Christophe Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 Here is a wound badge "20 July 1944", as displayed in the Imperial War Museum in London.There is no detail about its attribution.I've read (or been told) that it could be a copy. What do you think ? Any additional info about this theory ?Ch.Pic : ? Christophe ? ChR Collection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Posted November 3, 2006 Author Share Posted November 3, 2006 More detailed pic.Ch.Pic : ? Christophe ? ChR Collection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Posted November 3, 2006 Author Share Posted November 3, 2006 Another one.Ch.Pic : ? Christophe ? ChR Collection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Posted November 3, 2006 Author Share Posted November 3, 2006 It is clear and obvious it did not look exactly like the one displayed in Detlev Niemann's Price Guide - edition 2 (page 555)... Ch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Posted November 5, 2006 Author Share Posted November 5, 2006 No comment from the experts on this one ? Ch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Posted December 23, 2006 Author Share Posted December 23, 2006 I'm surprised... No comment about this badge ? Ch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Darrell Posted December 23, 2006 Share Posted December 23, 2006 (edited) The case looks a little too large if anything. In Angolia's "For Fuhrer and Fatherland" there is a good picture of Hitler awarding the badges to some of the recipients on Aug 20th. The case Keitel is holding appears to be nio larger than that for a regular wound badge. Edited December 23, 2006 by Darrell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Posted December 23, 2006 Author Share Posted December 23, 2006 Hi Darrell,Thanks for the comment. I thought this thread was lost somewhere in space ...I don't know what to think about the box. I unfortunately don't know the picture you are referring to. Maybe you could post it here ? The one shown in the IWM is similar to another one I have seen in a russian book. Exactly the same. But these two boxes are in many points different from the one Detlev Niemann shows in his Price catalog (pages 555 - 556). Don't know what to think ? Ch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WAR LORD Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 I think this is a copy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Posted December 24, 2006 Author Share Posted December 24, 2006 Thanks Chris. And about the box ?Ch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Darrell Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 Picture: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Posted December 24, 2006 Author Share Posted December 24, 2006 Thanks Darrell, In fact I knew and had this picture, but in a very small size. Now, just have to try to check the size of the bow, compared to the doc.Ch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jef Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 I'm surprised... No comment about this badge ? Ch.Hello, Maybe this copy doc suits the badge?Jef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Posted January 2, 2007 Author Share Posted January 2, 2007 Hi Jef,For my information, where did you get this color copy? I have already seen it in B&W (in Detlev Niemann's book) but not in color...Cheers.Ch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jef Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 Hi Jef,For my information, where did you get this color copy? I have already seen it in B&W (in Detlev Niemann's book) but not in color...Cheers.Ch.Hello Christophe,I got it from a friend, who has several items. In this way, I know it's a fake. But what a fake!!! A golden bird... and a 3D stamp in the left undercorner.kind regards,Jef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Posted January 2, 2007 Author Share Posted January 2, 2007 Yes, a good reproduction, for sure. Thanks Jef.Cheers.Ch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WW2PO Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Christophe,The following seems that it may be one in the same? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Posted January 4, 2007 Author Share Posted January 4, 2007 Hey, I don't know... Each time I see a pic of this badge, it looks like a different type... Ch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedytop Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 This is a badge shown here first out of the Imperial War Museum, differently coloured.It is a copy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedytop Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 (edited) That is the case, you can see the same in the Museum. Edited January 15, 2007 by speedytop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedytop Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 And this is the reverse, marked L 12 und 800.The needle is marked with 4.RegardsUweI beg your pardon for my bad English Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justinkase Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 Here is a wound badge "20 July 1944", as displayed in the Imperial War Museum in London.There is no detail about its attribution.I've read (or been told) that it could be a copy. What do you think ? Any additional info about this theory ?Ch.Pic : ? Christophe ? ChR CollectionHello Christophe,After looking at the pictures that you have posted and checking out William E. Hamelmans` book "German Wound Badges" pages 59-61, in my opinion, and what is pictured and written in Williams` book, this badge is a cast copy. Also in my opinion the case is also to big for the badge.Best Wishes,Justinkase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Posted January 23, 2007 Author Share Posted January 23, 2007 Hello Christophe,After looking at the pictures that you have posted and checking out William E. Hamelmans` book "German Wound Badges" pages 59-61, in my opinion, and what is pictured and written in Williams` book, this badge is a cast copy. Also in my opinion the case is also to big for the badge.Best Wishes,JustinkaseThanks Justin for the comment. I was quite sure now it is not a real one; your precision goes in the same direction.I will ask the IWM about it.Thanks again.Cheers.Ch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Williamson Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 This fake comes in two versions. One is die struck in real silver, measuring 45mm x 37mm and weighing 37gr. The other is cast, probably using the same die struck version as a "master" and isn't realsilver. It weighs30gr and measures just 43mm x 36mm. Even though the difference in size between the cast and die struck fakes is slight, it is enough to be visible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Williamson Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Reverse.The smaller fake has the L/12 mark in the centre, the larger die struck one has L12 800, and also has the pin with the Steinhauer "4" mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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