Chris Boonzaier #26 Posted January 5, 2007 Exactly !!! Chris there are probably several of us would very much like to buy some some but there is some bas***d over in Germany who seems to snaffle ever nice one that turns up.Want me to give him a kicking??????? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris Boonzaier #27 Posted January 5, 2007 Ssssshhhhhh!PDont worry, I think it will take a few books on the subject to awaken any real interest... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PKeating #28 Posted January 5, 2007 The 'problem' with documents and document groups is that they require at least a basic knowledge of history. In fact, they require rather more than a basic knowledge if one is to avoid being clipped by fakers and forgers who are getting smarter. One needs to study units and sub-units in order to know if a document with such-and-such a date could have been signed by so-and-so etcetera. Many collectors are far from intellectual. PK Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gerd Becker #29 Posted January 5, 2007 The 'problem' with documents and document groups is that they require at least a basic knowledge of history. In fact, they require rather more than a basic knowledge if one is to avoid being clipped by fakers and forgers who are getting smarter. One needs to study units and sub-units in order to know if a document with such-and-such a date could have been signed by so-and-so etcetera. Many collectors are far from intellectual. PKI think, Prosper has a good point here. Being a dumba$$ myself, when it comes to WW1, i often can?t relate to the action behind the Document. But due to this forum, i now know at least, that a "First Day on the Somme" Document is something special and very collectable.The more i get into it(with the help of Chris?and others contributions on this forum), the more i can understand the fascination with these documents. And of course the design of some of these is breathtaking If i had unlimited funds, i would collect these too.Gerd Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gregM #30 Posted January 6, 2007 For me, the biggest draw back is the language barrier. It is hard for me to study a unithistory or try to research an individual when I only recognise maybe a half dozen words. Another thing is that I just do not come across them. I have never seen one at the shows or antique stores that I go to. I do not know enough about how to tell a good onefrom a bad one to trust buying them off ebay. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rick Research #31 Posted January 6, 2007 I wouldn't worry too much about over-researching beforehand. Sometimes it's the researching long afterwards that keeps on adding information.This ugly little post-war dog license type for a Bavarian J?ger NCO returning from the Caucasus was mentioned in the unit history as a group presentation which was made as the transport ship was steaming home through the English Channel with the White Cliffs of Dover off their port side. Imagine 1919 English people's amazement at the sights and sounds of a ship full of steel helmeted German soldiers sailing past playing "Deutschland ?ber Alles" and handing out Iron Crosses! This has got to be the oddest PLACE for a German ARMY presentation I've ever encountered.Not that that appears anywhere on the document-- and certainly not in the 1977 dealer's one line catalog dismissal which didn't even give ANY data but "EK2 1919." Thirty years later and I'm still immersed in the Georgian campaign.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris Boonzaier #32 Posted March 21, 2007 Not that that appears anywhere on the document-- and certainly not in the 1977 dealer's one line catalog dismissal which didn't even give ANY data but "EK2 1919." Thirty years later and I'm still immersed in the Georgian campaign....Indeed !!!!Its the history that makes this all sooooooo much fun !!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris Boonzaier #33 Posted November 8, 2007 We picked up any doc guys since March ?? :-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris Boonzaier #34 Posted March 18, 2008 I guess not :-( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nesredep #35 Posted March 18, 2008 Oh, that's a BEAUTY Steve! I am glad to see that ONE has escaped the claws of the Evil Graphics Hog Boonzaier Person!My nicest one is huge and so much folded, but of a much more muted "Art Deco" style:And thinking of GRAPHIC--did you ever get that Saint Barbana artillery one scanned, Chris? Years later and I still sigh over THAT one.Hello!Stunning, never see this before. All the bestNesredep Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joelhall #36 Posted March 18, 2008 at the moment its because i dont have the knowledge to tell between good and bad ones. im working on it though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rick Research #37 Posted March 19, 2008 Issued at Division: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rick Research #38 Posted March 19, 2008 Issued at Regiment: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rick Research #39 Posted March 19, 2008 Issued at home Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rick Research #40 Posted March 19, 2008 Issued far away Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rick Research #41 Posted March 19, 2008 At seaand ashoreLook, Mama! I finally got mine!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rick Research #42 Posted March 19, 2008 For the near sighted Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rick Research #43 Posted March 19, 2008 For surviving the extermination of his regiment For long and wearisome paper shuffling Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rick Research #44 Posted March 19, 2008 Every one with his own story...What did you do in the war, grandpa?Which one? Been in FOUR.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rick Research #45 Posted March 19, 2008 With bicycles to the front(and how many Blue Maxs were earned in the "pneumatic cavalry?" ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rick Research #46 Posted March 19, 2008 High above it all (when is a "flyer" not a flyer? )When he was an Angel Without Wings from the field artillery. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
speedytop #47 Posted March 22, 2008 Hi,this is my favourite, K?niglich-preu?isches Garde-F?silier-Regiment (Maik?fer), 3. Bataillon, 12. Kompanie:RegardsUwe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paul R #48 Posted March 22, 2008 Is how very few people actually collect iron cross documents from WW1.It is because we know you need to them all. We respect your space! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rick Research #49 Posted March 22, 2008 That is very neat with the beetle on it, Uwe! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alfred #50 Posted March 26, 2008 As soviet stuff gets priceless, I just started to collect EK II?s and documents First World War.The first EK II document group with a Frontk?mpfer Ehrenkreuz.regardsAndreasP.S. What is a Arendt Abteilung? of the 9th Army. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites