Kev in Deva Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 Hallo Gents, upon my recent return visit to Kempten in the Allg?u region, I revisited a place I stumbled across near to the house where I was living, I lived for 4 years on the outskirts of Kempten, on Adelharzer Weg, while wandering in the woods to the rear of the house I discovered this commemorative memorial stone.The inscription reads:"GEDENKSTEIN FUR DEM IM WELTKREIGE GEFALLENEN HELDEN MAX HERGENRODER FORSTASSISTENT IN KEMPTEN + 26.SEPT.1914.WYTSCHAEDE."Kevin in Deva Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev in Deva Posted October 2, 2007 Author Share Posted October 2, 2007 (edited) My buddy Alec, brought me around some of the small Kempten back streets, in Haubenschloss, to show me a plaque he had spotted upon the wall of a house near Haubenschloss. Apparantly post WW1, the street used to be called Wytschaetestrasse!!"Wytschaetestrasse 2,In der Allerheiligennacht 1914 st?rmen die Allg?uer Kriegsfreiwilligen dreimal Wytschaete in Flandern."Does anybody have any information of the particular Bavarian Units that took part in the campaign in far off Flanders?Kevin in Deva. Edited October 2, 2007 by Kev in Deva Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 I would go with 6th Bavarian Reserve Division... Old 'Itlers division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 16th, 17th, 20th, and 21st Bavarian Reserve Regiments. plus other odds and sods.Now which regt.... that would be more difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev in Deva Posted October 2, 2007 Author Share Posted October 2, 2007 (edited) Another military related plaque on the wall of a building that is now the Alpine Museum,near the Residensehoff, in Kempten, which was formely the Calvary quarters,with stables for the horses beneath.Kevin in Deva. Edited October 2, 2007 by Kev in Deva Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev in Deva Posted October 3, 2007 Author Share Posted October 3, 2007 To the rear of Haubenschloss, can be found hidden away in the trees, the WW1 & WW2 Denkmal:Close-up of the lower section:DEM K. B. 1. JAGER BATTALION KONIG 1815 -1919.Kevin in Deva. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev in Deva Posted October 3, 2007 Author Share Posted October 3, 2007 This one nearby is newer and I believe for Sailors.Kevin in Deva. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev in Deva Posted October 3, 2007 Author Share Posted October 3, 2007 Inscription:and nearby this small wooden monument to the Gebergsj?ger of WW2:Kevin in Deva. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev in Deva Posted October 3, 2007 Author Share Posted October 3, 2007 Close up of carved inscription.Kevin in Deva. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rast Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 6th Bavarian Reserve-Division would be a good guess, only: they were not in Flanders in September 1914. The division arrived there by the end of October. I've only some few copies of the "Allg?uer Kriegschronik", a weekly periodical published in Kempten. It has about three to five pages per week filled with "our heros" (the KIAs), approx. 10 per page. Unfortunately, that Max Hergenr?der is not among those I have. It would, however, seem that men from the Kempten region did not only serve in Bavarian regiments (3., 20., 12., Res 12., 3. Ldw, 16. Res, 18. Res, etc.) but also in W?rttemberg units, e.g.: 120, 124, 127, Res 120. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev in Deva Posted October 3, 2007 Author Share Posted October 3, 2007 Hallo Rast many thanks for the additional info.Two other stone tablets with military units inscribed are mounted on the walls of the Residenze, near the Kaufhoff Store.Please see: http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=12280Kevin in Deva. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rast Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 I've looked into the books: There were no German (including Bavarian) troops near Wyschaete by the end of September 1914. Thus, if the inscription is to be correct, the man should have been a POW, dying in an Entente hospital or camp.Bavarian troops were in vicinity Wyschaete by the end of October 1914, II. b.AK and the 6. b.RD, the latter storming Wyschaete on 1st/2nd November several times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev in Deva Posted October 3, 2007 Author Share Posted October 3, 2007 I've looked into the books: There were no German (including Bavarian) troops near Wyschaete by the end of September 1914. Thus, if the inscription is to be correct, the man should have been a POW, dying in an Entente hospital or camp.Bavarian troops were in vicinity Wyschaete by the end of October 1914, II. b.AK and the 6. b.RD, the latter storming Wyschaete on 1st/2nd November several times.Hallo rast On the plaque with the name Wyschaetestrasse 2, does Allerheiligennacht 1914 reffer to the day of what we call "All Souls Night" (Commemoration for the Dead) ???Please excuse my ignorance of traditional religious holy days in Germany.Kevin in Deva. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rast Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 Allerheiligen = All Saints = 1st of NovemberAllerseelen = All Souls = 2nd of November,both catholic holy days, thus very important for Bavarians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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