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Order of Military Merit 2nd Class

The Order of Military Merit 2nd Class was issued in 3 classes.

1st Class ? was awarded 2,609 times

Silver, 5 torches

Silver, 6 torches

Tombac, 6 torches

2nd Class ? was awarded 24,141 times

Silver, 5 torches

Silver, 6 torches

Tombac, 6 torches

3rd Class ? was awarded 94,685 times

Silver, 5 torches

Silver, 6 torches

Tombac, 6 torches

Please show yours!

Order of Military Merit 2nd Class, 5 torches (silver)

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Order of Military Merit 3rd Class , 5 torches (silver)

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Dear Bryan,

many thanks for your posting :beer: .

I have no "Orders of Military Merit" in my collection - the prices in Vienna had been always too high :( .

A lot of foreigners received this order also.

Best regards :beer:

Christian

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You should look on eBay. Maybe the dealers in Vienna bought them on eBay as well. ;)

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Here's my 1st class.

I presume it's a tombac one because it's a 6 torches variation. Is that right?

Very nice trio by the way!

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I presume it's a tombac one because it's a 6 torches variation. Is that right?

Very nice trio by the way!

That's correct!

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That's correct!

This might seem like a daft question but what exactly is Tombac, I seem to remember it has somthing to do with the DDR :unsure:

Order of Victory

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Difference between 1st & 2nd class

Gentlemen,

maybe I am an idot, but what's the physical difference of the 1st & 2nd class - look the same - or is the 1st class a bit larger in diamenter :unsure: ?

Best regards :beer:

Christian

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The outside star of the order. It's obviously different to me.

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Difference between 1st & 2nd class

Gentlemen,

maybe I am an idot, but what's the physical difference of the 1st & 2nd class - look the same - or is the 1st class a bit larger in diamenter :unsure: ?

Best regards :beer:

Christian

1st class star has twice as many rays as 2nd class.

W

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This might seem like a daft question but what exactly is Tombac, I seem to remember it has somthing to do with the DDR :unsure:

It's a brass with more than 80% copper.

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Gentlemen,

many thanks for your expertise :beer: .

Yes, double number of rays :blush: .

But isn't the basic star a little bit larger in diamenter - or is it a optical illusion :unsure: ?

Best regards :beer:

Christian

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Christian,

diameters of the 2nd and 1st classes are the same, more rays create impression that 1st class is slightly larger.

William

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Here are my orders for military merit

1st clas with grand star

2nd clas with golden swords-6 torches

3 clas with silver swords - 5 in 6 torch variation

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Dear Valter,

many thanks for your scans :cheers: .

Do you know, why the quality of enamel of the white shield is always very poor :unsure: ?

Here in Vienna the prices for "Military Merit" are raising: A dealer has a 2cl for USD 500,- :speechless1: in his shop window ... (it had been a 1cl ...)

These orders are still missing in my small and humble collection, due to the fact, that "Military Merit" has been always overpriced in Vienna :( .

Best regards :beer:

Christian

Correction: Yesterday I had a closer look to that order at the dealer and it is a 1cl - but the price is still too high :( .

Edited by Christian Zulus

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The shield is plated a matt siver colour - it's metal, not enamelled.

Dear Leigh,

many thanks for your expertise :cheers: .

Well, paint doesn't last for ever ;) .

Best regards :beer:

Christian

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Gents--my first (very recent) foray into Yugoslav awards: a '5-torch' 3rd class star...

Gaffken

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500 $ for 2nd class is, by my experience and knowledge, way too much. just yesterday I saw on e-bay 1st class (5 torch variation) with one bid for 275$ and no reserve. 2nd clases are sold (I saw a few) for 100-150 $. I bought my set - 1st, 2nd and 3rd class - for 800 USD.

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Well - now I have a problem - :unsure: my second Yugoslavian award... Another Five Torch type in the case - but no ribbon.

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Detail of the reverse. The seller tried to jack the price up becasue he claimed that the badge is made of solid silver (!) I am going to assume that these are heavy plated and not solid? Dealers are funny - its like he was expecting me to melt it down for more 'value'...

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Results of the auction in Vienna

Gentlemen,

Rauch's auction in Vienna http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=19027 resulted in the following hammer prices (incl. all fees & taxes in EURO):

- 1cl (6 torches) - ? 348,-

- 2cl (5 torches, cased) - ? 120,-

- 2cl (5 torches) - ? 138,-

- 3cl (6 torches, cased) - ? 60,-

- 3cl (5 torches) - ? 72,-

Best regards :beer:

Christian

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Gentlemen,

back from Belgrade, where I found my grandfather's IIIcl. 5 torches order. It's cased and with document (1957), the box is in very poor condition, but it's still a nice set, and of course very significant for me. :beer:

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Regards,

Filip

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