Stogieman Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 Well, I was at a graduation and missed the end of this auction. 187- Euro and I think it was a STEAL! Hopefully, someone here won this little gem. I think I have seen less than a dozen real ones... ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian J Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 Well, I was at a graduation and missed the end of this auction. 187- Euro and I think it was a STEAL! Hopefully, someone here won this little gem. I think I have seen less than a dozen real ones... ever.Had it bookmarked but totally forgot about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian J Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 This creditrisk_tiger has been picking up some nice pieces for a time now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saschaw Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 (edited) It's the Prussian Krieger-Verdienstmedaille in an apparently private purchased case, most likely made in Austria - or am I wrong? Very nice though and the price was really okay... Edited May 19, 2008 by saschaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAO Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 Sascha you right and I was the loser with 186,-! ;o( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christerd Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 Hi , do anyone know how many was awarded of theese? Since they are so rare, for what was they awarded? I look around the internet , but couldn?t find much info about the Krieger Verdienst medallie Allt he Best Christer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saschaw Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 Not an too easy question you raise, but we discussed it recently on a German forum so it should work: the Prussian Krieger-Verdienstmedaille was instituted in 1835 to be awarded to foreign soldiers for merit in war and peace time. Most awards in that early days went to Russians. In 1873 the style changed to what we see above. It was awarded on the white and black ribbon for soldiers who did not yet participate a war and on the black and white ribbon for those who won it in war or participated an earlier "Feldzug" before!. The awards in WWI, mainly to Austrians but as well to Ottoman and Bulgarian soldiers were of course on the black and white ribbon. I attached a table with the WWI awards to Austrians compared to EK I and EK II. The EKs went only to Austrian officers, an Austrian NCO couldn't get one!If there are any more questions don't hesitate, I just wanted to get a short summary of the most important information. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted May 19, 2008 Author Share Posted May 19, 2008 Thanks Saschaw and thanks for correcting my language! Very scarce medal, I would have bid much higher for it but missed. I think the Austrian case very much is in sync with the medal. It was a wonderful little set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian J Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 Just to illustrate the thread a bit, here is an pic of an austrian wearing it complete with his biography.Copyright austro-hungarian-army.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 And a 1st Republic golfing knickers Gendarmerie Meister: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted May 19, 2008 Author Share Posted May 19, 2008 Now those are some very nice images of an exceptionally scarce medal actually being worn! WOW!! I have never seen an example mounted before. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christerd Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 Wow that?s quick ! Thank you all, this was really new info for me! No I am off for a cup of Tea Christer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saschaw Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 Now those are some very nice images of an exceptionally scarce medal actually being worn! WOW!! I have never seen an example mounted before. Thanks!With pleasure, but still much that's missing. Here's a W?rttemberger with a peace time award, a W?rttemberger who hasn't seen battle by now. I guess this is somewhat rarer than the (though nice) Austrians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saschaw Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 You want more? This is my second W?rttemberger with the medal. Again, it's a peace time award but he was in China before, so got the medal on the black and white ribbon. He did NOT get it for service in China! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted May 19, 2008 Author Share Posted May 19, 2008 Saschaw, you've been holding out on us.... you haven't posted that picture before??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komtur Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 As Sascha pointed out before, most of this medals went to Austria. So no wonder, if you find them, then often on that kind of ribbon (in that case worn out): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeikoGrusdat Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 one more..... sorry for poor quality, RAO can post better scans soon.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Card Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 In 1873 the style changed to what we see above.And before that (1835-1873), it looked like this. What we see below. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Card Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 Reverse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Card Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 It should be mentioned that this medal was awarded in both gold and silver grades. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josef Rietveld Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 I had it bookmarked aswell. It is definitely an austrian case. DKVM stand for Deutsche Krieger Verdienst Medaille, a bit funny, because as you all know the medal is prussian. So the abbreviation would be correct PKVM.josef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAO Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 Ok gentlemen, now still another small pictures contribution to this topic. Here a Russian coinage.Greeting Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAO Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 And the backside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAO Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 And a "Zinnabschlag" please translate the Word for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAO Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 And the backside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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