Stijn David Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Hello, Is there anyone who can help me with finding out information on the following Officer:Leutnant der Reserve Oskar Morath (Baden).Cordial greetings, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Gregory Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Stijn,Without any context, the chances of finding out anything about a Leutnant der Reserve are very small.Do you have any known unit, location or award information?David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stijn David Posted November 6, 2006 Author Share Posted November 6, 2006 Hi David, Thank you, yes sure i have some info on this person: Known awards:* EK 2 (awarded 1915)* OZL - Knight (awarded early 1916)Known units:* F.A.R. 14* F.A.R. 16 Hopefully this will help a bit? Are these guys (der Reserve) also listed in Ranklists of some kind? Cordial greetings, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Gregory Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Stijn,As far as I know, reserve officers are not included in the the rank list volumes.It might take some time to find them, but the regimental histories of FAR 14 and FAR 16 may mention him.David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulsterman Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Alas, I find nothing on him in the FAR 14 book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stijn David Posted November 6, 2006 Author Share Posted November 6, 2006 Hello, Thank you for the search in teh FAR 14 book. He was part of that unit for the periods: 1908 - 1909and05.08.1914 towards 01.02.1915 Any idea on what battles this regt. was involved during the mentionde period? He was then part of the FAR 16 from:01.02.1915 towards 28.08.1916 Cordial greetings, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Gregory Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 (edited) Hello, Thank you for the search in teh FAR 14 book. He was part of that unit for the periods: 1908 - 1909and05.08.1914 towards 01.02.1915 Any idea on what battles this regt. was involved during the mentionde period? He was then part of the FAR 16 from:01.02.1915 towards 28.08.1916 Cordial greetings,Stijn,FAR 14 was part of 28. Infanterie-Division for the duration of the war. The link shows the battle entries in detail.FAR 16 was part of 1. Infanterie-Division on the Eastern Front from the beginning of the war until the beginning of March 1916, and then at Verdun until the beginning of June 1916. By mid August it was back on the Eastern Front, where it remained until the end of 1917.It would seem that Leutnant der Reserve Morath received his awards for actions with 28. Infanterie-Division shown in the link above and with 1. Infanterie-Division on the Eastern Front.Do you know which batteries or other parts of the regiments he served with? I'll see if I can dig out any more information when I can get to my books.David Edited November 6, 2006 by David Gregory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stijn David Posted November 6, 2006 Author Share Posted November 6, 2006 Hello David, Thank you for that info, i do not know much more at this point but this mans Wehrpass (WP) is on its it way towards me (should receive it during the next 2 weeks). I hope that more info is written down altough i doubt that to much detail will be given as the WP is a WWII issue. Anyway i will write down all i have as it is written down.Cordial greetings, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn J Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Stijn and David,reserve officers are not included in the the rank list volumesIf he was commissioned before May 1914 he will be listed in the Prussian Rangliste. If commissioned after that date I should be able to find his commissioning date in the Milit?r-Wochenblatt. Morath is not too common a name and I have indexed all of the remainder of 1914 and the best part of 1915. I'll check when I get home this evening.RegardsGlenn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stijn David Posted November 6, 2006 Author Share Posted November 6, 2006 Hello Glenn, Thank you in advance for the search => looking forward towards what you might find Anyway i have received the following info already on our Leutnant der R. He apparently received the OZL on : 14.01.1916 - unit listed: fu?artillerie-batterei nr. 361 Does that info fit in the above given ? Cordial greetings, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Gregory Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Stijn,I assumed from the abbreviations above that you referred to Feldartillerie-Regimenter 14 and 16.Morath may have served with the field artillery and then transferred to a foot artillery unit, hence the Fu?artillerie-Batterie Nr. 361 unit designation.During some periods of the war, foot artillery units were attached to division-level formations, but it is more likely that his unit was attached to a corps or army and did not rotate in and out of sectors of the front as much as divisional units.It might be possible to pinpoint the activities of Fu?artillerie-Batterie Nr. 361, but finding that information will not be easy as most reference works of that period are not indexed.Any context information that you have will help to narrow the search down.David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn J Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 (edited) Stijn,that was easy Vizefeldwebel der Reserve Oskar Morath was serving with the Ersatz-Bataillon of Fu?artillerie-Regiment Nr. 14 when he was commissioned as a Leutnant der Reserve on the 21st of February 1915 with a patent of seniority of the same date.RegardsGlenn Edited November 6, 2006 by Glenn J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stijn David Posted November 6, 2006 Author Share Posted November 6, 2006 (edited) Hello, Thank you for both answers => very interesting (im a bit a WWI dummy, as WWII is my main collecting interest but once so often im blinded by imperial beauty )Very nice info to see when our object of research was promoted from Vizefeldwebel towards Leutnant der Reserve. I also did receive the following info in the meanwhile: This person should be mentioned (his award of the OZL) in the "Staatsanzeiger f?r das Grossherzogtum Baden, Sonderdruck I/1916", page 20 !!! He was awarded his EK 2 on 25.07.1915 So the ploth thickens => hopefully more will be found in a while Cordial greetings, Edited November 6, 2006 by Stijn David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stijn David Posted November 15, 2006 Author Share Posted November 15, 2006 Hello, Well i can add finally a bit more info on dr. Oskar Morath. He was born : 22.04.1885He was drafted into the army at 01.10.1908 - Fussart. Regt. 14Units as known:- 1914 & 1915 / F.A.R. 14- 1916 / F.A.R. 16- 1917 / Inf. Brigade d. 34 Inf. Div. ( ????) - 1917 / Fussart. BAttr. 361- 1917 & 1918 / Landw. Fussart. Batl. 29I do not know how the entry : Inf. brigade d. 34 Inf. Div does fit in? - hopefully you guys can teach me? As for know promotions at this time:30.09.1909 : Unteroffizier05.08.1914 : Vizefeldwebel21.02.1915 : Leutnant He was demobilized at 16.12.1918 + seemed to have survived the madness of WWI without a scratch (at least no entry about wounds etc ... are to be foundBattle-entry's:1915 : Gefecht am Hartmannswillerkopf1916 : Schlacht bei Verdun1917 : Fr?hjahrsschlacht bei ArrasHe also must have been entitled to receive the Hindenburg, but no entry + no medal present in his legacy.Im looking forward towards all new info that can be added.Cordial greetings, He held the title of Professor at 1940 (and also dr.) - altough i do not know in what ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stijn David Posted November 17, 2006 Author Share Posted November 17, 2006 Hello, Please meet herr Professor Oskar Morath Anyone a idea how it would be able to find out in what he was a Professor? (most probably impossible but you never know?)Cordial greetings, ps: i was lazy and have taken the picture from the former owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stijn David Posted November 17, 2006 Author Share Posted November 17, 2006 Hello, And here we have his "Z?hringer L?we", it is my first and i must say that i am stumped by the quality of these pieces. They (=OZL) are so delicate and beautifull (at least towards me). The pictures (scans) do not do justice to the beauty of the award.Cordial greetings, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stijn David Posted January 25, 2007 Author Share Posted January 25, 2007 Hello, I have received more info on Morath and his OZL, the initiative to award him something (in this the OZL) was given from the Bayerische 8 th. Infantery Division.How does the Fu?artillerie-Batterie Nr. 361 fit into this Division? Anyone a idea?Cordial greetings + thanks for looking, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webr55 Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 (edited) I must have overlooked this. Oskar Morath got a Dr. in geology from the University of Freiburg in 1913 (there is a small chance that it might have been in 1914, but I could not determine this 100%). The title of his dissertation was "Theoretische Grundlagen für die Konstruktion geologischer Modelle". Chris Edited November 13, 2017 by webr55 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stijn David Posted January 25, 2007 Author Share Posted January 25, 2007 I must have overlooked this. Oskar Morath got a Dr. in geology from the University of Freiburg in 1913 (there is a small chance that it might have been in 1914, but I could not determine this 100%). The title of his dissertation was "Theoretische Grundlagen f?r die Konstruktion geologischer Modelle".ChrisHello Chris, Thank you very much, could you referr me the source where you have found this information? Do you have a clue at wich university he was to find during the interbellum as well as during WWII? Cordial greetings + thank you, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webr55 Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 Hello Chris, Thank you very much, could you referr me the source where you have found this information? Do you have a clue at wich university he was to find during the interbellum as well as during WWII? Cordial greetings + thank you,You find this information in several German university library catalogs, for example the Staatsbibliothek Berlin. About his "Professor" title: As I find no further publications of his, I would most definitely think that he was not a university professor, but a senior teacher at some Gymnasium ("Gymnasialprofessor").RegardsChris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stijn David Posted January 25, 2007 Author Share Posted January 25, 2007 Hello Chris, Thank you for this further information, much appreciated. Anyone any idea's how the Bayerische 8 (reserve) Infantery division does relate towards the Fu?artillerie-Batterie Nr. 361 ? Was this ID a active front unit?, iff so any clues on links wher eto find info on that division?Thanks in advance, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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