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    Yugoslavian UN Medals

    Yup, but now one with a Yougoslavian style ribbon. As i collect UN medals by type, i'm very interested i such a reribbonned medal from the sixties. Scarse i think. Herman
  2. Van Wielik from The Hague ('s Gravenhage in Dutch) is just the firm mounting the medal in the so called Prussian style, introduced in ny country around 1913 for the military. Civilians have the normal style of hanging below the ribbon. This is the way all are awarded including to the military aswell. (I received mine in 2008 for ISAF Afghanistan the same way). SFOR vets also received the NATO medal. In 2001 this was the 'former Yougoslavia' one. Herman
  3. Hi Jason, This medal was instituted in 2001 and has been given by the tenthousands now. The firm producing this medal is Van Veluw from Zeist, the Netherlands. They produce a lot of Dutch medals, badges, pins etc. They have an own website. I know that the scarser clasps are reproduced, but the medal is unconfirmed till now. An original medal is not expensive, so there is no real need to do this. The more scarses clasps are sometimes more valuable than the medal. Van Veluw does not hallmark this medal. Hallmarking stopped around 1990 for the campaign medals. I think the difference has something to do with the finish. Some are more shiny than others. Perhaps van Veluw has an answer when you contact them. Good luck, Herman
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    Dutch TMPT cross

    Yup, you have to train the bicycling, the obstacle course, navigating, shooting, grenade throwing and so on and on. But you don't have to be of Olympic standards. Give it a try I say. regards Herman Added a picture of a Dutch ribbon bar with the last ribbon being the TMPT.
  5. Hi friends, i throw in another picture to keep this thread sort of alive.... Enjoy, Herman
  6. No reaction so far on my request. The forumite of onderscheidingenforum are all stumped. Sorry, Herman
  7. Hi gents, Is this one OK? Any comments on this one...? Thanks in advance, Herman
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    Unknown medal

    The Oranje Nassau is a Dutch state order given by Royal Decree. A civilian division (with oak leaves between the arms) for civil merit to the Kingdom and a military division for military merit. The New Guinea cross was given for military service in the area in the 1950 -1960ties period.
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    Unknown medal

    Hello gents, Has anybody an idea which medal / order this is? Herman
  10. Herman

    Unknown medal

    Paul, I checked the Indonesian Air Force trail. Bingo ! Good tip ! Thanks. So it is a medal bar to a Dutch officer with the following medals: Knight in the Order of Orange Nassau with the swords (military division), a Dutch New Guinea Cross, (instituted 1962) a Dutch UN operations medal, (instituted 1979) an Officers cross XXX (30 years), (instituted 1866) Nijmegen four days marches cross for 25 participations, (instituted 1909) UN Medal with UNTSO ribbon (10 tours), (instituted 1950ties) UN Medal with UNDOF ribbon and an Indonesian Air Force Star ... class. Cheers Herman
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    Unknown medal

    Here we go
  12. I still love this topic and the drive of Jeff. Hope the search will be rewarded.. Herman
  13. Hi Paul, it is Dutch, but not the NSF medal or its predesessor. If you're ok with it, i can ask on the Dutch website www.onderscheidingenforum.nl Some real experts there. Regards Herman
  14. Army historian, could you make a topic of the Legionnaire who served in the Dutch Princess Irene Brigade with some pictures? Sounds very interesting! regards Herman
  15. Herman

    US Purple Heart Medal

    I received the AGO card through Red Bird research today. Great job of Lori Miller. Willie Royce was in K coy, 120th Infantry, 30th Division. He fought in France and was wounded on September 29, 1918. That day they breached the German Hindenburg line near Bellicourt. He received his PH on July 6th, 1940. Mystery solved.
  16. Hello, I recently acquired a Purple Heart issued under a 1938 contract by Metal Art. It has a bent slot brooch.. It is numbered 69820 and named to Willie L Royse. He was probably wounded in WW1 and issued a PH in the late thirties. Can anybody give me more info on this soldier. I shall try to upload some pictures. Regards and thanks Herman
  17. GM1, if what you say is true, that means that a lot of them are out there. I own several Belgian VMs and after checking them all not one of them has a open line in the ball. I go with the sawed open option i''m afraid. Quite a puzzle eeh?! Regards Herman
  18. Hi Brett, It has something to do with double decorating for the same period. Direct after WW2 dutch miltary personell were not allowed to wear two or more campaign medals for the same period. The Netherlands instituted the Oorlogherinneringskruis (OHK) with in total 11 clasps and that was it. If one was entitled to a France and Germany star, one should wear the equivalent clasp to the Dutch war cross and not the star. There were rules indicating which medal entitled one to which clasp to the OHK. With hindsight a somewhat shortsighted reason. It has also something to do with the general mindset of the Dutch Forces/ MoD then. Most of them, at least the officers, were POW's in WW2. They were not fond of the 'new breed' war veterans who fought at the Allied site and had the medals to show it. Perhaps this had something to do with it aswell. Nowadays double decotaring is quite common. If a Dutch soldier goes on a mission under UN, NATO or EU flag he will receive both medals. Now, for Marks initial question. I checked my photo archive and found a few of Dutch personell at one point serving with 320 or 321 squadron. Some of them received a DFC which is proudly worn in the group. But no stars and medals in those groups. I found a few groups with the British stars and medals, but they are for Dutch who flew in other RAF squadrons. Lets see if i can upload some pics. The first pic is the medalgroup of an officer who flew with 320. He rose to Rear Admiral. His name is Hans van der Kop. The second pic is of a ribbon bar to Willem de Wolff who flew in the RAF but not with 320 and 321. The third pic is a medalgroup of a unknown Dutch Airforce officer who flew in WW2 in the east The last pic is of Heye Schaper's medalgroup, who flew with 320 sq, in WW2, and was awarded a MWO4 and a DFC for the same action. Was a POW and after WW2 he rose eventually to 4 star General. Herman
  19. Mark, your assumption of the medal entitlement is correct. The fact that the british stars and medals are absent in later medalgroups is because the Dutch MoD did not allow the wearing of them. After retirement some veterans put them in their group. Regards Herman
  20. Bogus bars for sure. Herman
  21. Correct, same article. They were awarded by the US Military Mission in Moscow during WW2.
  22. Japan X, I read it in an old OMSA article. 3 PH's were awarded 'by mistake??' to soviet army personell.
  23. Hello, great info and a great string.... I read somewhere that a few Red Army members were awarded a US Purple Heart. 3 i think. Any pictures or names to attach to those medals?