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    The Prussian

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    1. Hi,

      Plenty of things can happen to make life unusual ;-)

      Wounded and sent back to a hospital in germany and landing up there... going to a cousins wedding on leave... some type of Lehrgang... stopping in there in the way from East to West front... there are so many anomolies in life that we cannot even think of....

      Hi Chris! Of course, there are some possibilities. We can´t know... Which wine shows you a 16, please? I´d like to have a good wine too, but here it is 9pm and I will have toi get up at 4am... :(

    2. E Williams:

      No, the MGSS were set-up at the beginning of 1916. The school was in Rozoy (set up ocotber 1916), it was called MGSS Kommando West. It later came to Tongern.

      Here is the list of the bavarian MGSS:

      bav. MGSS Abtl. 1 (former Nr.1 of Armee-Abtl. C) - from MGSS-Trupps 46, 187 and 188 - 1.october 1916 - 1st bav. Inf.Div.

      bav. MGSS Abtl. 2 (former Nr.137 of 2.Armdee) - from MGSS -Trupps 137, 189 and 190 - 7.october 1916 - 2nd bav.Inf.Div.

      bav. MGSS Abtl. 3 (former Nr.2 of Armee-Abtl. Strantz) - from MGSS-Trupps 42, 43, 193 - 24.november 1916 - 1st bav. Landwehr-Division

      bav. MGSS Abtl. 4 (former MGSSAbtl. 1st bav.Ldw.Div. of Armme-Abtl. Strantz) - from MGSS Trupps 135, 136, 138 - ocotber 1916 - 1st bav. Ldw.Div.

    3. That makes sense, but I don´t understand, why they created a wrong shoulder strap??? The 19 with a bomb can´t be squared ones! Never! But here is the proof...

      I know why Rick said, "never collect foot artillery"... Here is a list of those unites, set-up by Fott-artillery regiment 19:

      Peace formation:

      2. Sächs. Fußart.Rgt.Nr.19

      Regiments:

      Fußart.Rgt.19

      Res.Fußart.Rgt.19

      Independent bataillons:

      58, 64, 96, 104, 105, 107, 160, 404, Landwehr 19, Landwehr 67, Ersatz 19, Landsturm XII.AK

      Independent batteries:

      123, 298, 440-442, 494, 508, 567, 587, 625, 685, 695, 740, 753, 788, 789, 1015

      Other:

      Park-Kompanie Res.19, , Landwehr 19, 45, 115, 142, Lichtmeßtrupp 44, Schallmeßtrupp 23, 110

      Maybe we have on of the other 19ers???

    4. Andy, good questions. I went with FAR 19 since there is not an "R" on the pickelhaube cover with the 19. I am a bit confused as to why the mixture of uniforms and a reserve unit or a munitions column would make sense... Perhaps a munitions column for FAR 19? Didn't artillery firing batteries also have the carbine?

      Here's a shot of the shoulder strap of the old guy lying in front... Looks like embroidery to me...not metal.

      Slontcha IrishGunner!

      Well, so it´s not reserve. BUT, why does he have saxon shoulder boards and saxon cuffs?????

      The Feldart.Rgt.19 came from Erfurt (XI.AK)

      If the Ammo colums were mounted, thex had carbines too.

      But this night I won´t get any sleep because of the saxon-question! :whistle:

    5. Hi IrishGunner!

      Are you sure with FAR19?

      The lying man has a pre-war uniform

      They all have a carbine (mounted troops)

      Most of them are much older than the left and the right one

      Maybe there is a brass number upon the lying mens shoulder strap, so we have the Res.Feldart.Rgt.19

      But why does the lying man wearing saxon cuffs???

      Because of they are quite old, I assume it is an ammo column

    6. Oh, yes! That was too easy to see... :whistle:

      That makes sense! The Kraftfahr-Ers.Abtl.Nr.1 was responsible for each Sturmpanzer-Kraftwagen-Abteilung.

      But I haven´t read anything about a Rekruten-Depot of the Kraftfahrer. But in the book "Sturmpanzerwagen A7V - Vom Urpanzer zum Leopard 2", I read, that the introduction in tanks were in Charleroi and the last driving-lessons were told in the rear areas of the front. That might be the Rekruten-Depots.

      Later they had Ersatz-formations in Hannover and Munich too, as well as a new "Off-road driving school" in Braunschweig (middle of 1918)

    7. Nice? That´s amazing!!!!!! Thanks for showing!!!

      Here again the dates of the detachment:

      Order of the war-ministry to set-up two Sturm-Panzer-Kraftwagen-Abteilung at february, 15th, 1917: january, 23rd, 1917

      They were set-up at september, 29th, 1917 (War ministry Nr. 815.9.17)

      Mobilization for both Abteilungen january, 8th, 1918

      So it´s clear, that the unit was set-up before the tanks arrived.

      By the way. The first commanders of them were:

      1.Abtl.: Hauptmann Greiff

      2.Abtl.: Hauptmann Steinhardt

      So he left the unit, before the first A7V was built (november, 5th 1917)

      I agree with Bernhard, that he was "shuffled-around". Probably they planned a crew for the tanks through the Ersatz-Abteilung. But most of the crews were volunteers. So they took them, because they had a better moral...

    8. Here a few key features:

      Order of the war-ministry to set-up two Sturm-Panzer-Kraftwagen-Abteilung at february, 15th, 1917: january, 23rd, 1917

      They were set-up at september, 29th, 1917 (War ministry Nr. 815.9.17)

      Mobilization for both Abteilungen january, 8th, 1918

      So it´s clear, that the unit was set-up before the tanks arrived.

      By the way. The first commanders of them were:

      1.Abtl.: Hauptmann Greiff

      2.Abtl.: Hauptmann Steinhardt

      I can´t wait to see the rest of the MP!!!!!!!!!!

    9. Hello!

      The Ers.Abtl./Geb.Art.Abtl.1 was disbanned in Schmiedeberg by the Jäger-Btl.5

      He later served in the Geb.Btl.5. This one stood under command of the 11th army since 30.12.1917.

      The marked Freikorps Dohna (or "Möwe") belonged to the Brigade z.b.V.5, formed 1.march 1919 with 110 officers and 2900 men. It later formed the II./Reichswehr-Gren.Rgt.53 (27.Brigade Frankfurt/Oder).

      Since 17.2.1920 it became III.Küstrin/Reichswehr-Schützen-Rgt.105. In may 1920 the regiment 105 was disbanned and it became I./Reichswehr-Schützen-Rgt.10

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