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    GdC26

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    1. I agree with that, - the question is post which war, and how long post that war ..... As already explained, that is not how this works - there is no presumption of originality, originality has to be proven. Unless new evidence is adduced, I think we've gone full circle and will now restart the loop .... Kind regards, Sandro
    2. I think Enzo, Tomas and I are talking facts, not engaging on speculation about what might have been. The facts are as Enzo, Tomas and I have stated, and they don’t confirm the authenticity of the dedication (which in itself has two issues requiring explanation: the reference to a famous Russian early aviation pioneer and the reference to the year 1908, a time when (international) aviation was still in its infancy, and international meets had not started yet. A further issue, of course, is why that engraving would appear on an Austrian aviation badge issued some 8-10 years later). The rest, frankly, are matters of speculation, preference and belief. As said, a lot of things are possible, but absent further proof, concluding that the engraving is original seems a stretch. And this wouldn’t be the first original item that has been embellished to enhance its market value. I’m keeping an open mind, but on the evidence presented Occam’s razor leads me to believe for now that the latter is the more plausible thesis. Let’s see what further factual and verifiable evidence the owner or others adduce in support of the alternative view. Kind regards, Sandro
    3. Many things are possible, of course, but I not sure that that is how this works - assume it is good until proven otherwise. Normally, it is the other way around ..... "buy the item, not the story"? Unless there is some sound evidence on the history and provenance of this piece, for reasons stated by Tomas and Enzo, it should be approached with a healthy dosis of skepticism in my view. Especially since Mr. Popov was not exactly a nobody in Russian aviation history, from the looks of it, and so I gather, did not fly in the Russian air service during WWI, and no other connection with Austria has so far been established. Enzo's summary of the evidence before us strikes me as accurate: we have a 1917 original military aircrew badge with a hand-engraved deduction, made out to a famous Russian civilian flight engineer/pioneer to commemorate something that purportedly happened in 1908 (and thus has nothing to do with the badge). Without further information/proof (on the giver, on the event, on Popov 1908's connection with Austria, etc.). What doesn't help is that the first international aeronautical week took place in 1909, the second in 1911 - so that avenue does not seem to be open, either: https://airandspace.si.edu/stories/editorial/1909-first-major-international-flying-meet https://feefhs.org/index.php/resource/russia-blitz-first-aviators I'll keep an open mind, of course, but for the reasons set out above, originality will have to be proven in my view, and cannot be assumed. Kind regards, Sandro
    4. Or it might be a well engraved fantasy to boost value, I guess ……? Great research, thanks Tomas. Kind regards, Sandro
    5. Not hard to do, and a courtesy to GJW: we are, after all, all gentlemen here? Kind regards, Sandro Can I suggest we stop highjacking GJW's thread, and that you open your own thread on your book project? Not hard to do, and a courtesy to GJW: we are, after all, all gentlemen here? Kind regards, Sandro Ok, somehow my post got messed up. What I meant to write was: Hello RedNoseScout, Well done on promoting your book project, which if real and thorough, sounds like it might be a good addition to the literature on the topic. Can I suggest we stop highjacking GJW's thread, and that you open your own thread on your book project? Not hard to do, and a courtesy to GJW: we are, after all, all gentlemen here? Kind regards, Sandro
    6. I think some caution is in order: see RedNoseScout’s contribution to the thread below. @RedNoseScout: what happened to the German WWI aviation book you said you were working on in the thread below: “I am putting together a book on my collection. It is strictly WW1 German Aviation”? And why highjack someone else’s thread to present your items? BTW, do you mean Karl Urban: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Urban_(aviator) who, as it happened, had an Otto Jaeger as observer?
    7. Christian is correct. Kind regards, Sandro
    8. Kleine Dekoration zum Großkreuz des SEHO"s, perhaps? King Ferdinand of Bulgaria had one - with swords, of course (pic and description ex Zeige). The new shot posted above shows what could be lions, and the ribbon w in both pics could be a match (unlike the ribbon for the Greek order of the Redemeer, which is blue and white). Kind regards, Sandro Herzoglich Sachsen-Ernestinischer Hausorden, Kleindekoration zum Großkreuz mit Schwertern "E" Sachsen-Coburg und Gotha aus dem Besitz des Zaren Ferdinand I. von Bulgarien. Kreuz Gold emailliert, Kreuzarme mit kleinen Chips, durchbrochene Krone, am Dreiecksband, im Verleihungsetui mit goldgeprägter Krone. Bekanntlich war die Firma Rothe in Wien der Hoflieferant des Zaren und so wurde auch diese Dekoration in Wien angefertigt. Provenienz: "Collection of King Ferdinand I. of Bulgaria", Sothebys London 1998 Los 231.
    9. Dear all, I'm composing a list of the awards of Pier Ruggero Piccio, Italy's third air ace of WWI. What I have so far is: 1911/1912: Commemorative Medal of the Italo-Turkish war 1911/1912: Bronze Medaglia al Valore Militare (Medal for Military Valor) May to August 1915: Bronze Medaglia al Valore Militare 18 October 1916: Silver Medaglia al Valore Militare: First award 5 May 1918: Gold Medaglia al Valore Militare June 1918: Silver Medaglia al Valore Militare: Second award 17 May 1919: Officer of the Military Order of Savoy (A.D. - Aeronautical; Knight: 28 February 1918) 20 November 1924: Commander of the Order of the S.S. Maurice and Lazarus (Knight: 11 June 1922) 29 September 1935: Grand Cross of the Order of the Crown of Italy (Grand Officer: 28 January 1926; Commander: 5 September 1923; Officer: 17 May 1919; Knight: 31 December 1914) Commander of the French Legion d'Honneur (March) 1923: Polish order Virtuti Militari 4th class Silver military long-distance air navigation award, second degree Please, can you help me complete the list? And does anyone have the number for the Virtuti Militari 4th class awarded to Pier Ruggiero Piccio, please? Many thanks for your help as always. Kind regards, Sandro
    10. Glenn, That is most generous. I’ll send you my e-mail later tonight. That said, my offer stands should you change your mind and decide to relaunch the site. Kind regards, Sandro
    11. Hi Glenn, Many thanks, very much appreciated. I know your site has many fans, so if there are things people can do to keep it in the air, please let us know. I, for one, would not mind paying a reasonable annual subscription to keep it open. Kind regards, Sandro
    12. A dear friend, fellow member and fellow fan of the site altered me to the fact that Glenn's fantastic site http://www.austro-hungarian-army.co.uk appears to be down. Glenn, is that a temporary issue or should we be worried? Kind regards, Sandro
    13. Many thanks, hucks216, much appreciated. Further views invited. Kind regards, Sandro
    14. Can I please solicit views on the authenticity (or otherwise) of the preliminary award document for award of the RK to Walter Grabman shown in the pics below? Pics posted with kind permission of the seller. Many thanks in advance, kind regards, Sandro
    15. I hope Komtur doesn't mind but what I think I see are: Preussen, Roter Adler Orden Komturkreuz Preussen, Kronenorden Komturkreuz Italien, Kronenorden Komturkreuz ? (looks to be a Russian order?) The little medal on the lapel looks to be the Mitgliedsabzechen der Kaiser Wilhelm Gesellschaft zur Förderung der Wissenschaften - Compliments to Komtur for a great threat. Kind regards, Sandro
    16. It indeed looks like a (disassembled) Gotha Go 242, probably indeed the glider version: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gotha_Go_242 Pics of that aircraft are uncommon, but they do come by occasionally. Nice pic, congrats. Kind regards, Sandro
    17. Dear Triadoro, Your aims seem laudable, your methods less so: this is after all a Gentleman's club, there is a hint in the name .... As regards research, suum cuique, there is rarely just one way that leads to the light, and it is clear that many members are trying to help Iulian in his efforts attribute the chain. Kind regards, Sandro
    18. Not sure why you feel the need to take or make this personal, but whatever the reason, this is not the way of this Forum. Kind regards, Sandro
    19. Very interesting information indeed, many thanks for sharing, Christian. Kind regards, Sandro
    20. I think this is very probably true. That said, the flower depicted could be the Lippische Rose - but I don't immediately recall any awards from Lippe that are shaped like this. Nevertheless, perhaps a placeholder for a lost Lippe award? Kind regards, Sandro
    21. Japan, Order of the Sacred Treasure, I think. Not sure what class. https://www.emedals.com/japan-an-order-of-the-sacred-treasure-5th-class Kind regards, Sandro
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