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EK2 Document. Award earned in Finland during the fighting agains reds.

It looks like the signature is v.d.Goltz himself

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And that is rare piece of paper. Award doc. for Finnish Cross of Liberty 3rd class w/swords.

Document has two pages - another in German (!) and another in Finnish.

This is the German page

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Commemorative medal of Liberation war - document for Germans. (Swedish has as well similar in Swedish) - even the regular document is also in Swedish and of course Finnish.

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And this I guess is "receipt" he got when the medal was posted to him later.

Edited by Jani Tiainen

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I also have i other certificates but posted only the ones strongly related to Finland.

I hope you enjoy! Many of these I have only seen the ones I just showed.

Jani

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:cheers: Jani!

Oppenheimer was actually from Baden (Mannheim), Foot Artillery Regiment 14 was a Baden/Hohenzollern unit.

The telegram informs him that he has been commissioned as a Reserve 2nd Lieutenant of Cavalry with seniority of 22 March 1918.

I've never seen a document like the 1923 one sending him the campaign medal through his local Reichsheer office.

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Second page of Soldbuch

(Unable to read ;)

His other award certificates I have:

Badens Milit?rischen Karl-Friedrich silver merit medal

Deutsche Feld-Ehrenzeichen

Hindenburg Cross

Hungarian Kriegerinnerungsmedaille

?sterrreichche Kriegerinnerungsmedaille

I need to scan the Ordens page from Soldbuch as well because it looks like there is something more...

and Soldbuch tells as Rick said he is from Baden and stamp is exactly that regiment :)

Jani

Edited by Jani Tiainen

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:Cat-Scratch: Weird!!!! He was a One Year Volunteer in BAVARIAN ChevLeg Rgt 6 1910-11 AND he got the Bavarian Luitpold Jubilee Medal 1911 version, which per the rules was generally NOT given to first-term, non-commisioned personnel as he then was! :speechless1:

If I saw his medal bar WITHOUT this paperwork I'd be thinking no no no.... :speechless1:

:cheeky:

:cheers:

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The German expedition to Finland landed in Hanko, Finland, on April 3. 1918.

Commander: Generalmajor Graf R?diger von der Goltz is in the picture on your left. I have several pictures of German troops in Finland, taken by finnish photographers. I would like to get in touch with person who might have pictures of german troops in Finland, taken by their own photographer.

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Hi Pete..

I have the iron cross doc to Max Bayer... you must have something n him ;-)

Hello, is the document still on gmic or has it been removed?

Regards

Detlef

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Hi,

I am not sure if it is still here on the site, but i no longer own it... it has gone "home"

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Hello!

Does anyone of you have any information about a Jäger Karl Wüllner who served in Finland during the liberty war?

I have medalgroup with documents and would like to find out more about him. According to one of the papers he served in
"Radf. Komp. 54" and another documents say "Jäger d. 3. Garde. Kav. Brig."

Karl was Born in Oberbeck 17/2 1897. b

 

 

 

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I can only find out the he was attached to the Detachment Brandenstein

Com of the Detachment was Oberst von Brandenstein from 3rd Garde Kav Brig

part of the detch was the 3rd Radfahrer Batallion with the Com Hauptmann von Wilamowitz-Moellendorff

And your Karl Wüllner was in 54 Radfaher Kompanie which was part of the above Battl , Commander Leutnant Misgeld 

Christer 

 

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1 hour ago, christerd said:

I can only find out the he was attached to the Detachment Brandenstein

Com of the Detachment was Oberst von Brandenstein from 3rd Garde Kav Brig

part of the detch was the 3rd Radfahrer Batallion with the Com Hauptmann von Wilamowitz-Moellendorff

And your Karl Wüllner was in 54 Radfaher Kompanie which was part of the above Battl , Commander Leutnant Misgeld 

Christer 

 


It was the 5th Radfahrer Batallion:

Radfahrer-Bataillon Nr. 5
Kdr.: Hptm.d.R. Hugo v. Wilamowitz-Moellendorff
Adj.: Kgl. bayer. Lt.d.R. Heinrich Weinstock

It was a combined unit, with Radfahrer elements from Jäger-Bataillon Nr. 14, Jäger-Bataillon Nr. 6 and Radfahr-Kompanie Nr. 54, along with the Bayerische Kraftwagen-Maschinengewehr-Kompanie.

Joseph Misgeld, * 9.12.1895 in Ringenberg, was commissioned a Leutnant in Jäger-Bataillon Nr. 14 on 10.5.1915.

Oberst von Brandenstein was Otto Hans Karl August Freiherr von Brandenstein, * 21.10.1865 in Hohenstein, † 8.5.1945 in Grambow bei Goldberg (von den Sowjeten erschossen).

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Thank you for this information.

I did not know that the germans sent bicycle infantry to fight in Finland.

But on the other hand I have not researched so much about the germans in Finland. But it´s a nice medalgroup.

 

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Posted (edited)

Hi again !

For my photo collection i was looking for a guy with a finnish award. (no so easy to find)

After a longer look-around i had the luck to find the following guy:

On his bar:

-EK2, Hamburger Hanseatenkreuz, Bremer Hanseatenkreuz, KuK MVK3 with war decoration and on the last pos.

a finnish cross of liberty (???).

Now my questions:

Which grade do we have here?

Is it possible, to ID that guy (Hauptmann - captain) - on the back we have a date and his signature. ("Gutes tuen das ist mein Wille" - sounds like Johanniter)

Is he also a Johanniter knight?

Thanks.

 

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zähringer3.tif

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Hi , 

 

Very interesting pic ! 

There is indeed a Finnsh Liberty Cross 4th class on the ribbon bar , and if I see right the photo is taken in 1921

I looked through the ranklist of Deutches Reichheer 1924 and there is not many Hauptmann or Majors with the combo HH + BH  and wound Badge is silver 

I found maybe 4 or 5 candidates but none matched the rest of the awards.

That is a Reichsheer uniform right ?   

Search goes on 

 

Christer

 

 

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