Sal Williams Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 Hi Folks,I got this cased BB set (with mini) recently and I am extremely sceptical of the mini and the case. The badge itself seems good to me but I would be grateful to see what you guys think.Thanks, Sal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal Williams Posted July 21, 2005 Author Share Posted July 21, 2005 The reverse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal Williams Posted July 21, 2005 Author Share Posted July 21, 2005 The mini front Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal Williams Posted July 21, 2005 Author Share Posted July 21, 2005 Mini reverse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal Williams Posted July 21, 2005 Author Share Posted July 21, 2005 the case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal Williams Posted July 21, 2005 Author Share Posted July 21, 2005 the outer of the case. Very scratched and aged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Williamson Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 Sal,I agree with your own diagnosis. Badge itself is OK. The mini is unlike any real one I've ever seen. Wierdest looking head to the eagle. The case could be a real one which has had the base insert replaced. Overall its not a good set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 Hi Sal, I'm not specialist but the badge looks good. meanwhile, the mini looks odd and the eagle seems to have been mixed with a Pelican . Wait for more opinions . jacques Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter J Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 Hi Sal That's a strange looking mini. Apart from the "pelican's" head, the rest is almost identical to the regular size. I don't have this mini (swapped it ) but it's interesting to see the images in Messing's book. On the regular size there are three rows of windows with borders. The 25mm has the two top rows without borders, whereas the 16mm has three rows, also without borders.KRPeter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal Williams Posted July 22, 2005 Author Share Posted July 22, 2005 Peter, what about the crazy duck foot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal Williams Posted July 22, 2005 Author Share Posted July 22, 2005 Sal,I agree with your own diagnosis. Badge itself is OK. The mini is unlike any real one I've ever seen. Wierdest looking head to the eagle. The case could be a real one which has had the base insert replaced. Overall its not a good set.←Hi Gordon,If I can take a close up of the button and pin on the case you will be able to see that it isn't good either. I will try to get a good close up pic.Best, Sal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal Williams Posted July 25, 2005 Author Share Posted July 25, 2005 Well sorry to say I got this set from a member here and there has been NO return emaiils or pms from him in the last 3 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 Hi Sal, please let the members know who the seller was. Thanks, Rick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus H Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 (edited) Sal, I'm not to happy with the look of this box, can you show me the catch please.KrMarcus Edited July 31, 2005 by Marcus H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus H Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 I replied yesterday Sal, but as the forum went down all my posts have gone missing along with all the others whom posted.I'm not overly keen on the outer covering on this example, the inside looks fair, but I'd heed caution on this one and I'm more than dubious.I need a frontal catch pic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal Williams Posted July 31, 2005 Author Share Posted July 31, 2005 Ok marcus here you go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Marcus H Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 Well Sal, to be honest this catch dosen't conform to the usual fake catch, it's a broad stem and has a rounded head..which to all intents and purpose's is a very good sign.If by chance this is a good case, thats a different outer covering you have there to several known and what I own examples !!It's a shame about the scuffing, it almost looks intentionaly done ? Who knows though ?Have you tried with care, to lift up the base, just the upper portion of the insert.....I wonder if this could be a KB box, it can't be a D&B they use an inset for other boxes as a stand insert in these boxes.KrMarcus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal Williams Posted August 1, 2005 Author Share Posted August 1, 2005 (edited) Well Sal, to be honest this catch dosen't conform to the usual fake catch, it's a broad stem and has a rounded head..which to all intents and purpose's is a very good sign.If by chance this is a good case, thats a different outer covering you have there to several known and what I own examples !!It's a shame about the scuffing, it almost looks intentionaly done ? Who knows though ?Have you tried with care, to lift up the base, just the upper portion of the insert.....I wonder if this could be a KB box, it can't be a D&B they use an inset for other boxes as a stand insert in these boxes.KrMarcus←Glued down super tight, not a hint of lifting even with a pretty hard pull. The scuffing looks ENTIRELY purpously done in person! Edited August 1, 2005 by Sal Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus H Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 (edited) You can do better for your money Sal, it's an odd one this box.....I've been looking and looking at this darn thing, I can't honestly say with conviction either way on it. Stick with your Spanish Crosses mate.Are your intentions to return it ?Send Sam my love, and I'm already saving up for next year it's going to be a DK next year I think ! In silver touch wood and cross fingers and legs.KrMarcus Edited August 1, 2005 by Marcus H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike K Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 Hi Sal,The badge and mini have already been covered but the case is a curiosity. I agree that the lower insert looks strange. What has not been mentioned is the upper insert. I have a repro case at home that has a stiff foam "padding" behind the silk. If you use you fingernail to scratch the foam, it WILL NOT spreing back into place. On genuine cases, the padding for the upper insert is usually made of a soft "spongy" material (eg old cotton wadding) that will spring back. I don't like the looks of the effects of scratching the upper insert on this case from your image.RegardsMike K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal Williams Posted August 9, 2005 Author Share Posted August 9, 2005 Hi Mike, it does spring back, and there is s section of the cloth thats torn and you can see a white cottony material behind it. The scratches all over the case look purposly done unless someone cleaned it with some horribly abrasive sponge or something. looks more like it was done with fine grit sandpaper.Thanks, Sal(and thanks for your opinion on the unknown pilots bage too ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal Williams Posted August 9, 2005 Author Share Posted August 9, 2005 Hi Sal, please let the members know who the seller was. Thanks, Rick←Ok Rick,The seller was Wayne Sinnott. Chairman wanted to give him time to contact me and take the item back.Best, Sal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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