Kev in Deva Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 Hallo Gents I think its safe to say steer well clear of this beauty:http://cgi.ebay.com/1813-Kulm-Iron-cross-f...1QQcmdZViewItem1813 Kulm Iron cross first class(I think there was only one class so why he reffer's to it as a first class therefore implying there was more than one class is beyond me ) And you got to love the silver paint smears on the rear HIS DESCRIPTION: This is the ultra rare Kulm cross, issued by the Prussian Kingdome to Russian troops during the 1813 campaigns. The cross is manufactured from hammered iron and painted with a silvery boarder. Due to the simple manufacturing techniques, this cross is sold as a representative piece without provenance, however it is quite nice. HIS START PRICE: Starting bid: US $400.00 Kevin in Deva Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naxos Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 You want Provenance?here is a picture of the original owner: Hardy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence Strong Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 At least he says it's "representative"! However his starting bid must have come to him in a revelation after smoking something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naxos Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 Hallo Gents (I think there was only one class so why he reffer's to it as a first class therefore implying there was more than one class is beyond me ) And you got to love the silver paint smears on the rear Kevin in Deva Kevin, I did a Google search on the Kulmer Kreuz and found this interesting article apparently there was a first class .The article is in German: http://www.historischer-service.de/preusse...n/kulmkz01.htmlHardy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted June 23, 2007 Share Posted June 23, 2007 Would anyone really expect a legitimate specimen of this incredibly rare item to appear on eBay?? Seems more the sort of thing a serious, specialist auction house would deal in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregM Posted June 23, 2007 Share Posted June 23, 2007 Why would anyone think that the Kulm cross would be good when hisother 1813s are pure crap. I don't have any knowledge of pole topsbut I have my doubts about them as well. There have been WAY toomany of them on ebay lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe campbell Posted June 23, 2007 Share Posted June 23, 2007 (edited) it is my understanding that there was, in fact,a distinction between the Kulm kreuz an officer would wearand that of an EM, and that there were those who had them"made up" (jeweler's copy?) because of the relativelypoor quality of the "issue piece".i will review what info i have and expand as time permits.joe Edited June 23, 2007 by joe campbell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregM Posted June 23, 2007 Share Posted June 23, 2007 (edited) One of our members here has a very nice jeweller made silver Kulm cross.Maybe he could be post a picture or two. Edited June 23, 2007 by gregM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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