Jump to content
Gentleman's Military Interest Club
Mike

Cast Iron Iron Cross ?

Recommended Posts

I've think I've seen this pattern/style before and (for some reason ) remember it as being a WW1 British made propaganda item. But I can't find this style in any of my Books ...could this pattern be a Fantasy item ...have any of you run into these before ?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Mike,

Yes it is indeed a British propaganda piece. The message on it is not "To der Kaiser", it is "To hell mit (helmet) der Kaiser". I have one just like it and it is but one of many types of these. There are others that had the names of pillaged cities in France and Belgium on them. I would love to find the Louvain etc. one, I don't have it yet. They are of the period and quite collectible.

Dan

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Mike,

Yes it is indeed a British propaganda piece. The message on it is not "To der Kaiser", it is "To hell mit (helmet) der Kaiser". I have one just like it and it is but one of many types of these. There are others that had the names of pillaged cities in France and Belgium on them. I would love to find the Louvain etc. one, I don't have it yet. They are of the period and quite collectible.

Dan

I have about 3 versions of these, none with the helmet but mentioning such places as Louvain, Hartlepool etc

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

There was a thread on these but I can't find it.

Here's a pic of a packet, the cross only has'For Kultur' on it.

Tony

Edited by Tony

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Thanks for confirming this pattern. And Tony , that packet is fantastic ...I'd love to find a complete set like that someday, thanks for that ...I had seen the ones in Previtera's book but this style was not in there.

Also ...I found another for sale that ...I think could be a repro. The detail is not as sharp as mine...I know that could be written off because of the rust BUT ..look at the 3 o'clock arm of the Cross and how there's a "Ramp" extending onto the arm itself ...mine does not have that. Could my pattern have been used to make a mold and produce some fakes ? I was hoping that some Imperial Collectors would weigh in on this since it's not really my field.

Here's the other one that I'm "questioning" ...mine's rough but , better than this one. Could they both be real ?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Here's the one I own again for comparison --- It could be an Illusion but , Look at how the word "Kaiser" ramps down ..the "K" is the highest then each letter seems to get smaller ..and both examples have this trait. That's why I think it could be a clone .

Here's mine again --

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

GREAT COLLECTION OF PROPAGANDA CROSSES,....HERE ARE (3) OF MINE...NOTE TOP IS CAST IRON  (MAGNETIC) THE OTHERS ARE BRASS (DER KISER) AND THE OTHER BRONZE???????

HELMET KAISER.JPG

HELMET KAISER (2).JPG

HELMET KAISER (3).JPG

Edited by sadolch
FORGOT TO NOTIFY ME OF REPLIES

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


×