Have now added a few more to my meager collection, some HJ and Gua. Managed to locate a cream version of the one mentioned above, so will post some pictures when it arrives. Each time i check the web sites there are more that catch my eye, have thought about certain types to specialise in but i see one i like and that idea goes out of the window. Have been pointed in the right direction to some good sites (Thanks Ian) over in Germany, so hopefully my small collection will continue to grow.