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    Canada General Service Medals
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    The Napoleonic Wars - Peninsular areas
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  1. You're a step ahead of a few collectors, having a name to go with the artifact. You could always attempt a search of Ancestry, although without a first name, you might need to start with the UK census of Surrey for the first few years until you can find someone employed as a policeman with the last name of Hunter. There are links to the Parish register at Family Search
  2. Ross: Just bought these in December. The College of Arms tells me that the top one is most likely a Green Staff Officer's baton. 1911 Investiture of the Prince of Wales (First investiture ceremony held in over 600 years). Sadly, their information on the 1911 ceremony is light at best, so they couldn't tell me who the Officers were.
  3. Ooh, thanks, Nick. Very generous of you (and them, naturally!)
  4. Amazing that your family went from Canada to Alaska. Must not have been cold enough for them when they arrived in the first place! Someone's obviously enjoyed a lifetime of collecting, though, to look at some of those lots. The dealers are probably going to pick up a great deal of them.
  5. Dave: No, I'm not acting for the auction house. And if they want to up the bid and spend their money to beat me, they can try. This is putting out that a large collection is available for my fellow collectors, if any of them are interested. The more we know about each other's themes, the more we help each other.
  6. Looks like someone's collection is going under the hammer at Canterbury Auction Galleries next week. There looks to be about 50 or so lots of truncheons and tipstaves, sold in lots of singles, 2, 3, and 4. Be warned, as usual, if bidding, that the buyers' commission here is 24%, plus 3% for internet bidding. Payments that involve credit cards are another 2% with VAT, and if you win high, you may be expected to pay by bank transfer, which opens you up to a lot more fees, from both receiving and sending banks. (I've run the ropes a few times with different houses and banks.) I've got one lot in mind, with that Scottish William IV Aberdeen staff. Perfect for the theme! I'm trusting you all not to run my bid up!
  7. Thanks, Dave. That's a couple of lovely leads. Of course, it also always helps to have a copy of Mervyn's book at hand!
  8. I've been wondering recently what sorts of resources are out there to help us identify some of the markings on our truncheons and other staves. Often the auction houses or sellers do the adequate research or the town names are painted on the wood, but in many cases, it's unidentified and we have to rely on some expert work or another. http://www.ima-usa.com/original-british-victorian-painted-police-truncheon.html Here's an example of the dealer not mentioning that the truncheon is a Cambridge University piece. I had to flip through a heraldry book online to pick out the proper nomenclature to even begin looking up what it meant. http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/23186?msg=welcome_stranger This doesn't apply to town crests, either, many of which are sometimes hard to describe properly to bring up a good result. Edingburgh, Manchester? Fairly easy. Coats of arms of smaller counties? Not always simple. So, what other resources are out there? What do you use?
  9. Mervyn was the first authoritative source I came across, after Christopher McCreery mentioned tipstaves in his Canadian Symbols of Authority. I picked up pieces here and there, always posting them here and asking him questions, which led to Mervyn finally saying (more than once) "You should pick up a copy of my book." I did, finding an autographed copy for sale, and it's a joy to flip through. Also, I was fortunate enough to pick up a picture of the lone Canadian truncheon in existence for him late last year. He'd spoken about it in his book, but never got to see it until now. I took Policeman's Lot to my OMRS meeting this week and it was only then that someone informed me that Mervyn had passed away.
  10. I must be looking at the wrong auctions. This particular style has only shown up a few times and they've often been withdrawn before the auction proper. There can't be much profiteering if they've been asking 1000 pounds or some and I got mine for 360 pounds. And that wasn't even my highest bid.
  11. I did some more digging, too. There's one in the Society of Antiquaries of Scotland, added to their collection in the 1930's. And the Woolley's auction in 2011 also had its one withdrawn.
  12. Well, that was a lot of money and packaging for a tiny item. 5 1/2 inches long, 3/4 inch in diameter, with the Edinburgh crest on one end (with Instituted 1698 around the rim), the Royal Crest on the other (with E.H.C. No. 114 around the rim) Apparently No. 29 was sold by Spink in December 1997 and No. 103 sold by Wooley and Wallis in 2011. No. 124 was withdrawn by Bonham's in 2010. Mervyn, Spink references your book, page 87, figure 3, the third ebony & silver tipstaff.
  13. Mine is a little different. See the attached file. It's apparently got "E.H.C. 114" on it.
  14. The Saleroom currently has an ebony and silver Glasgow tipstaff, named, estimated between 800 & 1200 pounds http://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/auction-catalogues/woolley-and-wallis/catalogue-id-2916912/lot-25122296?searchitem=true I'm about to receive an Edinburgh ebony and Silver-capped High Constable's staff, which looks to be either George IV or William IV.
  15. Quite true. The holes, frankly, are at the opposite ends of where you'd have them usually drilled, I think.