avsaribar Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 Hello , 8 stars from my collection.A BB.CO with the Gallipoli Badge on the ribbon.A BB.CO , with the custom made silver marked Crescent and Star on the ribbon.Also An Austrian Made "*" 81 mm diameter , the huge one !And the others ...Regards,Avsar Ibar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulsterman Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 (edited) Nice, very,very nice. The Austrian 81mm piece-was that a senior officer/government officials award?Do you have any attributed pieces?What is the campaign bar?Also, top left star...is that a wartime Ottoman issued piece? Edited March 21, 2008 by Ulsterman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avsaribar Posted March 21, 2008 Author Share Posted March 21, 2008 Nice, very,very nice. The Austrian 81mm piece-was that a senior officer/government officials award?Do you have any attributed pieces?What is the campaign bar?Also, top left star...is that a wartime Ottoman issued piece?Dear Ulsterman , Thank you. As there is not to much information about the 81 mm Oversized Stars , but what we know is ; they were only used by the high degree officers who carried flags in the war. We call them "Sancaktar" , very , very low quantity made.The campaign bar is " 1915 Gallipoli War Badge" , It is written in Ottoman Language "Canakkale".Yeah , you are right the one on the top left is Ottoman Issued piece.Regards,Avsar IbarPS: Sorry for my poor English but I dont understand exactly what you mean by ;"Do you have any attributed pieces?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulsterman Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 Attributed" means medals you KNOW were THE awards given to a specific person on a specific date: e.g. "Star awarded to Sergeant Iskar on August 12, 1917." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avsaribar Posted March 21, 2008 Author Share Posted March 21, 2008 Attributed" means medals you KNOW were THE awards given to a specific person on a specific date: e.g. "Star awarded to Sergeant Iskar on August 12, 1917."Ok , thanks I understood.I have many such a kind of pieces , 1st , 2nd , 3th , 4th 5th classes of all Medjidie Orders with their own Berats , Liyakats , Independence War Medals with own documents , If you ask about Austria , I have a Lifesaving Medal given to one of the Austrian Consulate's in Istanbul in 1903by II.nd Abdulhamid.Below you can see it's picture;Regards,Avsar Ibar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Gordon Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 Avsar,Very nice selection of stars. Could you possible post a picture of the back of the 81 mm diameter piece?ThanksRich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avsaribar Posted March 21, 2008 Author Share Posted March 21, 2008 Avsar,Very nice selection of stars. Could you possible post a picture of the back of the 81 mm diameter piece?ThanksRichDear Rich , Thank you very much , as soon as I will shoot it , I will post the reverse picture.Regards,Avsar Ibar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulsterman Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 very nice! I love the life saving medal.1. Can you read the old Ottoman script?2. Do you have any stars that came with documents? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambolini Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 (edited) Hi,Fantastic collection,Turkish Orders are my favorite after Imperial German.Kind regards,Sam K.P.S. Do you have any medal bars you could post photos of? Edited March 21, 2008 by sambolini Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 The Great Mystery--for us-- is WHO "B.B. & Co." was-- and WHERE they made those stars.I have always thought since 90 percent of the German recipients of the War Medal got a B.B. & Co star and yet the pin is like nothing German, it must have been a company in Constantinople making these during the war.Many of us have been hunting for years to find some sort of advertisement for them during the war, or to find a CLEAR photograph taken during the war with one.So many of the German-made stars are from the prosperous 1920s or uniform-crazy 1930s that it is impossible to guess who made different types. The only German-made variety we can identify comes from the January 1939 Steinhauer & L?ck catalog.This particular star was awarded by a Turkish Lieutenant Colonel to a German hospital orderly in Nablus in 1917. It is only alloy metal, but excellent dark red enamel. I think it might be an Arabic mark on the cylinder holding the pin, but it is illegible:Have you ever seen this type as Turkish-made? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruby Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 (edited) Mr.Avsar ,Great Collection !!! , As I can understand you have a shop , are you selling those items ?I am interested to buy,ThanksRuby Edited March 21, 2008 by Ruby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avsaribar Posted March 21, 2008 Author Share Posted March 21, 2008 Mr.Avsar ,Great Collection !!! , As I can understand you have a shop , are you selling those items ?I am interested to buy,ThanksRubyDear Ruby,Thank you very much for your interest , yes I have a Jewellery Medals and Orders shop in Istanbul - GrandBazaar.I am also a collector of Ottoman Orders and Medals.If you interest with Ottoman orders and medalsI have many for sale , please contact me from;info@avsaribar.com Sincere RegardsAvsar Ibar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulsterman Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 (edited) ...and quite a web site it is too!I am impressed. May we have a quick look at the Iron cross, Hindenburg cross, Sanyai medal with bar trio ?Do you know who had that bar (Kod: 18) ?It is very interesting. It appears to be a Turkish made bar, but the Hindenburg cross is most unusual.Do you know my cyberfriend Erureten Metin? Edited March 21, 2008 by Ulsterman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avsaribar Posted March 21, 2008 Author Share Posted March 21, 2008 (edited) Dear Ulsterman , Unfortunately , I can not to read all , only some scripts.Yes I have a few other Gallipoli Stars with own documents , I will post their pictures tomorrow. ( Commander in Chief Of Ottoman Empire Enver Pasha Signed)Dear Sambolini , Thanks for your nice words , I have some Ottoman GermanBars , I will post their pictures too , Till today I sold many ...I wish I could keep their pictures...And Dear Rick , Many Years we are also can not prove that BB.CO is in Germany.But I bealive it BB.CO is a German Company also locatedin Germany , if you ask me why , What I can say is , As we know War medal created in 1915 and Mustafa KemalAtaturk makes the Alphabet reform at The 1 November 1928Till 1928 , all the medals , orders and badges which MADE in Turkey has the Ottoman script on them. (I mean if they have any...) (For example , there are many examples of the Medjidie Orderswhich doesnt have any kind of Mint Mark but even has a smallstet mark on their reverse.)Anyway what I observed and bealive is , only the Ottoman Orders and medals which made in foreign countries such as Halley and La Foyalle in Paris , has the Latin Scripts on them.BB.CO is also made in Germany , many people says in Berlin...It could be Private Company which was just doing for our GovermentWar Medals .The Star which you post the pictures is also Foreign made one , that is on it is definetely NOT an Arabic mark.1915 and those years we were in a very hard conditions , I can say you that the only Turkish made Stars are theones which was plain lacquared ones.Sincere Regards,Avsar Ibar Edited March 21, 2008 by avsaribar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avsaribar Posted March 22, 2008 Author Share Posted March 22, 2008 (edited) Hello , Below I am pasting you a picture of a Gallipoli Star with it's own document , given to a Lieutenant Sevket Efendi , (Mulazim-i Sani Sevket Efendi) at 1917.He was served in the Iraq Frontline , it is also written on the document.As you know at the 7 November 1914 , British Forces came to Iraq and at1915 Turkish army make a battle with the British army whose commanderwas Genaral Townshend. Edited March 22, 2008 by avsaribar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avsaribar Posted March 22, 2008 Author Share Posted March 22, 2008 (edited) And a very RARE , just once I have it , and I sold it A Gallipoli Star with the Middle Size , Please compare it's size with the BB.CO near it. Edited March 22, 2008 by avsaribar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Stahlhut Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Simply amazing! Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge and your examples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulsterman Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 (edited) WOW!!!!! Edited June 2, 2008 by Ulsterman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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