MG1918 Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 Does anyone know please what are the differences between an infantry used MG08/15 and the version placed inside the German tanks of WWI? I have seen an 08/15 with trunions but assume this is for use in pillboxes/fortifications. Belgians used captured WWI MG08/15 in their forts and 'added' pieces to them. I am assuming for German WWI tank use there may be no butt stock, or different ammunition feeds or indeed different water cooling system etc etc.VMT for any help.Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 That sounds like a question for Chris ..He's the only lucky Collector I know that owns an 08 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 Sorry, I have no idea... but if there is a variation... I want it!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 Does anyone know please what are the differences between an infantry used MG08/15 and the version placed inside the German tanks of WWI? I have seen an 08/15 with trunions but assume this is for use in pillboxes/fortifications. Belgians used captured WWI MG08/15 in their forts and 'added' pieces to them. I am assuming for German WWI tank use there may be no butt stock, or different ammunition feeds or indeed different water cooling system etc etc.VMT for any help.MarkHi Mark,Hope this helps a little,The MG's in the A7V were firmly fixed and not 08/15's but the heavier water-cooled MG 08. When aiming, the port cover and the whole gunners seat moved too which caused problems with blind corners.Each tank had a standard, lighter MG 08/15 for use if the crew had to bail out.Neben der Schnellfeuerkanone war der A7V mit 6 Maschinengewehren vom Typ MG 08 ausger?stet. Die MGs waren lafettiert, also fest eingebaut. Bei einer Bewegung des Maschinengewehres bewegte sich nicht nur dieses, sondern auch der daran fest angebrachte Sitz des Sch?tzen und die gepanzerte Walzenblende, die die "L?cke" verdeckte, in der das MG angebracht war.Nachteil dieser relativ "festen" Verbauung waren tote Winkel. Diese ergaben sich vor allem im Frontbereich zwischen den vorderen MGs an den Seiten und der Kanone und n?her als 4,5 Meter am Panzer. Bei weiter entfernten Zielen konnten die noch bestehenden Probleme an der Frontseite durch Zickzackfahren gel?st werden.Zus?tzlich befand sich in jedem A7V ein leichtes Maschinengewehr 08/15 mit 300 Schuss Munition, 6 Karabiner 98, Handgranaten und pro Besatzungsmitglied eine Pistole 08. Der Sinn, diese Waffen mitzuf?hren, war, dass die Besatzung bei Aufgabe des Panzers als Sto?trupp weiterk?mpfen konnte.Regards Eddie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MG1918 Posted October 20, 2011 Author Share Posted October 20, 2011 Eddie thanks - time has now passed since my first enquiry and I know now that that the MG08/15 for armour had an extra trunion stem to fit into a U bracket. So this must have been a factory made addition as it was fitted directly onto the stem of the water jacket. By the way I have some Tank Corps items you might be interested in? Best wishes, Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MG1918 Posted October 20, 2011 Author Share Posted October 20, 2011 Still on MG08/15. Does anyone have the definitive use/evidence of wooden machine guns? Clearly training aids and/or 'dummy' trench situated guns are uses but any other ideas. I have one original period wooden MG08/15 that is without doubt a trg wpn. It is too detailed for 'deception' purposes and those bits that move to practice drills move. It has very 'Germanic' markings but I would like to see some evidence of their use in German hands in WWI. Any assistance greatly appreciated. Here are some images: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MG1918 Posted October 20, 2011 Author Share Posted October 20, 2011 ok no images yet as the uploader says too big. I will try and use the photo managers available but this will take some time. Thanks for your patience. Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mervyn Mitton Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Mark - welcome back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MG1918 Posted October 20, 2011 Author Share Posted October 20, 2011 (edited) nice view of the Bergmann 15! Edited August 5, 2017 by MG1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MG1918 Posted October 20, 2011 Author Share Posted October 20, 2011 (edited) Company image? Edited August 5, 2017 by MG1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MG1918 Posted October 21, 2011 Author Share Posted October 21, 2011 (edited) 08/15 Edited August 5, 2017 by MG1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MG1918 Posted October 21, 2011 Author Share Posted October 21, 2011 (edited) Posts will show the different patterns of bipods, of which there are 3 main types. Edited August 5, 2017 by MG1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MG1918 Posted October 23, 2011 Author Share Posted October 23, 2011 (edited) A collector's dream :>) Edited August 5, 2017 by MG1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MG1918 Posted December 23, 2011 Author Share Posted December 23, 2011 (edited) Note pouches. Edited August 5, 2017 by MG1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MG1918 Posted February 7, 2012 Author Share Posted February 7, 2012 (edited) Ammo box view. Edited August 5, 2017 by MG1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MG1918 Posted February 7, 2012 Author Share Posted February 7, 2012 100 rd ammo belts for the MG08/15. Apparently there are 2 examples of manufacture - WWI and post WWI. Post WWI often have extensions sewn in - can anyone confirm? Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MG1918 Posted February 7, 2012 Author Share Posted February 7, 2012 (edited) Note super artillery lugers! Edited August 5, 2017 by MG1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MG1918 Posted May 19, 2012 Author Share Posted May 19, 2012 (edited) Inter-war 08/15 images Edited August 5, 2017 by MG1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 hmmmm... the military version of a blow up doll.... ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MG1918 Posted August 2, 2012 Author Share Posted August 2, 2012 (edited) Far more responsive and enjoyable than any doll I know Chris Mark Edited August 2, 2012 by Mark Finneran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 Know a lot of blow up dolls do you? ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MG1918 Posted February 9, 2013 Author Share Posted February 9, 2013 There is a lovely saying in the UK.... 'you have to kiss a lot of frogs to find a prince.....' Plus 'don't knock it until you try it....' Need I say more??!!! :>) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Nods as good as a wink to a blind man, say no more, say no more.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Hello Mark Contact the IWM (image) they have a cool example gun I mean kind of falls in with dummy noggin's note t'old coal bags Chris probably is long enough in years to remember them. Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Here is a serious looking bunch... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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