely got a unique style, but he's wearing all the bling. He's a major general in the Air Defense Forces, wearing full-sized medals of the Military Star, Military Medal of Courage, Medal of Military Duty and Medal of Training. I'm having a little trouble placing the order around his neck -- Order of Merit? He's also got an unusual rectangular cloth or medal patch underneath the Air Defense Forces shield on his arm. I haven't gone through the ribbons in detail but they include most of the standard Egyptian commemorative and service awards from the 1950s and 1960s. Chris
  7. Hello all, Wondering if anyone has seen any North Koreans wearing medals issued by Middle Eastern countries? North Korea had military advisors in Egypt and Syria, and possibly Iraq and other countries, during the 1970s-1980s. I suspect that some of the North Korean pilots working in Egypt (who reportedly were involved in some combat missions against Israeli aircraft) received Egyptian medals or certificates. If there are existing threads or posts here in GMIC I’d appreciate being pointed in the right direction, as this is not my usual stomping ground within GMIC. Thanks, Chris
  8. The Egyptian military and police forces have been heavily engaged in domestic counterterrorism operations since the 2011 revolution, and in July 2014 officially declared their own "war on terrorism." Probably over 2,000 soldiers and policemen have been killed, and thousands more wounded, since then, along with many civilians. But the Egyptian Armed Forces have not awarded any conventional gallantry medals for these operations, nor have they awarded either of their two decorations for being wounded in action (a red-diamond shaped badge and the Medal for War Wounded). They have commemorated some soldiers in other ways, using certificates, plaque-style awards, monetary gifts, etc. The reasons are unknown but probably are due at least in part to the Egyptian government not considering their counterterrorism operations as a major armed conflict but an internal fight. (The rhetoric and politics of Egypt's "war on terrorism" are outside the scope of this forum....) However, that seems to have recently changed. According to a new law published last week in the Official Gazette, and noted in an article by one of the very few independent Egyptian news outlets left, The law established a medal called “Long Live Egypt” to honor military and police personnel as well as civilians who “display acts of bravery and sacrifice in the face of terrorist operations.” Winners of the first degree medal will be entitled to a monthly reward of LE2,000, and runner ups will be awarded LE1,000 monthly. (source: https://www.madamasr.com/en/2018/03/15/news/politics/egypt-imposes-taxation-fund-to-honor-martyrs-finance-compensation-scheme-for-victims-families/) No further details on what the medal looks like, when it might be awarded, etc....
  9. A quick update: On 6 May the Armed Forces spokesman posted on their Facebook page an announcment for what seems to be a design competition for this medal. Facebook's translation, below, isn't the best, but it seems to be a coin-type medal rather than a wearable one.
  10. Lukasz, The first ribbon is actually the Order of Liberation commemorating the 1952 Revolution, with the gold palm leaf for officers; this is one of the most commonly-seen ribbons among modern Egyptian medals, and almost always occupies the first spot in a ribbon bar. The Sinai Star ribbon is horizontal stripes of red/white/black. Antonio Prieto's ribbon chart is a useful guide.
  11. 922F and Rusty, Many thanks for identifying this! It hadn't occurred to me it could be a foreign award. Perhaps our general was a military attache in Riyadh.
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    United Arab Republic-Order of Merit

    Nick, Thanks for sharing this, and tough luck about being outbid at the last minute. That can be very frustrating, I know. This is a UAR era award, from the (Egyptian) Military Technical College. It looks like the brass bar at the top has some writing on it but I can't read it. Awards like this are commonly given to the top students from each graduating class, and also probably to some faculty or guests. Because Czechoslovakia did provide considerable support to Egypt during the UAR era, I would agree with you that a Czech or Slovak expert was presented with this award. Best, Chris
  13. Thanks, Owain! I've also done some searching in Arabic without luck either. The Official Gazette unfortunately isn't available online, as far as I can tell. Perseverance, and luck, is the order of the day when researching Arab awards. Chris
  14. Last week, Egypt awarded the first Sinai Star -- its highest military gallantry medal -- since 1978. It's also the first Sinai Star for actions during the 1973 war awarded since 1974. (The 1978 awards were to commandos who participated in a hostage rescue in Cyprus.) Just as interesting, the recipient was an Egyptian version of a US Navajo Code Talker. https://egyptianchronicles.blogspot.com/2017/10/1973-war-special-nubian-sergeant.html
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    Egyptian badge

    Ancient Egyptian influence on modern Egyptian military insignia -- that would be an interesting topic, Egyptian Zogist! And good job coming up with three examples so quickly. There are some Army and Air Force unit emblems with ancient Egyptian motifs, and on officers' caps, where most countries have "scrambled eggs" (gold oak leaves) on the brim, the Egyptians have gold lotus blossoms. I may start a separate thread on this topic! Thanks for the inspiration.
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    Egyptian badge

    To be honest, Tony, this does look like a tourist piece. Or costume jewelry or some other piece of fantasy Egyptomania. The figure and symbols only bear a vague similarity to Ancient Egypt, and it may just as easily represent a fantasy Aztec.
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    Kingdom of Egypt (1922-1953)

    You're both spot-on. North Korea remodeled the Military Museum at the Citadel around 1988/89 -- which used to be a nice place -- and also helped with the October War Panorama a decade later. North Korea was repaying a debt to Egypt: Egypt sold them Scud missiles, which were the basis of the entire North Korean ballistic missile program of today. Who got the better end of that deal?
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    Kingdom of Egypt (1922-1953)

    Rusty, Glad that link was helpful. The page would seem to show the collection of medals held at the Bibliotheca Alexandrina (there are similar pages for online collections of photographs, books, audio and video files). There's an English language page here, but it has much less content. http://www.bibalex.org/en/default You could try contacting someone via that page. I have not actually been to the library, so cannot confirm if the medals are on public display, in storage, or even physically at the library. Chris
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    Kingdom of Egypt (1922-1953)

    Bayern, Is this the work you're talking about? It's a very nice website and deserves to be shared here. https://www.ottoman-uniforms.com
  20. Knowing very little about this medal, is it possible that this is a 1970s-era version, when the Libyan flag's colors were red/white/black? And the green-centered ones reflect the all-green flag adopted in 1977?
  21. Thanks as always, Owain. You've added an intriguing aspect to this story (and a beautiful photo as well!)
  22. Egypt's Military Order of the Republic (al-wisaam al-gomhouriya al-‘askariia) was established specifically as a unit award. According to the Egyptian medals protocols, it “may be granted to any military unit or formation for outstanding achievements.” It comes in a single class. It is identical to the Order of the Republic, First Class, with the addition of a five-pointed star on the lower part of the order. It could be considered a separate class of the Order of the Republic. The Order of the Republic was created in 1953, and presumably the Military Order of the Republic was created at the same time or shortly afterwards. The earliest record of its existence I’ve been able to trace is from 1964. (References: Egyptian Decorations & Medals and the Rules Governing Them, Presidency of the Arab Republic of Egypt, Cabinet of the Grand Chamberlain, 1983; Samah abd al-Rahman al-Liqaani, Mausua’a al-Qala’id wal-Niyashin wal-Osama wal-Nuat wal-Midaaliyyat al-Masriyya, Cairo, 2015) When awarded to a unit, the medal is directly attached to that unit’s flag. Unlike unit awards in some countries such as the USA, personnel assigned to the recipient unit do not wear some variation of the medal on their uniform. However, there does appear to be a buttonhole rosette for the medal’s ribbon (seen above), which could be worn when in civilian dress. Here is the Order of the Republic, for comparison. The only difference is the lack of the star. EXAMPLES OF AWARDS Several specific awards of the Military Order of the Republic are known, both to Egyptian and non-Egyptian Arab units. YEMEN WAR (1962-1967) The Military Order of the Republic probably was first issued on a large scale during Egypt’s war in Yemen (1962-1967), judging from period photos. Here's President Nasser pinning the Military Order of the Republic on the flag of an unidentified Egyptian Air Force, probably for operations in Yemen, in June 1964. (Photo credit: Al-Quwwat al-Musalahah magazine, July 1964) And at the same ceremony, on 18 June 1964, President Nasser awarding the Military Order of the Republic to an unidentified Egyptian Navy unit or ship, again for Yemen operations. (Photo credit: President Nasser photo archive at the Bibliotheca Alexandrina) Same ceremony, Nasser decorating the flag of an unidentified Egyptian Army commando battalion. (Photo credit: President Nasser photo archive at the Bibliotheca Alexandrina)
  23. ChrisW

    SUDAN official medals website

    (These may already be known to people, and I hesitated if I should post this here or in the Middle East section, so apologies if necessary on both counts.) I came across two medal related pages on the Sudan Presidency website. The third page (of recipients) is empty, and the English language versions of the pages aren't complete, but it's an easy task to put these pages into Google Translate. http://www.presidency.gov.sd/ara/medals-decorations http://www.presidency.gov.sd/ara/page/About-Medallions
  24. Paja, The Arabic reads "Air College" (al-kuliyya al-gawiyya). Judging by the roundel and the silhouette (a Mirage III or V) it's probably from Libya. Regards, Chris
  25. OCTOBER 1973 WAR Interestingly, all the known awards for the 1973 war are to non-Egyptian units, but this probably is simply because these awards received more press coverage (as a goodwill gesture.) It seems almost certain that a large number of Egyptian units also received awards, but they just didn’t receive as much press coverage. A Presidential decree of 18 February 1974 bestowed the Military Order of the Republic on select Egyptian, Syrian and other Arab units that distinguished themselves in fighting during the October 1973 war. (Cairo Press Review, 19 Feb. 1974; Cairo Press Review, 20 Feb. 1974) It was awarded to the Sudanese infantry brigade that served on the Egyptian front in the war, in an August 1974 ceremony. (Cairo Domestic Service, 5 Aug. 1974) The Kuwaiti battalion that served on the Egyptian front also received the medal in a ceremony in October 1974. (Cairo Press Review, 11 Oct. 1974) No photos unfortunately! POST-1973 AWARDS The Military Order of the Republic also has been awarded for non-combat service. In April 1995, the Egyptian Army's 166th Mechanized Infantry Battalion received it following a 14 month deployment to Somalia as part of the United Nations Operation in Somalia (UNOSOM). (Al Ahram Weekly, 25-31 May 1995) That's all I have in my notes, thus endeth this mini-article... for now.