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I haven´t seen an Edelweiß with thet needle. But it looks ok. I don´t know if they were woirn by the Alpenkorps, but it´s an original piece of the DÖAV

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3 hours ago, scottplen said:

 

here is one I found online ! Good original ?

 

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Scroll up. Looks like mine on the orange wool. Here is the back--same: 

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Edited by Fritz die Spinne

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On 22.10.2017 at 05:15, Fritz die Spinne said:

Probably the holding point for my small collection. A small grouping brought three more--all are 40mm across the longest point, but the small is 34mm. Shall I consider that WWII?  Regarding the DAOV, having read the thread often, I am happy to include these two with the collection.

Top row, the first two are steel. The rest are not magnetic, and appear to be Neusilber. 

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Hi Fritz!


You bought the lot on ebay ;) Nice one!!! The lowest is an original Alpenkorps Edelweiß insignia! I got the exact same model directly from the grand doughter of an former AK-Major!

I also like the one at the top right corner, because you can see that the "DÖAV" letters were filled with other materials. So thise one was reused as a headgear insignia. The one on the left upper corner I would consider as an original too, you can see this version quite often on original photos showing AK members.

 

Kind regards
Immanuel

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I think the problem with Family and Vet aquired pieces is that there were reunions up until the 1960s and the men had many post war years to replace lost, damaged or ugly pieces. I have 2 groupings with the edelweiss with a crown, which I think is now accepted as a postwar Leiberverien badge, but there wa a time I would have thought it was wartime.

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Hmm could be possible, but "my" Major died in 1943, so at least my Edelweiß is not pre 1945. Also why should the family changed the badge? They had one of the most impressive estates of their grandfather I've ever saw, alsmost complete to the gear.

 

Regards

Immanuel

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Just now, Alpenkorps1915 said:

Hmm could be possible, but "my" Major died in 1943, so at least my Edelweiß is not pre 1945. Also why should the family changed the badge? They had one of the most impressive estates of their grandfather I've ever saw, alsmost complete to the gear.

 

Regards

Immanuel

Hi,

Could very well be, I just mention it because the Leiberverein was very active between the wars and many veterans completed what they may have lost or binned just after the war. The popularity of Leib Regt Goodies for a single soldier can be seen in this auktion (Which I missed :-(   ), https://www.ebay.de/itm/Konvolut-versch-Abzeichen-des-Koenigl-Bayer-Infanterie-Leib-Regiment-ILR-/192334795880?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&nma=true&si=E85epdlv41MvkjXnAquob1gqkME%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

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Yes, but the EW I'm talking about is from a staff memeber of the Alpenkorps, so he never got in touch with the Leiberverein.

Regards
Immanuel

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Just got this--the mix of uniforms and missing shoulder boards and Reichskokarden lead me to think the men are friends post war in a local Verein. There are two cap badges. One appears to be an Edelweiss, perhaps with some movement to the man's head blurring it? The other a more rectangular badge could be the Austrian 21 Korps. 

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Not common .nothing is normal , Bavarian Light Cavalry tunics but without collar borte . and modified cuffs . the piping appears white that is regiment 7 or 8 . the men wearing the bluse may belongs to the same unit . both the 7th and the 8th fought dismounted from 1916 to the end .

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Fritz, your photo shows mostlikely men from the Freikorps time. The Edelweiß was used by some Freikorps too. I highly doubt that the young fellow wearing it, ever saw battle in Tyrol in 1915.

 

Greetings

Immanuel

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16 hours ago, Alpenkorps1915 said:

Fritz, your photo shows mostlikely men from the Freikorps time. The Edelweiß was used by some Freikorps too. I highly doubt that the young fellow wearing it, ever saw battle in Tyrol in 1915.

 

Greetings

Immanuel

Edelweiss could be private purchased too, that could be the case.

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On 17.1.2017 at 22:09, KMB said:

A good close up of the M1914 Bergmütze with Edelweiß from eBay. 

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Thanks to Fritz I have one of these as well now... what is very apparent is that these have exactly the petals of the German Austrian Alpenverein one. I am thinking the same factory, and on some they put the 6 pollen thingies with the initials for the Alpenverein on and on some they had the 6 pollen thingies without the initials... maybe made specially so for the Alpenkorps?

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On 11/26/2017 at 06:05, Chris Boonzaier said:

Thanks to Fritz I have one of these as well now... what is very apparent is that these have exactly the petals of the German Austrian Alpenverein one. I am thinking the same factory, and on some they put the 6 pollen thingies with the initials for the Alpenverein on and on some they had the 6 pollen thingies without the initials... maybe made specially so for the Alpenkorps?

:) Good it has arrived. I am glad to see it get a good home, even though it was hard to separate the 'twins.'

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