Eric Stahlhut Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 Please forgive the pic quality--am trying to figure out how to resize. Anyways! Here is a neat one: this one has seen some use.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Stahlhut Posted May 15, 2008 Author Share Posted May 15, 2008 What?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Stahlhut Posted May 15, 2008 Author Share Posted May 15, 2008 (edited) incused 800. looks as if there may be a moon and crown in there as well Edited May 15, 2008 by Eric Stahlhut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Stahlhut Posted May 15, 2008 Author Share Posted May 15, 2008 (edited) the propeller-shaped clasp is a single piece of silver that rotates clockwise and unsprings from the "catch" Edited May 15, 2008 by Eric Stahlhut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Stahlhut Posted May 15, 2008 Author Share Posted May 15, 2008 the catch is marked geschutzt and perhaps some smaller hallmarks below Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Stahlhut Posted May 15, 2008 Author Share Posted May 15, 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Stahlhut Posted May 15, 2008 Author Share Posted May 15, 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Stahlhut Posted May 15, 2008 Author Share Posted May 15, 2008 (edited) and there you go. have at it! Edited May 15, 2008 by Eric Stahlhut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Y Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 Verrry interesting. You've always been good at finding oddballs. Great to have you aboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Stahlhut Posted May 15, 2008 Author Share Posted May 15, 2008 Thanks bro! 1st piece I've seen in a few years that I didn't already have or have seen. Definitely belongs in the variant category, no?I'm interested to see what people will say about it. As soon as I can figure out how to resize pics to 65K I should be able to edit and provide better pics os the solder on the catch, etc. but it looks pretty darn period to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike K Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 I spoke to the "US only" seller re this one, he said I could bid but I was auto-blocked anyway. Grrrrrrr.....Eric, looks like I missed out on a very special cross. I like it.Where have you been for the last few years??!!RegardsMike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe campbell Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 i'll take mike one step farther and sayi LOVE it.yes: crown/moon/800.quick button hole on lapel attachment?presewn uniform hole?that's a gem!!joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buellmeister Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 (edited) Eric, That piece is the quintessential reason behind the hunt for the Imperial's for me. You'll never know what kind of variant you'll stumble upon. Well Done!Regards,Joel Edited May 15, 2008 by buellmeister Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dond Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 This should be of interest to both parties: http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=19685 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian J Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 (edited) Those were some crappy auction-pictures. Proves you could still make some finds. Congratulations to you. Edited May 15, 2008 by RaZpuTiN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 That is a VERY weird attachment system! Presumably the "propellor blades" were inserted into double wide clothing loops, and then the cross itself was slid into the center and turnedBUT if anything bumped the cross and it rotated... it would fall off all by itself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Stahlhut Posted May 15, 2008 Author Share Posted May 15, 2008 That is a VERY weird attachment system! Presumably the "propellor blades" were inserted into double wide clothing loops, and then the cross itself was slid into the center and turnedBUT if anything bumped the cross and it rotated... it would fall off all by itself!One would think so, but the "propeller blade" has quite a bit of tension when on the cross and it DOES take some effort to detach it. Very firm, but yeah--if this cross got snagged on something you could lose the cross--same thing goes for a regular pinback tho.The icing on the cake was to find the patent mark on the catch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kay bunnecke Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 (edited) if there are better pictures of the crown ,,and W,,, and 1914.we can find the maker ,,,,or compaire it to a ek thats simularbefore that there's no reason to have a party,,,,before that its a fantasy ek.wy are people alway so quick in jelling ,,its a good one .?????first reseach the item closely by good pictures fore onei dont wanne breack the possitive input off jou all ,,i like to be possitive to .but,, the front pictures ,,, i do not deare to make enny judgement at all...OR IS THERE ENNYBODY WHO KNOWS ALWREDDY WITCH MAKER IT IS .please tell me thenno offence please but,,in these day's jou have to be carefull before jou say its a good onei know aim new here ,,but i certanly know 1914 ek's wel....and never scared to have an uppiniun....and i lurnd to be verry carefullhope jou dont take it to badly ,,,my comment is ment welregards kay Edited May 17, 2008 by kay bunnecke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe campbell Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 but that's the beauty of many imperial awards....the "limit" on variations was a jeweler'simagination and the ingenuity in joiningthem with a uniform.i have seen a lot of variations.the more i see, the more o know thereare even more out there.joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregM Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 WOW, great piece Eric.That is why I love Imperial EKs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccj Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 VERY UNUSUALHas anyone ever seen a hole (in a tunic of course) to support such an arrangement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Stahlhut Posted May 26, 2008 Author Share Posted May 26, 2008 exactly, charles!here is a better view of the core: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 VERY UNUSUALHas anyone ever seen a hole (in a tunic of course) to support such an arrangement? Given the hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of EK ones we see on the forums.... say this piece is one in a thousand? One in 10 000?Given the tiny handful of tunics we see....I would say chances of finding a tunic with the hole are zero, unless you found the tunic and cross together when it came out of the woodwork.bestChris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccj Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 Given the hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of EK ones we see on the forums.... say this piece is one in a thousand? One in 10 000?Given the tiny handful of tunics we see....I would say chances of finding a tunic with the hole are zero, unless you found the tunic and cross together when it came out of the woodwork.bestChrisI can't say its not real and I not suggesting such. It just seems with an attachment like this one another purpose other than a tunic may have been the intension. It could be for a tunic, it could be for a metal plate, it could have been for ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Stahlhut Posted July 11, 2016 Author Share Posted July 11, 2016 today has been a good day! am pleased to share this new cross-- it's a very welcome addition to my collection--- especially since it is directly related to one of the rarest iron crosses that i currently own. the only other example of the "propeller" version i have ever noticed was sold years ago at a notable and highly regarded german auction house for well over 1000 euro (hammer price) if my memory serves correctly here it is with the cross that started this particular thread: has anyone figured out the maker of these crosses yet? the crown holds the key to the answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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