Mike Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 I've think I've seen this pattern/style before and (for some reason ) remember it as being a WW1 British made propaganda item. But I can't find this style in any of my Books ...could this pattern be a Fantasy item ...have any of you run into these before ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Murphy Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 Mike, Yes it is indeed a British propaganda piece. The message on it is not "To der Kaiser", it is "To hell mit (helmet) der Kaiser". I have one just like it and it is but one of many types of these. There are others that had the names of pillaged cities in France and Belgium on them. I would love to find the Louvain etc. one, I don't have it yet. They are of the period and quite collectible.Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leigh kitchen Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 Mike, Yes it is indeed a British propaganda piece. The message on it is not "To der Kaiser", it is "To hell mit (helmet) der Kaiser". I have one just like it and it is but one of many types of these. There are others that had the names of pillaged cities in France and Belgium on them. I would love to find the Louvain etc. one, I don't have it yet. They are of the period and quite collectible.DanI have about 3 versions of these, none with the helmet but mentioning such places as Louvain, Hartlepool etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 HelloVery nice and unusual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 (edited) There was a thread on these but I can't find it.Here's a pic of a packet, the cross only has'For Kultur' on it.Tony Edited December 21, 2006 by Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 And the other side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sftrooper86 Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 Hi Mike,For a couple more variations for this oddity you can see page 222 of "The Iron Time" by Previtera.Happy Hunting,Vince Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunyadi Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 This one I got on Ebay a while ago - its the same type as found in Preveria's book - a propoganda EK2 with the Napoleonic crown on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunyadi Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 and the reverse - its quite well made. One piece and brass - too bad the paint is flaking off of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted December 22, 2006 Author Share Posted December 22, 2006 Thanks for confirming this pattern. And Tony , that packet is fantastic ...I'd love to find a complete set like that someday, thanks for that ...I had seen the ones in Previtera's book but this style was not in there. Also ...I found another for sale that ...I think could be a repro. The detail is not as sharp as mine...I know that could be written off because of the rust BUT ..look at the 3 o'clock arm of the Cross and how there's a "Ramp" extending onto the arm itself ...mine does not have that. Could my pattern have been used to make a mold and produce some fakes ? I was hoping that some Imperial Collectors would weigh in on this since it's not really my field.Here's the other one that I'm "questioning" ...mine's rough but , better than this one. Could they both be real ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted December 22, 2006 Author Share Posted December 22, 2006 Here's the back -- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted December 22, 2006 Author Share Posted December 22, 2006 Here's the one I own again for comparison --- It could be an Illusion but , Look at how the word "Kaiser" ramps down ..the "K" is the highest then each letter seems to get smaller ..and both examples have this trait. That's why I think it could be a clone .Here's mine again -- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksg Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 And the other sideInteresting, have never seen packets before, didn't know they existed. Thanks for posting!Kjell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksg Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 (edited) "Der Kaiser" again and a few others.Kjell Edited December 22, 2006 by ksg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksg Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 Some nice variations indeed!!!!I just wish the theory would die that these were dropped over german lines .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadolch Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 (edited) GREAT COLLECTION OF PROPAGANDA CROSSES,....HERE ARE (3) OF MINE...NOTE TOP IS CAST IRON (MAGNETIC) THE OTHERS ARE BRASS (DER KISER) AND THE OTHER BRONZE??????? Edited July 11, 2017 by sadolch FORGOT TO NOTIFY ME OF REPLIES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now