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15 hours ago, depaor01 said:

Hi all,

 

I was directed to this forum from another WWI forum and hope you can help. I have no Austro Hungarian medals in my collection and was delighted to pick this up recently. It's amazing how accurate a picture of the original recipient you can get from the different awards. As best I can fathom out, this is the man's story reading the medals left to right:

 

Decorated for Bravery: Franz Josef Medal in Silver

Was in a combatant unit for at least 12 weeks: Karl Truppenkreuz

Was wounded five times : Austro-Hungarian Wound Medal with five stripes on ribbon

War Commemorative Medal (Pro Deo et Patria)

Tirol Defence Medal: Possibly member of a mountain troop?

Commemorative medal of the World War

Bulgarian European War Commemorative Medal: Served in Bulgarian forces(?)

 

 

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If any experts out there could confirm that my assumptions above are correct, and also someone might have an idea about the unusual ribbon arrangement. Being Austrian shouldn't they be triangular?

 

Any help much appreciated.

 

Dave

Can we see the back side of this bar please.

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Yes. Can we see the back? The ribbons are sort of folded in a Southern German style, but in a rather messy way and seem rather loose. Maybe some red flags here.

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No problem. Not at my pc at the moment but rear has the usual felt backing and pin arrangement.

Leave it with me for a mo.

Dave

 

 

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Here's the back. Best I can do with temporarily limited resources! My recall is faulty. Obviously not felt backing.

 

Dave

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This group looks rather original.

The ribbon for the Karl Truppenkreuz seems to have been neglected though. The visible bit has been clumsily mounted.

As you said, one would expect to find these medals mounted with their original large ribbons in the Austrian fashion (triangle).

But  would the owner have decided to wear them in the German way after the "Anschluss" of 1938...?    

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That's an interesting theory. Thanks for the information and opinions all.

Dave

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Hi,

another Austrian-German medal bar, not direct in the Austrian fashion:

Oesterreich Schlesien.jpg

Uwe

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On 02/05/2016 at 10:36, bolewts58 said:

Yes. Can we see the back? The ribbons are sort of folded in a Southern German style, but in a rather messy way and seem rather loose. Maybe some red flags here.

It seems to have been fitted with the mini Ribbon..

BR

Lambert

Finally I came back ..
After some time off-line features a Weimar Ordensspange Wurtemberg

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  1. Militärverdienstmedaille silver
  2. Dienstauszeichnung 3.Klasse 1913 für 9 Jahre
  3. Kyffhäuser 1914/18

Lambert

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Very nice group Lambert,

Regarding miniature ribbons used with full size medals, I also have a couple.

So I suppose it as up to the wearer to decide what would look the best on parade...(?!?)

As I said once, everything seemed possible during the Weimar era.

Jean-Sam.

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11 minutes ago, j-sk said:

Very nice group Lambert,

Regarding miniature ribbons used with full size medals, I also have a couple.

So I suppose it as up to the wearer to decide what would look the best on parade...(?!?)

As I said once, everything seemed possible during the Weimar era.

Jean-Sam.

WeimarInfRgt66Front.jpg

WeimarInfRgt66Back.jpg

... And another full size group with mini ribbons.

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WeimarJägerZuPferde13Back (3).jpg

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hello Jean

Wonderful ! see .. I have a mini Kyffhäuser , see compared to the full size medal.

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Best

Lambert

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On ‎13‎.‎06‎.‎2016 at 21:47, lambert said:

hello Jean

Wonderful ! see .. I have a mini Kyffhäuser , see compared to the full size medal.

WP_20160613_004.jpg

Best

Lambert

Very nice lot, Lambert. 

Some minis also sport the combattants' crossed swords (see below).

Note also that there are two different coinages:

one has Hindenburg's citation (reverse) with "stolz" (proud), the other one with "froh" (happy).

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Nice wurttemberg Gold bravery medal on nice Weimar era bar guess I date this bar to about 1929 to 1933 

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