Why so few EK doc collectors?

[Chris Boonzaier]

Exactly !!! Chris there are probably several of us would very much like to buy some some but there is some bas***d over in Germany who seems to snaffle ever nice one that turns up.

Want me to give him a kicking???????

[Chris Boonzaier]

Ssssshhhhhh!

P

Dont worry, I think it will take a few books on the subject to awaken any real interest...

[PKeating]

The 'problem' with documents and document groups is that they require at least a basic knowledge of history. In fact, they require rather more than a basic knowledge if one is to avoid being clipped by fakers and forgers who are getting smarter. One needs to study units and sub-units in order to know if a document with such-and-such a date could have been signed by so-and-so etcetera. Many collectors are far from intellectual.

PK

[Gerd Becker]

The 'problem' with documents and document groups is that they require at least a basic knowledge of history. In fact, they require rather more than a basic knowledge if one is to avoid being clipped by fakers and forgers who are getting smarter. One needs to study units and sub-units in order to know if a document with such-and-such a date could have been signed by so-and-so etcetera. Many collectors are far from intellectual.

PK

I think, Prosper has a good point here. Being a dumba$$ myself, when it comes to WW1, i often can?t relate to the action behind the Document. But due to this forum, i now know at least, that a "First Day on the Somme" Document is something special and very collectable.

The more i get into it(with the help of Chris?and others contributions on this forum), the more i can understand the fascination with these documents. And of course the design of some of these is breathtaking If i had unlimited funds, i would collect these too.

Gerd

[gregM]

For me, the biggest draw back is the language barrier. It is hard for me to study a unit

history or try to research an individual when I only recognise maybe a half dozen words.

Another thing is that I just do not come across them. I have never seen one at the

shows or antique stores that I go to. I do not know enough about how to tell a good one

from a bad one to trust buying them off ebay.

[Rick Research]

I wouldn't worry too much about over-researching beforehand. Sometimes it's the researching long afterwards that keeps on adding information.

This ugly little post-war dog license type for a Bavarian J?ger NCO returning from the Caucasus was mentioned in the unit history as a group presentation which was made as the transport ship was steaming home through the English Channel with the White Cliffs of Dover off their port side. Imagine 1919 English people's amazement at the sights and sounds of a ship full of steel helmeted German soldiers sailing past playing "Deutschland ?ber Alles" and handing out Iron Crosses! This has got to be the oddest PLACE for a German ARMY presentation I've ever encountered.

Not that that appears anywhere on the document-- and certainly not in the 1977 dealer's one line catalog dismissal which didn't even give ANY data but "EK2 1919."

Thirty years later and I'm still immersed in the Georgian campaign....

[Chris Boonzaier]

Not that that appears anywhere on the document-- and certainly not in the 1977 dealer's one line catalog dismissal which didn't even give ANY data but "EK2 1919."

Thirty years later and I'm still immersed in the Georgian campaign....

Indeed !!!!

Its the history that makes this all sooooooo much fun !!!

[Chris Boonzaier]

We picked up any doc guys since March ?? :-)

[Chris Boonzaier]

I guess not :-(

[nesredep]

Oh, that's a BEAUTY Steve! I am glad to see that ONE has escaped the claws of the Evil Graphics Hog Boonzaier Person!

My nicest one is huge and so much folded, but of a much more muted "Art Deco" style:

And thinking of GRAPHIC--

did you ever get that Saint Barbana artillery one scanned, Chris? Years later and I still sigh over THAT one.

Hello!

Stunning, never see this before.

All the best

Nesredep

[joelhall]

at the moment its because i dont have the knowledge to tell between good and bad ones. im working on it though

[Rick Research]

Issued at Division:

[Rick Research]

Issued at Regiment:

[Rick Research]

Issued at home

[Rick Research]

Issued far away

[Rick Research]

At sea

and ashore

Look, Mama! I finally got mine!!!

[Rick Research]

For the near sighted

[Rick Research]

For surviving the extermination of his regiment

For long and wearisome paper shuffling

[Rick Research]

Every one with his own story...

What did you do in the war, grandpa?

Which one? Been in FOUR....

[Rick Research]

With bicycles to the front

(and how many Blue Maxs were earned in the "pneumatic cavalry?" )

[Rick Research]

High above it all (when is a "flyer" not a flyer? )

When he was an Angel Without Wings from the field artillery.

[speedytop]

Hi,

this is my favourite, K?niglich-preu?isches Garde-F?silier-Regiment (Maik?fer), 3. Bataillon, 12. Kompanie:

Regards

Uwe

[Paul R]

Is how very few people actually collect iron cross documents from WW1.

It is because we know you need to them all. We respect your space!

[Rick Research]

That is very neat with the beetle on it, Uwe!

[Alfred]

As soviet stuff gets priceless, I just started to collect EK II?s and documents First World War.

The first EK II document group with a Frontk?mpfer Ehrenkreuz.

regards

Andreas

P.S. What is a Arendt Abteilung? of the 9th Army.