Chris Boonzaier Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 ... Masonic I am told. It is big, of an exceptional quality, blew me away but knowing nothing of the values I did not buy it. I guess a one off piece, specially fitted case... must have cost a bomb back then. The seller said it came from russia, so I guess pre WW1 Russian? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest WAR LORD Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 I do not think this is Masonic. It possibly could be a Russian court offical insignia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted July 13, 2005 Author Share Posted July 13, 2005 At the time I did some internet research and found this exact badge, I dont know much about masons (nothing actually) but I found this exact symbol as the badge of the highest level (level one or two I think?)The eagle, crown, sword etc were all there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted July 13, 2005 Author Share Posted July 13, 2005 Here you go.... very, very similarhttp://www.kena.org/Hirams/Pictures/Masoni...sh%20Rite/33rd/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Y Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 My guess would be Masonic, even without the triangle above the crown.. After all, triangular cut diamonds are few and far between. Whatever, it's a pretty amazing piece of bling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 Definitely Masonic. Ask Jeff McCulloh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WAR LORD Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 Having seen the sit and the regalia, I would be very suprised if this is under the constition of the Grand Lodge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted July 13, 2005 Author Share Posted July 13, 2005 Hi,try here....http://www.kena.org/Hirams/Pictures/Masonic/then click on Scottish Rite, then try the "33" and "Consitory"I think it will go some way to explaining where it fits in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WAR LORD Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 tHIS IS NOT UNDER THE gRAND lODGE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted July 13, 2005 Author Share Posted July 13, 2005 What does that mean? I am not sure what a rand lodge is, and what it means not to be under it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted July 13, 2005 Author Share Posted July 13, 2005 http://www.scottishritemasons-can.org/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted July 13, 2005 Author Share Posted July 13, 2005 http://www.scottishritemasons-can.org/eagle.htmand at the bottom right of this page....http://altreligion.about.com/library/gloss...ldefslagash.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted July 13, 2005 Author Share Posted July 13, 2005 The Ancient Accepted Scottish Rite (AASR) "is an appendant body of Masonry, meaning that it is not part of the Blue Lodge per se, but closely associated with Masonry. It requires that a man be a Master Mason before joining the Scottish Rite. The Scottish Rite confers the 4th through 32nd degrees. The degree work may be, but is not necessarily, completed at one time. Any Master Mason is eligible to join the Scottish Rite. The degrees of the Scottish Rite continue the symbolism of the first three Masonic degrees.""The Scottish Rite awards a special honorary degree, the 33rd, to those it feels has made an outstanding contribution to Masonry, the community as a whole, and to mankind. There is no way to 'achieve' this degree or 'take' it, in the sense that one takes the 4th through 32nd degrees in the Scottish Rite. It is a singular honor, rarely bestowed, and greatly admired." - Andrew Fabbro, "Freemasonry FAQ" Version 1.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WAR LORD Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 The Grand Lodge is the Govening body of English Freemasonry. Back to the jewel, I contacted a member and he thinks this could be for a Foriegn Lodge. In Britain the Organisation is known as Rose Quior. The emblem is an Eagle and a pelican. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted July 14, 2005 Author Share Posted July 14, 2005 As I said, it was in Istanbul, according to the seller it came from Russia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted July 16, 2005 Share Posted July 16, 2005 SCOTTISH Rite! That's it. I knew this design crown/eagle/sword had come up before (though not be-diamonded, and in a mid 19th century case). I can never remember which is whose (Scottish... York... ) with these "secret" dinguses, but see similar bits and pieces from time to time in Junque Shoppes among costume jewelry and such. The sellers have no more clue than we Non Aproned do what realistic "value" there is to old (or not old) fraternal insignia cast offs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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